ISRAEL THREAD (Post new Israel threads = get banned)
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Oh right, they called you a nationalist so it's alright to call them terrorist sympathisers. Ironicaly this is what Israels kinda doing, sinking down to your enemies level. No matter what they say, how stubborn they are or what names they call you, don't think it's alright to do the same.
If you act as stupidly as the people you arguing against, it's just a pointless bicker. If you have integrity and use a high standard against people who think name calling is an argument, it means you aren't a stupid fanatic and are a normal, intelligent person.
I don't care, I just need to blow some steam, which I have been keeping inside for too long.
If this was a real debate regarding the issue, I wouldn't have said that, but it isn't so for now I'm just gonna blow some steam so that I won't do it when there's a real debate going on.
Man this fighting here is pointless..
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;22388812]Lovely there was no violence.
But this is still an aid ship. I don't understand what gives them the right to halt an aid ship. I can understand the boarding - it's to check for anything... harmful? I don't comprehend them controlling the ship completely though.[/QUOTE]
They have a blockade on Gaza...
Why is that so difficult for people to process?
I'm not saying it's right, but they're not going to let ships pass through. Period.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22388922]Hahaha I love how butthurt terrorist sympathizers are rating me boxes.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, I hope a Hamas rocket manages to hit you.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22389473]Seriously, I hope a Hamas rocket manages to hit you.[/QUOTE]
Not bloody likely :).
Hamas rockets are pointed over the illegal israel occupational wall.
This "illegal wall" has saved the lives of thousand Israeli lives by blocking off the suicide bomber's access to Israel.
Also, it's built on our land, we'll decide what is legal and what isn't.
Israel's formation overall is not legal, your in Palestine territory.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22389477]Not bloody likely :).[/QUOTE]
[B]Exactly.[/B]
It's not likely that those rockets will hit [i]anyone[/i], but you still use Hamas's use of them as justification for Israel's disproportionate response. Israel's raid on the aid ship killed more people in one night than have died in rocket attacks since 2008.
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;22389448]They have a blockade on Gaza...
Why is that so difficult for people to process?
I'm not saying it's right, but they're not going to let ships pass through. Period.[/QUOTE]
Okay thanks for clearing it up for me.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22389541][B]Exactly.[/B]
It's not likely that those rockets will hit [i]anyone[/i], but you still use Hamas's use of them as justification for Israel's disproportionate response. Israel's raid on the aid ship killed more people in one night than have died in rocket attacks since 2008.[/QUOTE]
The rockets are more like fireworks.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;22389541][B]Exactly.[/B]
It's not likely that those rockets will hit [i]anyone[/i], but you still use Hamas's use of them as justification for Israel's disproportionate response. Israel's raid on the aid ship killed more people in one night than have died in rocket attacks since 2008.[/QUOTE]
Well, tell that to the Hamas that they are being counter-productive by firing rockets that pretty much don't do anything yet legitimize our blockade over them.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;22388812]Lovely there was no violence.
But this is still an aid ship. I don't understand what gives them the right to halt an aid ship. I can understand the boarding - it's to check for anything... harmful? I don't comprehend them controlling the ship completely though.[/QUOTE]
Didn't Palestine refuse aid anyway.
[QUOTE=Vinze;22383605]That guy who killed six people seem kinda creepy to me, don't they learn how to shoot people so they only get injured/disabled instead of killed?[/QUOTE]
No
The idea is if you're going to shoot someone, it's to put them down. Lethal Action is Lethal Action and it's called Lethal Action for a reason. It kills and is used only to kill... This isn't some Bruce Willis movie, or Red Dead Redemption
Also, shooting someone holding a gun in the leg isn't going to stop them from pulling the trigger, it will always have the opposite effect
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;22389578]Didn't Palestine refuse aid anyway.[/QUOTE]
The Hamas refused aid saying they want all the activists who are held in Israel due to being charged with assault must be released.
They won't accept aid until then, but aid is still coming in through whoever's asking for it.
No, hamas did.
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22389595]No, hamas did.[/QUOTE]
Beat ya to it :).
Regardless of their moral stance aid flotilla's should not take sides, aid should always be neutral.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;22384099]He was shot in the head 4 times, it brings up the question as to how the IDF commandos defended themselves. Remember even the IDF claimed they were only armed with sidearms, shooting someone in the head four times with a pistol is not easy feat when your acting under self defense.[/QUOTE]
To be fair if he had a gun pointed at me or was beating me with a metal bar (which i'm not saying he was) i would probably want to put him down for good or adrenaline would kick in and I'd hammer the trigger.
You mean a mob didn't attack the soldiers, and in return, the soldiers didn't shoot anyone? That can't be right, check your facts.
It's right, since the only aggressive mob was on the Marmara. The other activists were peaceful and thus no one was killed, which proves the IDF isn't at fault for those deaths.
No no no. This can't be true. You're absolutely sure the IDF didn't just blow holes in the ship for fun? Feed some of the people on board to sharks perhaps?
Hey this is thread made by Isreaeli lover. Totally biased.
So? I brought only facts in the quote and am allowed to write my feelings and opinions below the quote, others have done so many, many times.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22389570]Well, tell that to the Hamas that they are being counter-productive by firing rockets that pretty much don't do anything yet legitimize our blockade over them.[/QUOTE]
There are not enough facepalms in the world. You have attained a level of naivety and willful ignorance that other mere mortals only [I]dream[/I] of.
If I had the chance to bring one of three things, a giant man eating octopus, a rabid wolverine, and you, onto a desert island, I would choose the man eating octopus. It would at least be easier to have a conversation with than you.
Nice Ad Hominem there.
[B]If you read any tactical training/listen to any special forces they will tell you that they all open fire at once.[/B] I presume that he did something and all the soldiers opened fire at once.
If that's not the case, then the soldier is a sick fuck. It's all messed up anyways.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22390107]Nice Ad Hominem there.[/QUOTE]
which totally isn't what you've been doing throughout the thread
nope
Maybe, but on other threads I didn't.
I wasn't being serious on the thread anyway, and like I said there wasn't much of a discussion.
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