• ISRAEL THREAD (Post new Israel threads = get banned)
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I wonder how "They had murder in their eyes" would hold up in court.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxY7Q7CvQPQ[/url]
[QUOTE=IStanI;22390906][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxY7Q7CvQPQ[/url][/QUOTE] While I'm sure that was said through the radio, that's not a reason to shoot up the boat, even if the IDF soldiers were swarmed on boarding.
I'm completely fine with what Israel is doing on this boat. I mean, you never know what they could have hidden on it. The "Sailors" may not be using them, but you don't know if Hamas or something has a plan for it. The aid still gets to Gaza, so it's not really even a big deal if they keep millions of Israelis safe from stuff like rocket attacks and the liking.
Sounds like an innuendo :colbert:
[QUOTE]Israel says it will transfer the aid to the Gaza Strip by land after checking the cargo for banned items.[/QUOTE] The cargo ironically contained building material and school books (I think, memory is failing me)... which I thought were banned. Herp. Non-banned item list. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/05_05_10_gazaimports.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22391066]The cargo ironically contained building material and school books (I think, memory is failing me)... which I thought were banned.[/QUOTE] It will most likely allow these throw, it allowed all contraband through from the last 5 ships who surrendered easily. The cargo of the Marmara though is being kept for more checks and evidence for the investigation, I think, but most of it will probably be sent to Gaza too anyway after they are done with it.
[QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22391066]The cargo ironically contained building material and school books (I think, memory is failing me)... which I thought were banned. Herp. Non-banned item list. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/05_05_10_gazaimports.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] They also said they will give the building material to international aid organizations, So that hamas would not receive them.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;22391131]They also said they will give the building material to international aid organizations, So that hamas would not receive them.[/QUOTE] But Hamas just raided the NGOs that are allowed said building materials. :|
[QUOTE=DogGunn;22391141]But Hamas just raided the NGOs that are allowed said building materials. :|[/QUOTE] What a bunch of dumbasses. This is exactly the reason Israel doesn't allow this kind of stuff to get in.
Interesting fact: OP is from Israel. Not trying to troll anyone or be racist, I'm just stating out a fact that is maybe wired to OP's opinions.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22389602]Beat ya to it :).[/QUOTE] You know, the smileys are there for a reason, and nobody care's if you beat him to it.
[QUOTE=croguy;22391198]Interesting fact: OP is from Israel.[/QUOTE] And his sources are from the BBC. ?
[QUOTE=croguy;22391198]Interesting fact: OP is from Israel.[/QUOTE] Woah, that changes everything. Because if someone is from Israel that means stuff about him, because you know, generalization is true and all the people from Israel are the same in some way.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22388964]I didn't say terrorist, I said terrorist sympathizers, as in people who thought that what the terrorist supporters on the Marmama was doing was completely fine.[/QUOTE] Can we have a blue member revocation thread please
BurnEmDown, I don't usually get involved in discussions about Israel anymore because I feel it's a bit of a waste of time to try and discuss these things with people when I have better things to do... but can you honestly say you are completely fine with everything the state of Israel is doing over there? Atleast this time there were no injuries on either side. Still, it's a shame the ships cargo is going to be sifted through and have the ridiculous list of contraband confiscated before the aid goes onto Gaza.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22391219]Woah, that changes everything. Because if someone is from Israel that means stuff about him, because you know, generalization is true and all the people from Israel are the same in some way.[/QUOTE] You generalized that we're terrorist sympathizers, we generalize that you're a zionist nationalist.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22384999]Israel has legally boarded the ship, it wasn't much of an "attack". Then, the activists attacked the commandos, almost killing them. The commandos had a chance to use their guns too at several points, but didn't use it until they were authorized. They killed 9 people as their only way of self defense, if they wouldn't have done that, they would have died themselves. And we are not talking about wether it was a good decision or not, we are talking about legality.[/QUOTE] How do you know this for certain? According to the activists the Israelis fired live ammunition before boarding the ship. And the blockade is illegal: [url]http://alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE654040.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;22391241]BurnEmDown, I don't usually get involved in discussions about Israel anymore because I feel it's a bit of a waste of time to try and discuss these things with people when I have better things to do... but can you honestly say you are completely fine with everything the state of Israel is doing over there? Atleast this time there were no injuries on either side. Still, it's a shame the ships cargo is going to be sifted through and have the ridiculous list of contraband confiscated before the aid goes onto Israel.[/QUOTE] I do not fully agree, but I believe the blockade in general is legal and so does the boarding of the ships. Contraband from the ships will most likely get through, just like it did in the last 5 ships. Only medicine which their dates expired weren't allowed through.
Generalization is great is ain't it? it makes things so simple for people to understand without using a brain.
Wow, well done to the commandos for shooting each other, what a clusterfuck.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22388922]Hahaha I love how butthurt terrorist sympathizers are rating me boxes.[/QUOTE] Let me translate that "I am right about everything i say, and anyone that disagrees with me are butthurt terrorists!"
Wow, according tot he activists, who would most surely not lie and are completely reliable. And we totally don't need video proof to support their claims, even though the shooting they've heard was most likely warning shots that are fired all the time and are part of the procedure in boarding an un-allied ship. The UN can't officially announce the blockade illegal, only its security council can, and still hasn't. [editline]04:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=SeamanStains;22391303]Wow, well done to the commandos for shooting each other, what a clusterfuck.[/QUOTE] When did the commandos shoot each other?
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22391278]I believe the blockade in general is legal[/QUOTE] Just believing something doesn't make it true.
He asked for my personal opinion, and until proven otherwise, it is legal.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22391349]Just believing something doesn't make it true.[/QUOTE] You forgot the bit where BurnEmDown was being asked for their opinion.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22391321]Wow, according tot he activists, who would most surely not lie and are completely reliable. And we totally don't need video proof to support their claims, even though the shooting they've heard was most likely warning shots that are fired all the time and are part of the procedure in boarding an un-allied ship.[/QUOTE] Are you saying the IDF are more reliable?
No, both sides are biased. At first it was the IDF's words against the activists', so obviously you couldn't blame the IDF for such thing without further proof. But then a video was released showing the IDF to have been attacked first, which proves, at least until other videos are released, that the IDF was only defending itself, against a ruthless mob of aggressors.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22391364]He asked for my personal opinion, and until proven otherwise, it is legal.[/QUOTE] Sorry for prying into your personal opinions but you seem to be the most vocal supporter of Israel on Facepunch, you seem to make some fairly strong accusations branding everyone as terrorist supporters ect... What about the near apartheid being enforced in the west bank though? Surely that can't sit right with you?
Let's make an IDF Bullshit Megathread.
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