I'd like to believe there's a pantheon of gods similiar to the greek ones, but at the same time know that's silly.
What am I?
[QUOTE=J$ Psychotic;42838724]Atheism isn't a religion, it's a lack thereof
So why do they have religious buildings[/QUOTE]
Lack thereof buildings? V:v:V
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42839372]Another funfact: Plenty of people on this site go in to a stupid frenzy whenever Atheism is brought up trying to find some way to mock it to make themselves look better in comparison.[/QUOTE]Yeah it's really sad actually.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;42839446]I'm primarily an apathetic agnostic (which is in my own words) I believe there may be a god or multiple gods, though I am not attached to any specific one.[/QUOTE]
thats not agnostic thats the opposite of agnostic, agnostic means that the truth of that is unknowable
if u say there may be a god you imply thats a knowable fact which is not agnosticism yy
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[QUOTE=J$ Psychotic;42838724]Atheism isn't a religion, it's a lack thereof
So why do they have religious buildings[/QUOTE]
so many agrees and no-one knows what theism means good job facepunch studios
I identify as Deist and I think it is a great idea, they get the benefits of a church (meeting like minded people, community events, support through hard times, community service, etc.) without the preaching. I would love if something like this came to my area.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42839397]Have you?[/QUOTE]
You need to lighten up and learn to take a joke.
Next we'll be having a straight pride movement
oh wait
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;42838755]Agnosticism - I don't know if there is a god
Atheism - There is no god[/QUOTE]
Neither of which has anything to do with being religious or not. There are plenty of atheistic religions...
[QUOTE=Paramud;42839528]You need to lighten up and learn to take a joke.[/QUOTE]
learn to make one
[QUOTE=Paramud;42839528]You need to lighten up and learn to take a joke.[/QUOTE]How exactly was that a joke, sounds more like you're backpedaling.
[QUOTE=Killer900;42839592]How exactly was that a joke, sounds more like you're backpedaling.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying, but they're not exactly making it easy for me.
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;42838755]Agnosticism - I don't know if there is a god
Atheism - There is no god[/QUOTE]
Agnosticism and atheism aren't mutually exclusive, they both serve a different purpose. Theism is the belief in the existence of one or several deities, while atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of one or several deities. Atheism and theism are terms used to describe belief. Agnosticism and gnosticism on the other hand are used to describe knowledge. Agnosticism means that you don't know something with complete certainty but choose to believe it for other reasons, while gnosticism means that you do know something with completely certainty. This is why simply calling yourself an agnostic doesn't make any sense to me, all you're doing is saying that you don't know something but you're not saying what you actually believe. I'm an agnostic atheist because while I can't know whether or not there is a god with absolute certainty (it's an unfalsifiable hypothesis), I choose not to believe in the existence of one due to the lack of credible evidence supporting the claim. You could also be a gnostic atheist, an agnostic theist etc etc.
I think it's silly for these "Churches" to be popping up, but I can understand wanting a safe place to go where you know you share the same ideals as the people attending. It's a sort of sanctuary, even without the deity aspect I can see why people find it comforting.
Aren't there plenty of atheist "churches" already? All atheism means is that you don't believe in gods.
Agnostic is such misused term. You can be agnostic and believe in god you know.
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;42838755]Agnosticism - I don't know if there is a god
Atheism - There is no god[/QUOTE]
Agnosticism - A person can never know whether or not there is a god
Theism - There is or probably is a god
Atheism - There isn't or probably isn't a god
People mess this up constantly. Calling yourself agnostic is not very descriptive by itself. You can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist.
As a result, "agnostics" even ridicule atheists as being to entrenched in their beliefs, even though they are atheists themselves.
Soon they'll be showing up at your doors in droves asking "Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about the lack of existence of Jesus Christ?"
Jehovah's Witness syndrome.
I wonder if these atheist churches are tax exempt like religious institutions?
Can I make an epic atheist fedora post or am I too late?
In a way i find that atheism in america is not the same as in europe. When ever it's brought up from america everyone is like, mlp tips fedora circlejerk neck beard blabla bullshit. Here we simply don't care about it. In my country we accept it but we prefer people keep it to themselves in their personal space and not bring it to the public space. In my country we see religion more as a problematic thing especially after the mohammed drawings etc. Please keep it out.
In europe we started moving away from the overly religios practisism and "god is in everything". With the coming knowledge of science in the 18th century during the Age og Enlightenment and 19th century Dawkins origin of species, which embarked a new period in the late 19th century called Modern Breakthrough which is a strong movement of naturalism and debating litterature of Scandinavia which replaced romanticism in the 19th century.
Only 45% of Americans would vote for an atheist president even if they were qualified. Do you know what's not helping? Most of the people in this thread. You are literally discrediting your own beliefs (yes "agnosticism" is a form of atheism).
First rule of the Atheist church: Don't talk about god.
Second rule of the Atheist church: Do not talk about god.
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;42839672]Um no. That's like saying an asexual is someone who opposes sex.[/QUOTE]
I worded it poorly. Did not mean to imply that atheists are militantly opposed to religion being a thing in the world at all (though it definitely did come across that way so yeah, sorry).
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;42838755]Agnosticism - I don't know if there is a god
Atheism - There is no god[/QUOTE]
This is more along the lines of what i was meaning to say
[QUOTE=Falubii;42839840]Agnosticism - A person can never know whether or not there is a god
Theism - There is or probably is a god
Atheism - There isn't or probably isn't a god
People mess this up constantly. Calling yourself agnostic is not very descriptive by itself. You can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist.
As a result, "agnostics" even ridicule atheists as being to entrenched in their beliefs, even though they are atheists themselves.[/QUOTE]
People don't mess it up constantly actually, there's just still considerable debate even among academics as to what defines an atheist and what defines an agnostic and etcetera and a million different terms for each way you don't believe in a deity and why.
look maybe im not the person to be talking to about how you define different forms of agnosticism, but really the etymology in this case is actually completely irrelevant and we can all probably safely assume that people going to these atheist megachurches are people who had already rejected other religions as an idea - not just the ones that have deities.
That being the case I really don't see why this is stupid. Churches, particularly the more modern ones generally serve the purpose of being a place where a person goes to reflect, or where a person goes for some peace, or to examine themselves in a more spiritual and philosophical way than usual. Not only that but they have a great community aspect to them - churches have historically been community centres as much as they are places of worship.
Knowing that the benefits that places of worship can actually provide beyond religion, it just doesn't seem that absurd to me that in this day and age an institution would arise that provides all the benefits of these places without forcing the person to subscribe to a certain religion or believe in the existence of a deity. it makes perfect sense to me
What this sounds like is a "church" that helps the community like a church does without the religious attachment. I don't see a problem with that. I used to attend church and we did a lot for the community like planting trees and if there was a place I could do that without worshipping a god I'd be happy to
Ahh, yet again it takes Facepunch 3 pages of flying off the handle to realize that their judgments were stupid and what they initially criticized is a decent idea.
[QUOTE=maxumym;42840021]First rule of the Atheist church: Don't talk about god.
Second rule of the Atheist church: Do not talk about god.[/QUOTE]
On the contrary, non-believers like to discuss God and religious beliefs a lot. In fact studies have shown non-believers actually know more about religion than religious peoople themselves.
[QUOTE=Zatar963;42840081]Ahh, yet again it takes Facepunch 3 pages of flying off the handle to realize that their judgments were stupid and what they initially criticized is a decent idea.[/QUOTE]
no it didnt
noone who thought it was a bad idea originally has said that they have changed their mind about it and the only people who think its a good idea have been saying it was a good idea from the start
[QUOTE=Zatar963;42840081]Ahh, yet again it takes Facepunch 3 pages of flying off the handle to realize that their judgments were stupid and what they initially criticized is a decent idea.[/QUOTE]
That's because it only takes 4 seconds to type up a stupid fedora joke, collect their ratings, and leave.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;42840099]no it didnt
noone who thought it was a bad idea originally has said that they have changed their mind about it and the only people who think its a good idea have been saying it was a good idea from the start[/QUOTE]
I was treating Facepunch as a single entity, not as a community.
Do they have giant fedoras on top of them?
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