Healthy foods can cost less - Polidicks

That's why I said drinking milk would probably be good to supplement the meal, since the protein content of milk is mostly casein.

[QUOTE=Lemonator;36012476]Nobody SHOULD be that poor, if they are they are a lazy crackhead[/QUOTE] You'd make a good republican presidential candidate.

[QUOTE=DarkSiper;36012425]I can guarantee you I couldn't live on that alone, :P I need meat in my diet[/QUOTE] I guarantee you'd live fine on that, I am willing to bet my left nut on it. [editline]19th May 2012[/editline] Plus if you need protein from veggies just scran some chick peas, those things are mad good for you, poly unsaturated fats which are fucking stupid good for you, fibre all up in them bitches and protein all up inside them. [quote=Wikipedia]Nutrient profile of desi chana (the smaller variety) is different, especially the fibre content which is much higher than the light coloured variety. One hundred grams of mature boiled chickpeas contains 164 calories, 2.6 grams of fat (of which only 0.27 grams is saturated), 7.6 grams of dietary fiber and 8.9 grams of protein. Chickpeas also provide dietary phosphorus (49–53 mg/100 g), with some sources citing the garbanzo's content as about the same as yogurt and close to milk.[citation needed] Recent studies have also shown that they can assist in lowering of cholesterol in the bloodstream [/quote] Pretty much a super food.

[QUOTE=Lemonator;36012476]Nobody SHOULD be that poor, if they are they are a lazy crackhead[/QUOTE] Well, look who has access to mommy's credit card.

[QUOTE=Lemonator;36012365]well yeah nobody is so poor that they need meals under a dollar[/QUOTE] hahaha i can never tell if these dumb posts in SH are ironic or not because most people here suck at delivering sarcasm in a post but i really hope for your sake you're not being serious

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;36012776]hahaha i can never tell if these dumb posts in SH are ironic or not because most people here suck at delivering sarcasm in a post but i really hope for your sake you're not being serious[/QUOTE] Nah man he's serious, I can tell from seeing quite a few trolls in my time and this guy ain't one of em.

[QUOTE=Lemonator;36012476]Nobody SHOULD be that poor, if they are they are a lazy crackhead[/QUOTE] Oh boy look who's getting money from their parents. [editline]19th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lemonator;36012183]do this and gain 0 muscle whatsoever, healthy doesn't mean go on a strict diet it means what normal human beings should be eating "so much protein?" those are shitty proteins from grains, look into real sources of protein like chicken breast, tuna and salmon[/QUOTE] not everyone's looking to be a REAL MANLY MAN/WOMAN! You'd think musclyness would look weird on a girl right? Not everyone's looking to gain muscle hahaha. [editline]19th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lemonator;36012221]skinny =/= in shape[/QUOTE] muscly/gross =/= in shape in shape = in shape [editline]19th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lemonator;36012365]well yeah nobody is so poor that they need meals under a dollar[/QUOTE] Right. Whatever you say. Lets see you talk that way when you end up having to do that.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;36012458]Quinoa actually has a ton of protein[/QUOTE] A shame I can't stand it

[QUOTE=Lemonator;36012476]Nobody SHOULD be that poor, if they are they are a lazy crackhead[/QUOTE] You are awful.

[QUOTE=Lemonator;36012183]do this and gain 0 muscle whatsoever, healthy doesn't mean go on a strict diet it means what normal human beings should be eating "so much protein?" those are shitty proteins from grains, look into real sources of protein like chicken breast, tuna and salmon[/QUOTE] Who the fuck mentioned muscle growth? Not everyone wants to be a body builder you know.

[QUOTE=Crimptor;36011973]Quinoa, lentils and rice. Buy them in bulk, if you can, thats how I do it. Pop that shit in a rice cooker, and you're good to go. So much protein and all that good stuff, I guarantee you could probably live on that combination alone (obv. plus water) for about a year, it's so packed with nutrition.[/QUOTE] Lentils feel like your eating a shirt though :C

[QUOTE=Lemonator;36012241]then use supplements fuck[/QUOTE] Was agreeing with you up until this point. Most wild beans contain adequate sources of protein.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;36015346]Who the fuck mentioned muscle growth? Not everyone wants to be a body builder you know.[/QUOTE] You're implying a higher level of muscle mass in the average person would be a bad thing....

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;36015703]You're implying a higher level of muscle mass in the average person would be a bad thing....[/QUOTE] It's not a bad thing, But the level Lemonator apparently wants it to be is.

Eating only cheap veggies is healthy only when you're a diet freak. Otherwise you will be lacking needed chemicals. And lacking stuff is never healthy. Most people eat fast food because it's fast, relatively cheap and does not require much thought or planning. Plus it tastes better (imo). So unless you can afford proper meat to compliment your veggies, chances are big part of population won't bother with healthy living. Then again, if you exercise well you won't get overweight from fast foods, unless you eat them 24/7. A similar case is with gaming, even though consoles are more expensive in the long run, they're cheap now and are easy to get playing. Exactly what an average Joe is looking for.

I haven't had an actual vegetable in a month or two.

[QUOTE=Officer brown;36015838]I haven't had an actual vegetable in a month or two.[/QUOTE] Aka nothing that's not meat or just a vegetable? Because if you had fruit that's just fine too. If neither, then that is kinda bad.

Fast food only tastes better to those who can't cook. Whereas if you actually season your food with herbs and spices, it actually tastes much better.

Lol no sorry a pack of hotdogs and some canned beans are a lot cheaper than the healthy foods people ITT are suggesting no matter how you look at it. It is more expensive and instead of trying to justify the price how about the government actively try to lower it while raising the price of unhealthy foods?

[QUOTE=Coffee;36015863]Fast food only tastes better to those who can't cook. Whereas if you actually season your food with herbs and spices, it actually tastes much better.[/QUOTE] Proper cooking requires time, learning to cook does too. In today's society where so many people live by the second they simply can't afford to spend time on "useless" activities. Cooking requires a lot of thought, you not only need to spend time cooking, you need to spend time shopping, thinking of what you need to buy and so on. Sometimes I am myself in a hurry and simply can't spend any time cooking so I whip a sandwich or buy a burger. I can easily see how many people can't spend time shopping and cooking. But these people are usually not poor and can afford buying proper ready food. Not counting the lazy people as that's irrelevant.

[QUOTE=Officer brown;36015838]I haven't had an actual vegetable in a month or two.[/QUOTE] Lazy crackhead!

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;36015924]Lol no sorry a pack of hotdogs and some canned beans are a lot cheaper than the healthy foods people ITT are suggesting no matter how you look at it. It is more expensive and instead of trying to justify the price how about the government actively try to lower it while raising the price of unhealthy foods?[/QUOTE] Artificial price rising just so people buy shit less is imo awfully wrong. Hey we're not going to ban it so we will just increase the price so much that only rich people can buy it. How about making food cheaper overall and leaving the choice for people to choose? I'd hate if I had to pay more for a product because government deemed it unhealthy or whatever other reason. How about instead of rising the price, make fast foods cook higher quality food? This would rise the price BUT it would also provide a good product. I'd be ok with that. I know there are artificial taxing on alcohol and cigs, and I personally don't really agree with them either, but that's not food and is very optional.

[QUOTE=Van-man;36015745]It's not a bad thing, But the level Lemonator apparently wants it to be is.[/QUOTE] I'm not suggesting everyone attempts to become a bodybuilder, but a higher level of muscular development is in no way a bad thing. There's a reason almost every class of athlete in the world incorporates heavy weight training nowadays. You won't ever get as big as a professional bodybuilder without a boatload of drugs and years of single minded dedication. Muscle acts as protective tissue above all else. There's a study on US Army Rangers who changed their training methods to incorporate heavy weight training, they all added on roughly 10-20lbs of lean body mass over a year or so, and their rate of physical injury during training dropped dramatically, while enhancing their performance in a lot of tasks. So contrary to a popularly held belief, muscle isn't just for show. But on the topic of this article, there is no such thing as "good" and "bad" foods that is some dumb arbitrary shit. To be honest, the only really bad thing about say mcdonalds is that almost every food selection is packed with sodium and preservatives (and to be honest, for someone who is routinely engaged in activity, sodium is actually beneficial). High caloric food is not inherently bad, nor is fat (trans fats are another story, to some degree) , nor is sugar. People get fat because they consistently eat more food than they utilize for energy, not because they ate "bad" food. Although to be honest, the combination of fat and sugar in high amounts is why people get addicted to eating mcdonalds. Having high calorie meals virtually on demand doesn't help either.

It's called unhealthy when it contains more fats and sugars and other stuff more than a natural product would. A homemade burger does not contain nearly as much fat as MCD one does. Their shit is unnecessary packed with that stuff. You'd feel full from either but from a fast food burger you receive much more calories and fat compared to homemade food which is then harder to dispose of. Hence why it's called unhealthy.

I got a Burger King meal the otherday and it cost around £7.50 (burger, chips and some onion rings with a drink). For the same price I could of bought a whole chicken with some veg and fed a family of 4.

[QUOTE=Vasili;36016122]I got a Burger King meal the otherday and it cost around £7.50 (burger, chips and some onion rings with a drink). For the same price I could of bought a whole chicken with some veg and fed a family of 4.[/QUOTE] Fast foods are very expensive in Europe and UK. Almost any food is cheaper than that in europe.

[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36016028]It's called unhealthy when it contains more fats and sugars and other stuff more than a natural product would. A homemade burger does not contain nearly as much fat as MCD one does. Their shit is unnecessary packed with that stuff. You'd feel full from either but from a fast food burger you receive much more calories and fat compared to homemade food which is then harder to dispose of. Hence why it's called unhealthy.[/QUOTE] "natural product" I've addressed this before. Something naturally occurring isn't necessarily more "healthy" than something that's been heavily modified by a human. Two apples contain just as much sugar as a can of coke, and no, the "natural" sugar is NOT better. In fact, fructose is more readily stored as fat when liver glycogen stores are full versus ordinary cane sugar. A homemade burger usually isn't smeared in mayo and sauce either, so that's a bad comparison. A double cheeseburger from mcdonalds contains roughly 430 calories, 25g of protein, 26grams of fat, and 27grams of carbohydrates (5 of which are sugars). If you made a house burger with the same ingredients (beef, wheat buns, cheese, onions and tomato sauce) you would come up with much the same macronutrient breakdown. Again there's nothing inherently unhealthy here. Where people get into trouble is the large fries, and half liter of coke they chuck on top of that, if not ice creams and shit as well. But regardless, fast food companies should not be forced to change their business, people need to change their shitty eating habits, it's not like there is restrictions on information access these days either...

[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36015928]Proper cooking requires time, learning to cook does too. In today's society where so many people live by the second they simply can't afford to spend time on "useless" activities. Cooking requires a lot of thought, you not only need to spend time cooking, you need to spend time shopping, thinking of what you need to buy and so on. Sometimes I am myself in a hurry and simply can't spend any time cooking so I whip a sandwich or buy a burger. I can easily see how many people can't spend time shopping and cooking. But these people are usually not poor and can afford buying proper ready food. Not counting the lazy people as that's irrelevant.[/QUOTE] Schools should really teach people how to cook, it's a vital skill that is required in every day life. In the western world we have plenty of leisure time, and if bone-idle people don't want to spend that time making something healthy and delicious, then it's their own downfall they're perpetuating. Cooking doesn't require that much thought, normally I'll just go to my local supermarket and pick out some items that I'm in the mood for. So bacon, pasta, tomatoes, herbs, peppers, onions, garlic, courgette, peas, mushrooms (all coming up to about £4) Shopping for all this'll take me 10 minutes at the most, then I go home and make it (~20 minutes), generally I'll make enough for leftovers so I've got meals for the next few days, to reheat leftovers I can just put it in the microwave for 4 minutes, so it saves time.

Sure if you made 1:1 burger at home, it would be like at MCD because it's 1:1 BUT At home you usually use better meat, the cooking is not so fat based and some other stuff I won't google. Note I am not going to prove my point so anyone is free to invalidate it. [editline]19th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Coffee;36016330]Schools should really teach people how to cook, it's a vital skill that is required in every day life. In the western world we have plenty of leisure time, and if bone-idle people don't want to spend that time making something healthy and delicious, then it's their own downfall they're perpetuating. Cooking doesn't require that much thought, normally I'll just go to my local supermarket and pick out some items that I'm in the mood for. So bacon, pasta, tomatoes, herbs, peppers, onions, garlic, courgette, peas, mushrooms (all coming up to about £4) Shopping for all this'll take me 10 minutes at the most, then I go home and make it (~20 minutes), generally I'll make enough for leftovers so I've got meals for the next few days, to reheat leftovers I can just put it in the microwave for 4 minutes, so it saves time.[/QUOTE]All that comes up only as 4 pounds? Jesus fuck you either buy really little or it's really cheap. If the second one, where do you live, I'm so moving there. Also we had cooking class at school but only for girls because you know, men don't go to the kitchen and the school was sexist.

[QUOTE=Crimptor;36011973]Quinoa, lentils and rice. Buy them in bulk, if you can, thats how I do it. Pop that shit in a rice cooker, and you're good to go. So much protein and all that good stuff, I guarantee you could probably live on that combination alone (obv. plus water) for about a year, it's so packed with nutrition.[/QUOTE] That sounds like a very hungry day for me. Not to mention it also sounds like it tastes the same as leaves from a tree. Literaly.