• NZ politician wants Muslims banned from airlines.
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[QUOTE=north korea;39561743]The statistics go for USA. And it's not easy to get a US visa anymore, not to mention that it'd be nearly impossible for a suspicious Middle Easterner. Muslim terrorism is now almost inexistant in non-Muslim countries because of strict controls and checks. But on another hand, Islamic countries are boiling with Islamic terrorism. [editline]12th February 2013[/editline] A suspicious middle easterner could be Jewish, Christian, or Sikh [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Azurblau;39560505]Suddenly New Zealand is target of airlines bombings, led by white muslim extremists.[/QUOTE] Welp, nice knowing you Facepunch.
[QUOTE=north korea;39560517]But race =/= religion. I also think that "not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim." (which is true) and I'm not racist.[/QUOTE] More acts of terrorism have been carried out by ELF (Earth Liberation Front, pretty much militant hippies) than any Muslim.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;39563176]Well obviously race and racism does exist beyond a scientific level otherwise we would have never been talking about it because it because it wouldn't even exist in our experienced universe in the manner in which we use it when discussing prejudices to muslims. And the fact that I said that it doesn't exist at a scientific level yet was still discussing it proves that I believed it to be a social construct. Why do I need to point that out? It was self evident. [/QUOTE] How's that relevant to what you quoted? You said "Races' don't even exist". There is nothing about it being scientific level. You said it doesn't exist, and then you quoted wikipedia to support that where it said that we don't have any subspecies. If your comment meant what you said "races don't exist" then you were wrong, I pointed it out. If you meant "races don't exist on scientific level" then your post was pointless and irrelevant. Also I don't read minds, I responded to what you said. [QUOTE=NoDachi;39563176]Because skin colour represents such a small biological difference that it doesn't constitute as a scientific marker for establishing differences races. There is more biological difference between individuals of any skin colour than as separated into blocs based entirely on skin colour. Ever wonder why we don't classify iguanas into difference races based on their immense variety of skin colour? Because there was no social pretext to do so.[/QUOTE] Where did I say skin color is enough to diverse people into subspecies? Who are you replying to? I just said skin color (which is the main thing that defines race) is not a social construct. Those are biological differences. [QUOTE=NoDachi;39563176]Again keep up with context. Why would I be tying the issue of race, racism and muslims under subspecies? You just saw a single word from a stub quote from a multi-thousand word wiki article and decided to take the entire thread off onto some bizarre tandem. Pedantic at best.[/QUOTE] You used the quote as support to your claim that races don't exist and even bolded out that sentence about species and subspecies. But yeah I guess that was totally irrelevant... Same for all those posts how we don't have subspecies as counter-argument to my post that we have races.
[QUOTE=Ereunity;39560536]When was the last hijacking? Oh wait [I]NEARLY TWELVE YEARS AGO[/I] it's dumb politicians saying stuff like this that cause attacks in the first place.[/QUOTE] Not that I agree with the MP or anything, but there's an interesting proverb about history and repetition.
Also, [url=http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/]this[/url] shows that only 0.4% of terrorism is carried out by Muslims (in Europe).
[QUOTE=Omali;39560503]I hate the fallacy that "not all Muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are Muslim," that racists perpetuate. Terrorism is generally defined as a violent act to cause fear and gain some religious or political goal. The problem is that while so many countries have a varying, or nonexistent, definition of what constitutes terrorism, which results in terrorist-style attacks not being labeled appropriately, whenever the person being violent is even remotely "Muslim looking" they are immediately classed as a terrorist.[/QUOTE] one day you'll find out that muslim isn't a race.
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