Ron Paul to Speak at Holocaust Denier's 'Gala Dinner Fundraiser' - Polidicks

pretty entertaining to read the butthurt on this forum when there's legitimate questions to be answered about the alleged holocaust. incoming flame? you bet. [QUOTE=Rangergxi;42160996]Well they make up like half of his supporters. The other half is actual Libertarians.[/QUOTE] "I am autistc, please disregard my posts." will do [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=N0 WAR;42163432]As a history major uni graduate, I can say that you're making stuff up.[/QUOTE] argument from authority, nice try.

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166179]pretty entertaining to read the butthurt on this forum when there's legitimate questions to be answered about the alleged holocaust.[/QUOTE] "Alleged" Really

[QUOTE=Mingebox;42166174]Holocaust denialism is for passive-aggressive Nazis.[/QUOTE] i like how you've branded it "denialism" as if all the evidence has been 100% verified. do your homework. plus half of my family is jewish but i don't let petty emotion influence me that easily bro. [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DaysBefore;42166203]"Alleged" Really[/QUOTE] how about the [B][U]indelible[/U][/B] zyklon-b staining that was miraculously absent from the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz and other camps? that alone sends your argument up in smoke.

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166204]i like how you've branded it "denialism" as if all the evidence has been 100% verified. do your homework. plus half of my family is jewish but i don't let petty emotion influence me that easily bro.[/QUOTE] Saying that half of your family is Jewish isn't a way to escape it. Do you think 6 million Jews (give or take several hundred thousand) died in the holocaust? Yes or no?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42166213]Saying that half of your family is Jewish isn't a way to escape it. Do you think 6 million Jews (give or take several hundred thousand) died in the holocaust? Yes or no?[/QUOTE] i believe it would be upwards of 1 million at most (in total). at the camps? estimates have been made around 100 to 200 thousand due to disease (from lice) and malnutrition. what's interesting though is how you're putting me on trial as if i have committed a heinous crime. and this isn't even the first time you've done this. fucking prick.

[QUOTE=catbarf;42166172]Okay, I'm just trying to understand where you draw the line. If I said that the Holocaust happened but some photos were faked and some evidence is sketchy, I don't see how that's different from saying 9/11 happened but some reports were faked and some evidence is sketchy. But on the previous page you said the first is bannable, and now you're saying the second is fine. I'm just not seeing a meaningful difference between the two.[/QUOTE] Because the latter is just plain old conspiracy theory, and the former is just Nazi apologism hidden with sophistry.

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166236]i believe it would be upwards of 1 million at most (in total). at the camps? estimates have been made around 100 to 200 thousand due to disease (from lice) and malnutrition.[/quote] Do you have proof or do these just sound like cool numbers to you? [QUOTE=tzoz;42166236]what's interesting though is how you're putting me on trial as if i have committed a heinous crime. and this isn't even the first time you've done this. fucking prick.[/QUOTE] He asked you a yes or no question. If that's what you think trials are you should probably get back to your eighth grade history assignments

[QUOTE=catbarf;42166172]Okay, I'm just trying to understand where you draw the line. If I said that the Holocaust happened but some photos were faked and some evidence is sketchy, I don't see how that's different from saying 9/11 happened but some reports were faked and some evidence is sketchy. But on the previous page you said the first is bannable, and now you're saying the second is fine. I'm just not seeing a meaningful difference between the two.[/QUOTE] Just read my post. [QUOTE=Starpluck;42161320]You get permbanned for denying the holocaust or [B][U]excessively[/U][/B] seeking to "revise" it. Saying "Oh well I'm not a revisionist myself....but lemme argue against you anyways" is not gonna slide.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42166270]Just read my post.[/QUOTE] who's the nazi now?

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166236]i believe it would be upwards of 1 million at most (in total). at the camps? estimates have been made around 100 to 200 thousand due to disease (from lice) and malnutrition. what's interesting though is how you're putting me on trial as if i have committed a heinous crime. and this isn't even the first time you've done this. fucking prick.[/QUOTE] So you think that no more than a million Jews died? Where did the other five million go? They seemed to suddenly vanish from census records.

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42166262]Do you have proof or do these just sound like cool numbers to you? He asked you a yes or no question. If that's what you think trials are you should probably get back to your eighth grade history assignments[/QUOTE] do you have a point to make or are you just here to attack anyone you perceive as a "nazi sympathizer"? google bar is right up there for you bro. i'm not your personal encyclopedia. and eighth grade history assignments? yeah i already went through that and it was nothing more than a white guilt ceremony drilled into our heads. thanks for asking dude. [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;42166279]So you think that no more than a million Jews died? Where did the other five million go? They seemed to suddenly vanish from census records.[/QUOTE] uh bullshit? there wasn't that many jews living in europe at that time to begin with. there was civil war going on in palestine with jews at the forefront, jews fleeing to america, north africa, south america, etc. they weren't stupid and helpless as you pin them so blatantly. also Jeep-Eep are you gonna actually post and put yourself at risk of being criticized anytime soon?

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166293]do you have a point to make or are you just here to attack anyone you perceive as a "nazi sympathizer"? google bar is right up there for you bro. i'm not your personal encyclopedia.[/quote] If you're arguing something it generally helps to back it up with something other than "It's this way because I say so" I also never called you a Nazi but I guess you're too stupid to notice [QUOTE=tzoz;42166293]and eighth grade history assignments? yeah i already went through that and it was nothing more than a white guilt ceremony drilled into our heads. thanks for asking dude.[/QUOTE] Wowee it's like talking to a antisemitic brick wall

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42166331]If you're arguing something it generally helps to back it up with something other than "It's this way because I say so" I also never called you a Nazi but I guess you're too stupid to notice[/quote] implications must be going over your brain. more than half of this entire forum has autism. do the math. [quote]Wowee it's like talking to a antisemitic brick wall[/QUOTE] so my account of those events are nullified because i didn't agree with them? see it for yourself if your memories aren't so repressed. keep in mind my town is 98% white, so they made extra sure to drill it in.

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166357]implications must be going over your brain. more than half of this entire forum has autism. do the math.[/quote] Um... Okay? [QUOTE=tzoz;42166357]so my account of those events are nullified because i didn't agree with them? see it for yourself if your memories aren't so repressed. keep in mind my town is 98% white, so they made extra sure to drill it in.[/QUOTE] Yes I'm just some dumb sheep yet to open my eyes to the Jewish minority conspiracy to destroy us noble white people. I'm going to sign up for Stormfront right now!

How come most of the 2013s came from /pol/? Also, you guys still haven't posted any sources for your denialism. Yes, some photos were taken out of context, number are only approximate. But you guys don't see bigger picture. There is literally no difference if 5 or 6 million jews died, if gas chambers were usual method or if they died due malnutrition or other causes back in the camps. End result is the same : It's not like even if less jews died, for example 3 million, that the nazis were great lads.

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42166384]Um... Okay? Yes I'm just some dumb sheep yet to open my eyes to the Jewish minority conspiracy to destroy us noble white people. I'm going to sign up for Stormfront right now![/QUOTE] idiot [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("alt of permabanned user" - postal))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166395]idiot[/QUOTE] Nice ad hominem.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42166270]Just read my post.[/QUOTE] Okay, but what I'm not understanding is what is considered excessive. Foreskin basically said that the Holocaust happened but a lot of the evidence is weak. I disagree strongly with his opinion but I don't see how it's comparable to outright denial. It seems like a lot of 'I believe this happened, but the facts aren't ironclad' sort of posts regarding 9/11 and conspiracies could be treated the same way. I'm sorry if this comes across as pedantic, I guess I'm just not grasping what the standard is here. [QUOTE=tzoz;42166357]implications must be going over your brain. more than half of this entire forum has autism. do the math. so my account of those events are nullified because i didn't agree with them? see it for yourself if your memories aren't so repressed. keep in mind my town is 98% white, so they made extra sure to drill it in.[/QUOTE] ...Are you for real?

[QUOTE=overpain;42166390]There is literally no difference if 5 or 6 million jews died, if gas chambers were usual method or if they died due malnutrition or other cause back in the camps. End result is the same : It's not like even if less jews died, for example 3 million, that the nazis were great lads.[/QUOTE] the point is that facts are facts and jews are singled out in favor of all the other tens of millions of people who died because of the erroneous data. if you consider yourself morally grounded then either you [B]stand up for all people[/B] or you're a hypocritical piece of shit. i doubt anyone here is making the case that the Third Reich was a benign one. try reading again. [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=overpain;42166405]Nice ad hominem.[/QUOTE] thanks asshole [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming (again...) + holocaust denial" - MaxOfS2D))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166421]the point is that facts are facts and jews are singled out in favor of all the other tens of millions of people who died because of the erroneous data. if you consider yourself morally grounded then either you [B]stand up for all people[/B] or you're a hypocritical piece of shit. [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] thanks asshole[/QUOTE] First of all, this subject is holocaust, which is jewish genocide. Balts had it's own genocide by nazis (generalplan ost), slavs too. It isn't current subject now though. You still haven't posted sources for all your claims. And throwing ad hominems just proves you lost the fight.

[QUOTE=catbarf;42166411]Okay, but what I'm not understanding is what is considered excessive. Foreskin basically said that the Holocaust happened but a lot of the evidence is weak. I disagree strongly with his opinion but I don't see how it's comparable to outright denial. It seems like a lot of 'I believe this happened, but the facts aren't ironclad' sort of posts regarding 9/11 and conspiracies could be treated the same way. I'm sorry if this comes across as pedantic, I guess I'm just not grasping what the standard is here.[/QUOTE] "Most of the photographical evidence has been concluded to be doctored and the most evidence we truly have is a couple of old folks making claims about events that occurred in their childhoods." If you outright say that most of the evidence pretaining to the Holocaust has aleady been "concluded to be doctored" and you don't provide proof you're will be banned.

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166395]idiot[/QUOTE] lol xd epic ownage dudebro [QUOTE=tzoz;42166421]the point is that facts are facts and jews are singled out in favor of all the other tens of millions of people who died because of the erroneous data. if you consider yourself morally grounded then either you [B]stand up for all people[/B] or you're a hypocritical piece of shit. i doubt anyone here is making the case that the Third Reich was a benign one. try reading again.[/QUOTE] Jews were the single most numerous group to die in the holocaust, but nobody is saying they were the only group. [QUOTE=tzoz;42166421]thanks asshole[/QUOTE] Man I bet you have a lot friends

[QUOTE=catbarf;42166411]...Are you for real?[/QUOTE] you realize that's the equivalent of saying "ummmmm... i dont have a real opinion to articulate here..." right? try again please.

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166293]uh bullshit? there wasn't that many jews living in europe at that time to begin with.[/quote] Source. [quote]there was civil war going on in palestine with jews at the forefront, jews fleeing to america, north africa, south america, etc. they weren't stupid and helpless as you pin them so blatantly.[/quote] Afaik, Israel had no civil war during the early 1940s, considering that the state didn't exist yet.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42166460]"Most of the photographical evidence has been concluded to be doctored and the most evidence we truly have is a couple of old folks making claims about events that occurred in their childhoods." If you outright say that most of the evidence pretaining to the Holocaust has aleady been "concluded to be doctored" and you don't provide proof you're will be banned.[/QUOTE] Alright, I get it now, thanks for clarifying. [QUOTE=tzoz;42166421]the point is that facts are facts and jews are singled out in favor of all the other tens of millions of people who died because of the erroneous data. if you consider yourself morally grounded then either you [B]stand up for all people[/B] or you're a hypocritical piece of shit. i doubt anyone here is making the case that the Third Reich was a benign one. try reading again.[/QUOTE] Still not a single link or shred of evidence for anything you're saying. Also you seem to actually be implying that it matters exactly how many millions died because 'morally grounded' people need to stand up for the Nazis. I really don't know what to say to that. Edit: Oh, what a surprise. That, gentlemen, was the perfect example of how [i]not[/i] to present a fringe belief.

[QUOTE=tzoz;42166466]you realize that's the equivalent of saying "ummmmm... i dont have a real opinion to articulate here..." right? try again please.[/QUOTE] Yeah, this guy isn't going to last long here.

[QUOTE=Squidman;42166515]Yeah, this guy isn't going to last long here.[/QUOTE]Well no shit, he just got banned for a month :v:

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42161320]You get permbanned for denying the holocaust or excessively seeking to "revise" it. Saying "Oh well I'm not a revisionist myself....but lemme argue against you anyways" is not gonna slide.[/QUOTE] To be fair mate, you shouldn't ban them for trying to explain their point of view, it goes against freedom of speech idea.

[QUOTE=overpain;42166564]To be fair mate, you shouldn't ban them for trying to explain their point of view, it goes against freedom of speech idea.[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech isn't guaranteed here. Also, he was banned for flaming.

If there was a freedom of speech rule here then everyone would be flaming eachother