I suggest they get these.
[img]http://img.alibaba.com/photo/101126789/Wheeled_Snow_track_Ambulance.summ.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Kappa169;20496825]I suggest they get these.
[img]http://img.alibaba.com/photo/101126789/Wheeled_Snow_track_Ambulance.summ.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
So they can use them once every decade? They usually get at most 6 inches of snow in a month.
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Sorry, that should be 12 inches in a month. In January and February. And 12 inches is easily handled.
[QUOTE=DiscoPony;20496650]:downs:
It was also snowing heavily. Visibility was probably very low. They most likely were not trained for rescue operations in that kind of weather.[/QUOTE]
Well fuck me i'm sure there would have been some sort of indication to where you are, just cause it's snowing doesn't mean there are no landmarks.
And only a few months before Pittsburgh hosted the G8 conference, and put on a grand act for people to praise it for being so "advanced", "progressed", and the powers of the world seeing it as a success story of capitalism.
Really, it's a darn shame for the victim and the family. It's one thing to die while being treated in the hospital, it's another thing entirely to have your cries for help not being taken seriously. I guarantee you if this was the situation took place in a gentrified neighborhood in Pittsburgh, the emergency crew probably would have felt more motivation to get the job done.
the real question here is where the fuck were the snow plows?
It's not that cold out. They could walk. People are such pansies these days.
I mean it isn't their fault that they got told to leave by any means, but that someone decided that walking was too hard is sort of sad.
Lets hope this has taught a lesson to all paramedics out there not to be lazy when a life is at risk, they're there to help people in need and they didn't even try hard enough.
[QUOTE=niko2410;20489253]Absolutely disgusting.
I honestly can not believe that something like this would be allowed to happen.[/QUOTE]
K, go sign up as a 911 operator and crusade against these horrible incidents, but then come back and tell us how hard your job is.
Shit happens, it sucks, but you can't always control every circumstance.
You can't walk a quarter mile with adequate medical equiptment to solve this kind of thing. Sounds like he had a severe internal problem, even if they had got there, they couldn't have done much for him. They are paramedics, not emergency surgeons.
I suppose they should have gone to do what they can, but this guy was basically screwed, because there was no way he could have gotten to a hospital in time. He needed surgery, and paramedics are not trained in advanced surgical practices, especially not those needed to perform surgery on the pancreas.
[QUOTE=keatinator;20497337]Lets hope this has taught a lesson to all paramedics out there not to be lazy when a life is at risk, they're there to help people in need and they didn't even try hard enough.[/QUOTE]
Did you not read my post, the ambulance was canceled. All of you who are blaming the paramedic crews need to shut the fuck up and read my post before vomiting out your comments. The ambulance was canceled, they didn't say "fuck that guy I am not walking in the snow" and drive off. When a call is canceled the dispatcher doesn't say why, all you know is you know is to turn around and return to you station. The people who fucked up where the dispatchers.
So?
Keep in mind that they didn't know how bad he was, they should have walked/swam there through the snow to assess the situation.
EDIT: that was to hypnotoad.
Honestly, everyone here is raging over basically nothing. The man was better off waiting at home for help to reach him, than if he were to be carried outside, on a stretcher, by two paramedics, through three feet of snow. I've walked through three feet of fresh snow before, its nearly impossible. You're not even taking steps, you're belly-flopping out of every new hole you make for yourself and trying to crawl out into yet another one. Its exhausting as hell, not ideal, and to do it while carrying someone is just impossible.
Yes its sad but it happens.
Also whoever said "lol helichoppers use them" is a retard because this was a fucking blizzard.
You can be angry at this thing all you want, but that guy was screwed. He could have been saved if the dispatchers were not incompetent, and if it wasn't snowing. Even if the paramedics had got there, he still would have died. If you have pancreatitis, you need surgery immediately, or you will die. Paramedics cannot perform pancreatic surgery.
It's sad, yes, but even if the dispatchers had done their job right, the paramedics wouldn't have been able to get there in time, let alone having the equipment or training necessary to perform such an operation. The point is, this was all just bad timing, and this guy would have inevitably died; shifting blame won't make him come back.
[QUOTE=bravehat;20497804]So?
Keep in mind that they didn't know how bad he was, they should have walked/swam there through the snow to assess the situation.[/QUOTE]
What part of they where canceled do you fail to understand? Its not there call that they where canceled, they where just doing what they where told to.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;20497962]You can be angry at this thing all you want, but that guy was screwed. He could have been saved if the dispatchers were not incompetent, and if it wasn't snowing. Even if the paramedics had got there, he still would have died. If you have pancreatitis, you need surgery immediately, or you will die. Paramedics cannot perform pancreatic surgery.
It's sad, yes, but even if the dispatchers had done their job right, the paramedics wouldn't have been able to get there in time, let alone having the equipment or training necessary to perform such an operation. The point is, this was all just bad timing, and this guy would have inevitably died; shifting blame won't make him come back.[/QUOTE]
They're job is to get him to the hospital. He lasted 3 days before dying. Had the medics made it to the home, they would have had plenty of time to get him to the hospital.
They should have gotten a plow truck, seriously.
Even if I were an EMT (which I hope to be in the future) I would not leave a patient behind. I understand the call was canceled. But in the back of my mind, I knew there would have been a reason. About the safety of my crew, leave on in the Ambulance, let the other assess. Paramedics carry radios, and therefore can keep in contact.
[QUOTE=Acesarge;20493893]
For those of you saying the EMS crews should have walked to the house, try carrying an 80+ pound stretcher, EKG machine, oxygen tank, drug box, and jump bag through 22 inches of snow and see how far you get. If the roads hadn't been plowed how would you suggest they get there? [/QUOTE]
Attach these fuckers to your feet AND WALK ON THE GODDAMN SNOW LIKE MOTHERFUCKING JESUS:
[img]http://hovden.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/toppturtruge_27.11.jpg[/img]
FUCK YEA.
No seriusly, you guys are pussies if 22 inches of snow stops you.
Hospitals in areas that get any snow should have a snowmobile ready.
[QUOTE=Identity;20499057]Even if I were an EMT (which I hope to be in the future) I would not leave a patient behind. I understand the call was canceled. But in the back of my mind, I knew there would have been a reason. About the safety of my crew, leave on in the Ambulance, let the other assess. Paramedics carry radios, and therefore can keep in contact.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=paul simon;20499181]
No seriusly, you guys are pussies if 22 inches of snow stops you.[/QUOTE]
spoken truly like 14 year olds who think they know how to be a paramedic.
the paramedics should be fired and blackmarked, lazy bastards
Get up.
Get down.
911's a joke in yo town.
holy shit man that EMT guy is owning 15 year old idiots like its goin out of style
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you are truly doing the lords work
I guess mother nature gave this guy the cold shoulder
[QUOTE=Zeke129;20489111]I would have called a taxi. Would have gotten to the hospital faster.[/QUOTE]
Hey zeke ;)
The disbatcher said, "Help is on the way!" and it never came. Just imagine how that person feels. Wait, they're DEAD.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;20499310]spoken truly like 14 year olds who think they know how to be a paramedic.[/QUOTE]
First off all, I'm seventeen, so get that through your mind. Second, I have determination, especially when it comes to a person living or dying.
And I didn't say I knew how to be a Paramedic, you just assumed I did to make your post appear smarter, when all it is, is speculation and you being an asshole. But that's just my take.
=( I wish the best for the girlfriend. And those paramedics better get punished. If I knew this was happening to someone, fuck the ambulance. I would walk a mile to get someone who was dieing if I knew they were depending on me to save their [b] life [/b]
I didn't know Facepunch was full of so many hero's. Being an EMT is a job, and part of the job is not being supermen who are willing to sacrifice their life to keep their job, it's not realistic.
I don't know why the roads weren't plowed for 3 days, but it's not the EMT's fault at all.
[QUOTE=paul simon;20499181]Attach these fuckers to your feet AND WALK ON THE GODDAMN SNOW LIKE MOTHERFUCKING JESUS:
[img]http://hovden.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/toppturtruge_27.11.jpg[/img]
FUCK YEA.
No seriusly, you guys are pussies if 22 inches of snow stops you.[/QUOTE]
That's a great idea, those paramedics where retards for not using there snowshoes, they should have just strapped skis on the stretcher's wheels and taken it like that. Every medic should know that all ambulances, no matter the location, keep snowshoes on board for just such an occasion. /sarcasm
"holy shit man that EMT guy is owning 15 year old idiots like its goin out of style
Edited:
you are truly doing the lords work"
Thanks, I do my best.
We also don't know what other calls the operators/despatchers were receiving. I'm guessing it's likely they had to prioritise other accidents (although admittedly he probably would have got seen to if it hadn't been seen as three seperate calls).
It's like triage I guess. If you have someone stuck behind a metre of snow with severe abdominal pains, and on the other hand someone who's collapsed with hypothermia who is accessible, then you'd dispatch someone to the hypothermia patient.
It's a serious breakdown in the system, but from what the dispatchers and paramedics knew they probably were doing the right thing.
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