• An innocent man may have just been executed in Georgia after Supreme Court denies stay of execution
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[QUOTE=Atlascore;32420939]everyone in the south is a skinhead the second anyone even looks wrong at a black person and it makes the news.[/QUOTE] oh so every time anyone wants to talk about race we have to start stereotyping and insulting the south even when it doesn't make a difference. we can't attack racism because it might hurt the poor southerners feelings, right?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32420939]No, it's not that, it's that people still think we're in the 1950's, there's still racism here but we've made a lot of progress since then, but it's all ignored and suddenly everyone in the south is a skinhead the second anyone even looks wrong at a black person and it makes the news.[/QUOTE] That's right folks! "Looking wrong at a black person" is the same thing as convicting and executing him on next to no evidence! And you shouldn't get upset about it because we don't do it as much as we did in 1950! Great job, us.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32420977]Okay, and? That still doesn't mean everyone in the south is racist and wants to kill all black people or put them in prison.[/QUOTE] prove it!
okay but if you think the [B]supreme court[/B] is not going to pardon the man despite all of this evidence, jury members who rescinded their statements, etc. simply because of the color of his skin, yer insane. there has to be another reason they're not telling us.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32420977]That still doesn't mean everyone in the south is racist and wants to kill all black people or put them in prison.[/QUOTE] Nobody said this. Arguing is easy when you ignore what the other person says and only refute bizarre and ridiculous claims that you made up yourself, isn't it.
[QUOTE=skynrdfan3;32420996]okay but if you think the [B]supreme court[/B] is not going to pardon the man despite all of this evidence, jury members who rescinded their statements, etc. simply because of the color of his skin, yer insane. there has to be another reason they're not telling us.[/QUOTE] Which raises a good question--why AREN'T they telling us?
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[QUOTE=Atlascore;32421044]Congratulations you have no reading comprehension. This happened in Georgia, which happens to be in the south, where people are automatically labeled as racists and idiots, and a black person was wrongly executed (which people in Georgia are pissed off about), so yes it has something to do with the south and all white people supposedly being racist ever since Zeke posted "cough he's black cough".[/QUOTE] Maybe people would stop thinking Southerners were racist if you guys stopped executing black people on flimsy evidence and running them over with trucks. I mean, I know some awesome people from the South, I'm just saying. Don't you think there's a middle ground between "EVERYBODY IN THE SOUTH IS A KKK SKINHEAD NAZI WHO SHOULD DIE" and "DON'T CRITICIZE THE SOUTH IT IS AN EGALITARIAN UTOPIA NOTHING IS WRONG"?
the kid who ran over the black guy was from brandon. only weird people come from brandon. no lie.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;32420605]Simple solution, just stop killing people, and keep them in prison. It costs less.[/QUOTE] Can we at least execute the members of the Supreme Court who denied this man a stay on his execution before we do though? Please?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32421138]I didn't say everything here is racist-free and a utopian society, I just said stuff here isn't as bad as you think.[/QUOTE] And I'm saying it's worse than YOU think.
Innocent or not the death penalty is stupid.
[QUOTE=TH89;32421050]Which raises a good question--why AREN'T they telling us?[/QUOTE] they're too childish to admit they were wrong
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;32421217]Innocent or not the death penalty is stupid.[/QUOTE] I disagree, I think it should stay for the utmost extreme cases where one cannot be rehabilitated.
[QUOTE=TH89;32421050]Which raises a good question--why AREN'T they telling us?[/QUOTE] They're a bunch of apathetic old fucks with cushy positions they can only fuck up via overt corruption and what T.Jeff called "the imbecilities of dotage", and have a free "do not care, but our not caring does not imply anything about whether or not your appeal has merit or we're just lazy" card. Telling us outright they can't be bothered when they've got politics and hobbies to care about would just be insulting. Maybe it's racism, but the Supreme Court has always been a bit of a lump. I default to thinking anything they decline to review would have interrupted cheetos and WoW night.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32421138]I didn't say everything here is racist-free and a utopian society, I just said stuff here isn't as bad as you think.[/QUOTE] well obviously it's bad enough to still be executing innocent black men so, like, I'm not sure what it is you're contending here
[QUOTE=TH89;32421003]Nobody said this. Arguing is easy when you ignore what the other person says and only refute bizarre and ridiculous claims that you made up yourself, isn't it.[/QUOTE] You sir, win. Can I use that quote?
[QUOTE=Laferio;32421281]I disagree, I think it should stay for the utmost extreme cases where one cannot be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE] so what you're saying is that we implement a system whereby someone can have their sentence changed from "life in prison" to "death" after attempts to rehabilitate them prove fruitless? that is, a system in which the punishment a person receives for a crime can be changed months, years even, after the trial which convicted them? because I'm pretty sure the 5th amendment explicitly prohibits trying someone for the same crime twice and that's basically the only way to implement the system that you're proposing
Good job, American justice system. You twats. Just heard about this on the radio.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32421315]You're saying that like this happens every day and that it's some kind of epidemic. This isn't the only time an innocent person has been executed, and it definitely isn't exclusive to the south.[/QUOTE] uh ok I'm not exactly sure what you're arguing because you're saying "hey the racism ain't so bad" which is sorta a substance-less thing to say i mean why, in a thread about an innocent man who was executed, is your main prerogative to jump on anyone who mentions racism? why do you feel defending the south from totally moderate, even-tempered accusations of racism is your job here?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32421315]You're saying that like this happens every day. This isn't the only time an innocent person has been executed, and it definitely isn't exclusive to the south.[/QUOTE] Doesn't happen in Canada!
[QUOTE=Lambeth;32421344]Doesn't happen in Canada![/QUOTE] That might end up changing by the time our current government is done but I digress
I would like to say the death penalty should be used, but the justice system needs to be rationalized of all injustice before innocent lives could be put at stake. This story made me a lot more upset than I should have been.
Interested in what the Supreme Court spent 4 hours deliberating on to come to the conclusion to kill the man.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;32421286]They're a bunch of apathetic old fucks with cushy positions they can only fuck up via overt corruption and what T.Jeff called "the imbecilities of dotage", and have a free "do not care, but our not caring does not imply anything about whether or not your no appeal has merit or we're just lazy" card. Telling us outright they can't be bothered when they've got politics and hobbies to care about would just be insulting. Maybe it's racism, but the Supreme Court has always been a bit of a lump. I default to thinking anything they decline to review would have interrupted cheetos and WoW night.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't think racism was the motivating factor in the Supreme Court decision, although it seems likely it was a big part of the initial conviction. Their failure to redress it definitely exacerbates that though.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;32421382]Interested in what the Supreme Court spent 4 hours deliberating on to come to the conclusion to kill the man.[/QUOTE] Absolutely fuck-all, they didn't deliberate or decide anything. With the Supreme Court denial is seen as not passing judgement but just neutrally saying "we will not deal with this." Their denial came after the execution was scheduled to happen- the ideal for them probably would have been if the guy had just been killed and they didn't have to comment. [QUOTE=TH89;32421389]Yeah, I don't think racism was the motivating factor in the Supreme Court decision, although it seems likely it was a big part of the initial conviction. Their failure to redress it definitely exacerbates that though.[/QUOTE] Fair enough.
[QUOTE=Abrown516;32421366]I would like to say the death penalty should be used, but the justice system needs to be rationalized of all injustice before innocent lives could be put at stake.[/QUOTE] So in other words, the death penalty should never be used.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;32421447]Absolutely fuck-all. Their denial came after the execution was scheduled to happen. The ideal for them would have been if the guy had just been killed and they didn't have to comment.[/QUOTE] Hopefully an idealistic young journalist with a passion for the hard-hitting truth and social commentary that Americans crave will step up to the plate and give us a statement from one of the judges. Welp.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;32421475]Hopefully an idealistic young journalist with a passion for the hard-hitting truth and social commentary that Americans crave will step up to the plate and give us a statement from one of the judges. Welp.[/QUOTE] I really wish I could live in your world for like 10 minutes.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32420748]Okay, and? In case you haven't noticed it's 2011.[/QUOTE] 1989 crime and evidence.
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