• An innocent man may have just been executed in Georgia after Supreme Court denies stay of execution
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[QUOTE=Turnips5;32428944]People of any type shouldn't be getting executed.[/QUOTE] Don't get me wrong, I don't support the death penalty under any circumstance.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;32429390]leaping to conclusions are we[/QUOTE] Hey, sometimes conservatives want to twist people's words to make them sound like a bigot, too!
Even if this man was guilty, which he was evidently not, have we humans really not matured enough to realise that ''an eye for an eye'' is extremely irrational?
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;32426016]I support the death penalty, but this was done in complete gross negligence to due process.[/QUOTE] Any example of the death penalty is a complete gross negligence of due process and justice. [editline]22nd September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SpaceGhost;32428124]No, it costs billions just to keep 3,000,000+ people in prison for a year. Also they should have done way more research, doesn't seem like this poor guy killed anyone, stupid fuckups.[/QUOTE] This is implying the United States is executing all of these people. There are ways to try and curb prison population, murdering them all is not one of them. For the people on deathrow, it costs more to execute a person than keep them alive. [editline]22nd September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;32429410]Agreed, though a sick hopeless motherfucker is better dead than in an expensive jail cell. I mean I would hardly see someone who killed another person going straight to the death row, but a sick disturbed man who killed and skinned ten kids and that just wants to keep going with it ? Sure, just put a needle in his arm already.[/QUOTE] What will that do? If he's in prison, he can't really kill any more kids now can he? It's not going to bring back the people he killed. Just doing it to do it is barbaric.
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32431397]Hey, sometimes conservatives want to twist people's words to make them sound like a bigot, too![/QUOTE] It didn't really achieve what you intended it to do then, I think.
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32431397]Hey, sometimes conservatives want to twist people's words to make them sound like a bigot, too![/QUOTE] sometimes conservatives should calm down and realize they don't understand half of what anyone says. oh i'm sorry when you said conservatives you meant you didn't you.
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32432197]What will that do? If he's in prison, he can't really kill any more kids now can he? It's not going to bring back the people he killed. Just doing it to do it is barbaric.[/QUOTE] Costing more money in the long run than if he just died. Evasion chances. Might get released sooner for good behavior. Can harm other prisoners and guards.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32432919]Costing more money in the long run than if he just died.[/QUOTE] Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong? Wrong wrong wrong! Wrong Wrong wrong, "wrong wrong wrong; wrong wrong. Wrong!"
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32433131]Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong? Wrong wrong wrong! Wrong Wrong wrong, "wrong wrong wrong; wrong wrong. Wrong!"[/QUOTE] you know when you say a certain word a lot it doesn't even sound like a word anymore, it just sounds like a sound.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32433151]you know when you say a certain word a lot it doesn't even sound like a word anymore, it just sounds like a sound.[/QUOTE] It was astonishing how hard it got to type "wrong" by the end of that post.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32433273]It was astonishing how hard it got to type "wrong" by the end of that post.[/QUOTE] CTRL + V :)))))))))
[QUOTE=Talkbox;32433387]CTRL + V :)))))))))[/QUOTE] I don't go for any of that BS easy-mode posting.
I'll just post it to make things easier, duckies. [url]http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/599[/url] " * North Carolina spends $2.16 million per execution more than the costs of a non-death penalty murder case. * Florida has spent around $57 million on the death penalty for just 18 executions. This averages to about $3.2 million per execution. * In Texas, the death penalty costs an average of $2.3 million per execution, three times more expensive than imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. * The State of Ohio spent $1.5 million to execute a mentally retarded man who wanted to be executed. * California spends $90 million annually on the death penalty over the costs of their regular system. $78 million of that money is spent at the trial level, proving that the death penalty costs come almost completely from the trial level. Not the appeals process, like everyone thinks it does."
Tomorrow I will be taking part in a protest on my campus. We will all wear black in protest of Davis being wrongly executed, we'll also be handing out sheets with his story.
Although the American justice system is flawed, and although this case is very tragic, it doesn't render the American justice system a steaming pile of shit.
Really sad that this shit happens in the U.S.. There needs to be some rework of our so called justice system. I think that that is time for some kind of non violent revolution think Ghandi kind of thing. This is one reason that I say fuck the shit, I am talking about the bad things about the system not in it's entirety.
[QUOTE=johnlmonkey;32434435]Tomorrow I will be taking part in a protest on my campus. We will all wear black in protest of Davis being wrongly executed, we'll also be handing out sheets with his story.[/QUOTE] What is the protest for, do you want to resurrect him or something ? He's dead, you should start protesting to ask for abolition of death penalty or something. [editline]23rd September 2011[/editline] And why the fuck is one death sentence so expensive ? You strap him to a chair, you put a needle in his arm, he dies.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32434975] And why the fuck is one death sentence so expensive ? You strap him to a chair, you put a needle in his arm, he dies.[/QUOTE] That's like saying "Why is a car so expensive? You take metal, shape it and slap it on an engine. SIMPLE" There's a lot of in between.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32434975]And why the fuck is one death sentence so expensive ? You strap him to a chair, you put a needle in his arm, he dies.[/QUOTE] Trying to do it even remotely humanely costs a shitload of money. As cheap as it would be to just spend $5 and put lead in skulls, that tends to be: -inhumane -prone to error -messy not to mention the horrifying psychological repercussions it has on the guys doing it, etc.
What's costing so much anyway ?
It amazes how much racism is still prevalent in some of those areas, Savannah being number one. Racial tension through the roof in that place. Why does it seem places like this are stuck in some kind of time jelly that disables them to move forward regarding basic civil rights?
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32432919]Costing more money in the long run than if he just died. Evasion chances. Might get released sooner for good behavior. Can harm other prisoners and guards.[/QUOTE] but what if s/he's innocent? tell me your solution to bringing people back from the dead
I was driving home from school (in Atlanta) the other day and some asshat on WSB said that our prison system was never meant to reform people and that troy davis was guilty and deserved to be killed also he was arguing that as a christian he's totally fine with the death penalty because it's supported by scripture. that is nothing to be proud about Note this is the biggest news radio out of Atlanta, Georgia [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSB_(AM)[/url]
Damn it, this happened again. And this time he was most likely innocent. [QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32433610] * California spends $90 million annually on the death penalty over the costs of their regular system. $78 million of that money is spent at the trial level, proving that the death penalty costs come almost completely from the trial level. Not the appeals process, like everyone thinks it does.[/QUOTE] That's quite a bit of money. Doesn't California already have enough financial problems?
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;32423358]Okay, I'll rephrase then. I don't want to live in this [I]country[/I] anymore.[/QUOTE] This pisses me off. This "abandon ship" attitude that I'm seeing a lot of Americans having is only gonna make things worse. It's ignoring a problem and hoping that it will go away by itself.
Do not blame the system. Trial by a jury of your peers. Blame those who thought that it was beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed this crime based on the word of a couple of people and not solid physical evidence.
[QUOTE=Vince323;32436825]but what if s/he's innocent? tell me your solution to bringing people back from the dead[/QUOTE] You usually have proof when someone butchers four limbs off a few kids. If you don't then don't kill the guy.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;32438188]Do not blame the system. Trial by a jury of your peers. Blame those who thought that it was beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed this crime based on the word of a couple of people and not solid physical evidence.[/QUOTE] I blame the system for killing him in the first place
It is stuff like this that fuels my vigilante fantasies.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;32438188]Do not blame the system. Trial by a jury of your peers. Blame those who thought that it was beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed this crime based on the word of a couple of people and not solid physical evidence.[/QUOTE] But they didn't think that, they later recanted their judgment, saying the police pushed them to convict him.
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