An innocent man may have just been executed in Georgia after Supreme Court denies stay of execution - Polidicks

I was one of those who signed the petition to save the poor man from this. :C Fucking hell, what has our world come to!

The first time I read this thread I thought this happened in Georgia, eastern europe, not Georgia, USA. That makes it worse.

[QUOTE=HkSniper;32438188]Blame those who thought that it was beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed this crime based on the word of a couple of people and not solid physical evidence.[/QUOTE] Jury instructions in most states explicitly state not to blame yourself for or refuse to convict based on potential punishments. Having guys feel like they personally were responsible even for landing a guy in jail for a while can put a lot of strain on them. They're supposed to be finders of truth, not deciders of punishment, and that's the role they play- judge is the one who decides a sentence. That they fucked up the truth element is on them, certainly, and you can feel good about calling them fucking dense bastards, but blaming them for the punishment chosen when it is a level removed from them is moronic.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32432604]sometimes conservatives should calm down and realize they don't understand half of what anyone says. oh i'm sorry when you said conservatives you meant you didn't you.[/QUOTE] Are you saying you don't know what "twisting his words" means?

[QUOTE=Quark:;32420514]I can't wait to go to the UK or something.[/QUOTE] You'll get arrested for defending yourself in your home.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;32442941]You'll get arrested for defending yourself in your home.[/QUOTE] Translated: You'll get arrested for shooting and killing some gangsters armed only with knuckle dusters or knives versus the threat of your firearm even if you don't instantly shoot them in the face.

[QUOTE=HkSniper;32438188]Do not blame the system. Trial by a jury of your peers. Blame those who thought that it was beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed this crime based on the word of a couple of people and not solid physical evidence.[/QUOTE] I'm supposed to blame the jury for not looking into the future and seeing that witnesses were going to recant eventually?

[QUOTE=HkSniper;32438188]Do not blame the system. Trial by a jury of your peers. Blame those who thought that it was beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed this crime based on the word of a couple of people and not solid physical evidence.[/QUOTE] First of all, how could they have known the witnesses were pressured to testify against him. Secondly, the judge didn't have to give him a death sentence.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;32442941]You'll get arrested for defending yourself in your home.[/QUOTE] Unnecessary force, yeah. I think the state executing an innocent man after denying his stay is a little bit worse than the government arresting you for murdering a guy who took your stereo. It's not like my deciding vote is goes to how far I can go to harm people breaking into my house.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32442446]Are you saying you don't know what "twisting his words" means?[/QUOTE] You didn't twist his words. You took his sentence and swapped out some of your own.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;32449653]You didn't twist his words. You took his sentence and swapped out some of your own.[/QUOTE] No, he said that "it's bad enough to still be executing innocent black men" obviously referring to both the specifics of this case and America's history of lynching and unfair justice. However, I falsely inferred from his specific referral to black men that he had no qualms about executing innocent people of other races, such as whites. That is pretty much a textbook definition of twisting someone's words.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32449937]No, he said that "it's bad enough to still be executing innocent black men" obviously referring to both the specifics of this case and America's history of lynching and unfair justice. However, I falsely inferred from his specific referral to black men that he had no qualms about executing innocent people of other races, such as whites. That is pretty much a textbook definition of twisting someone's words.[/QUOTE] You should probably stop.

A good structure for prison could be people being forced to do labor and then if they're found not guilty after X amount of years the state would be forced to pay compound interest of like 10% for every year worked. That way the justice branch would have to be very sure someone's guilty otherwise the more time goes by, the more of a penalty the state will have to pay. Plus, if a person is guilty, he will just keep on working and producing things so that his/her prison maintenance cost can be lowered. This could resolve the need for executing people based on the cost of prisoner maintenance.