Trump in ‘excellent health,’ according to his presidential fitness exam
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[QUOTE=aydin690;53053892]In that report he's listed as 6'3" and 236 lbs which conveniently makes him over weight and not obese. There's no way he's only 236 lbs.[/QUOTE]
I mean, I guess it's possible? I'm 6'2"/6'3" and 150 lbs. and I'm a fuckin' bean-pole, so just an extra 80 lbs or so on a frame that tall would end up roughly like that I think?
[QUOTE=aydin690;53053892]In that report he's listed as 6'3" and 236 lbs which conveniently makes him over weight and not obese. There's no way he's only 236 lbs.[/QUOTE]
Where do you have that from? As far as I can tell, we have no specifics from the new physical, and those numbers are [URL=http://time.com/5102145/trump-health-report/]from 2016, by his own physician Dr. Harold Bornstein[/URL].
Honestly, I don't even think he looks obese. Just dismissing this new report as fake because it disagrees with what you think is crazy. Yes it's suspicious that they didn't release anything other than [I]"everything is excellent"[/I] but that doesn't mean it's an outright lie. Maybe it's an exaggeration, or maybe the doctor said it relatively to his age. It's the same doctor who examined Obama, after all. Just saying [I]"no way, just look at him"[/I] isn't good enough.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;53054041]Where do you have that from? As far as I can tell, we have no specifics from the new physical, and those numbers are [URL="http://time.com/5102145/trump-health-report/"]from 2016, by his own physician Dr. Harold Bornstein[/URL].
[B]Honestly, I don't even think he looks obese.[/B] Just dismissing this new report as fake because it disagrees with what you think is crazy. Yes it's suspicious that they didn't release anything other than [I]"everything is excellent"[/I] but that doesn't mean it's an outright lie. Maybe it's an exaggeration, or maybe the doctor said it relatively to his age. It's the same doctor who examined Obama, after all. Just saying [I]"no way, just look at him"[/I] isn't good enough.[/QUOTE]
Took you seriously until this point. "No just look at him" applies when the guy has a stomach and love handles that literally hang over his belt when golfing.
The reason he doesn't usually appear obese is because he's got suits with really wide shoulders that make him look sleek.
Same guy that examined Obama or not, look at the health report posted last page, and compare that to just "excellent health"
[QUOTE=EcksDee;53054083]Took you seriously until this point. "No just look at him" applies when the guy has a stomach and love handles that literally hang over his belt when golfing.
The reason he doesn't usually appear obese is because he's got suits with really wide shoulders that make him look sleek.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he looks overweight. Admittedly I may not have an accurate mental image of what an overweight person looks like compared to an obese person. But I don't think the way he looks in pictures is enough to dispute the weight they put in the report.
[QUOTE]Same guy that examined Obama or not, look at the health report posted last page, and compare that to just "excellent health"[/QUOTE]
Like I said, that sucks and is suspicious. But isn't Ronny Jackson going to be presenting details tomorrow?
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;53054098]Yeah, he looks overweight. Admittedly I may not have an accurate mental image of what an overweight person looks like compared to an obese person. But I don't think the way he looks in pictures is enough to dispute the weight they put in the report.
Like I said, that sucks and is suspicious. But isn't Ronny Jackson going to be presenting details tomorrow?[/QUOTE]
So we assume. He may offer nothing but generalized statements if the President has told him to not divulge any specifics from his tests.
Apparently Trump is 6'3 and weighs around 240 pounds.
Bull. Fucking. Shit. I'm like an inch shorter, weigh around that much and I don't look as fat as Trump does.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53057642]Apparently Trump is 6'3 and weighs around 240 pounds.
Bull. Fucking. Shit. I'm like an inch shorter, weigh around that much and I don't look as fat as Trump does.[/QUOTE]
For all we know he probably rivals Taft in the weight department.
maybe all Trump's clothes just fit him like a fucking garbage bag so he looks way fatter?
i mean maybe he just thinks tailored clothes cut off the circulation to your brain or something, it makes about as much sense as exercise being a waste of his finite life energy
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;53057686][media]https://twitter.com/potpourri72/status/953372578290188288[/media]
kneelgate, meet lardgate.[/QUOTE]
Okay to be fair a toned 240 looks very different from a fat 240, that’s not exactly fair.
But there’s no way trump is 240. I’m at 265 (fml) and I don’t look like a macaroon
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53057642]Apparently Trump is 6'3 and weighs around 240 pounds.
Bull. Fucking. Shit. I'm like an inch shorter, weigh around that much and I don't look as fat as Trump does.[/QUOTE]
see with any other president nobody would give a shit but because trump lies about the most basic of basic shit we can't trust him on anything.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53057642]Apparently Trump is 6'3 and weighs around 240 pounds.[/QUOTE]
Thing in the op says 6'1" which seems to be corroborated with this:
[t]https://i.imgur.com/T7AaIKB.jpg[/t]
After a quick search it seems Obama is 6'1" too.
I want to see Trump naked so badly.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53057642]Apparently Trump is 6'3 and weighs around 240 pounds.
Bull. Fucking. Shit. I'm like an inch shorter, weigh around that much and I don't look as fat as Trump does.[/QUOTE]
In his defence, being old makes you extra flabby. Things just hang more if you're old as shit, like he is.
he is literally the modern representation of gluttony. him not being fat just doesn't exist in any timeline
[QUOTE=Swiket;53058178]I want to see Trump naked so badly.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/18/12538672/nude-donald-trump-statues-union-square-los-angeles-indecline"]Your wish, my command[/URL]
[editline]17th January 2018[/editline]
I should clarify NSFW and all that jazz
[video=youtube;-n_4YQ2ozY4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n_4YQ2ozY4[/video]
As Colbert points out, Trump's reported height and weight from his physical [U]conveniently[/U] place him exactly one pound short of qualifying as obese. :thinking:
Surprised the details of the exam weren't posted yet considering they were about Trump's obvious need for exercise and also a cognitive test for dementia.
[QUOTE](Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump passed a test for signs of dementia and is in overall excellent health, but needs to shed weight by cutting calories, fats and carbohydrates and starting a daily exercise routine, the White House physician said on Tuesday.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1F52OR?__twitter_impression=true"]Source[/URL]
Can't take any of this seriously sense they obviously lied about his weight and likely his height. Just to get him under on the BMI scale, 6'3 239 being exactly 29.9 and there being pictures of him being the same height of obama and comparisons of others weighing 239 at 6'3.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/16/doctor-says-trump-is-6-3-239-pounds-and-the-internet-has-so-many-athlete-comparisons/[/URL]
[media]https://twitter.com/AlamoOnTheRise/status/953420120797384704[/media]
I did notice the shoes, but he isn't wearing 2 inch heals, and trumps license has him listed at 6'2. Its just extremely obvious the the numbers and likely everything else isn't accurate. If you lie about one thing you're likely lying about everything else.
Trump would lose it if he had the title "obese"
Lmao. People attacking the doctor even tho he was Obama's doctor too.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;53057741]Okay to be fair a toned 240 looks very different from a fat 240, that’s not exactly fair.
But there’s no way trump is 240. I’m at 265 (fml) and I don’t look like a macaroon[/QUOTE]
Let me throw another wrench into this:
[IMG]https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2013/arnold-profile-1.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE]Height: 6'2"
Competition Weight: Around 235 lbs.[/QUOTE]
That puts him at a 30.2 "Obese" BMI
So how is Cooper Helfet 6'3" and 239 in this picture:
[media]https://twitter.com/potpourri72/status/953372578290188288[/media]
with this physique?
People's body compositions will vary. Fat isn't always stored subcutaneously and BMI is a bad tool used to measure body composition. By the way, Cooper Helfet is technically "Overweight", 2lbs away from being obese. This shows how preposterous the BMI scale is.
I just can't wrap my head around how they could have gotten the doctor to lie. He's not a Trump goon, and he was around when this was done right and presumably honestly. Yet, now he's just going along with it when Trump asks him to risk his credibility as a doctor because Trump would rather be 'one pound short of obese' rather than 'obese'? I'm not saying it's impossible, it just sounds like a lot of effort for a lie that's even more meaningless than we're used to.
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;53059154]Look at the shoes.
According to Google, Trump is a little over an inch taller.
Definitely not buying the weight though, but it's also rather stupid how people are posting buff 30 year olds and comparing their weight and looks to a 71 year old.[/QUOTE]
What about when you compare him to Jeb who is actually 6ft 3.
Please also note ted cruz is 5 10
[IMG]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1360/8937/files/GOP-HEIGHT_grande.jpg[/IMG]
I demand to see the presidents long form health report
[QUOTE=Raidyr;53059254]I demand to see the presidents long form health report[/QUOTE]
It'll just include the same bogus numbers.
[QUOTE=J!NX;53049664][t]https://thedailybanter.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_80%2Cw_1280/MTQxNTQyNzA2Njc2NTA4MjYy/trump_golfing_fat_assjpg.jpg[/t][t]http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/57fe44d0918a0fb21bae6d90-1190-625/everything-we-know-about-trumps-unhealthy-diet.jpg[/t][t]https://healthyceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Donald-Trump-having-a-Dominos-Pizza.jpg[/t][t]http://www.fitbiz.in/wp-content/uploads/donald-trump-unhealthy-diet.jpg[/t][t]http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/RTX1ODUB-1-e1481310237845.jpg[/t][t]https://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/08/10/55c9162e169027501c6f2517_ss02-candidates-eating-donald-trump.jpg[/t][t]https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/02/06/104264083-GettyImages-613824790.530x298.jpg?v=1486396636[/t]
The diet of a healthy man[/QUOTE]
Eating "unhealthy" food doesnt directly make you unhealthy necessarily as long as hes getting all of the nutrients he needs, and being a little bit overweight isnt an indicator of very poor health either. I'm sure Trump's health claims are exaggerated but in his defense he isn't looking too bad for 71.
Can anyone [I]actually[/I] make a case for why Trump's medical report would he faked that isn't simply "Well, he doesn't [I]look[/I] healthy"?
We can't afford to grasp at straws no matter which aide we're on. It doesn't hurt the other side, it hurts [I]everybody,[/I] and in an era of uncertainty and confusion we can't afford for political discourse to get any worse.
Edit: Here's the full text of Trump's medical exam as reported by Ronny Jackson in a pres briefing. I hate to be that guy who posts a giant wall of text but I'm not going to let any of you hide from this.
[QUOTE] Good afternoon, everyone. All right, so to start with, what I’m going to do is I’m going to read to you the summary of the President’s physical. And so I’ll just read through this, and then after I’m done reading this, immediately after the brief, we’ll make this available to everyone exactly as I read it here. And then I’ll take a few questions.
So to start with: President Donald J. Trump has completed his first periodic physical examination as President of the United States. I performed and supervised the examination with appropriate specialty consultations and diagnostic testing.
The exam was conducted January 12, 2018, at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. The purpose of the exam was to provide the public with an update of the President’s current health status and to ensure the President continues to enjoy all the benefits of good health.
This examination focused on evidence-based health screening and disease prevention. With President Trump’s consent, I release the following health information.
Vitals as follows:
Age: 71 years and 7 months at the time of the exam.
Height: 75 inches.
Weight: 239 pounds.
Resting heart rate: 68.
Blood pressure: 122/74.
Pulse oximetry: 99 percent on room air.
Temperature was 98.4.
Physical examination, by system, to include any studies that were done, by system:
Eyes: The President’s uncorrected physical acuity is 20/30 bilaterally with corrected visual acuity of 20/20 bilaterally. His visual fields were normal. Funduscopic exam was normal bilaterally. His intraocular pressures were normal, and no ocular pathology was discovered.
Head, ears, nose, and throat: Normal exam of the head, ears, nose, mouth, and throat.
Dental exam: He has healthy teeth and gums. There were no other dental findings.
Neck: Normal thyroid exam. No noted lymphadenopathy. Auscultation of his carotid arteries were normal.
Pulmonary exam: His lungs were clear to auscultation. A screening low-dose CT of the chest demonstrated no pulmonary pathology.
Cardiac exam: Heart exam was normal. Regular rhythm. No murmurs or other abnormal heart sounds were noted. His ECG, or commonly EKG, was normal sinus rhythm with a rate of 71, had a normal axis, and no other significant findings.
He had a transthoracic echocardiogram done, which demonstrated normal left ventricular systolic function, an ejected fraction of 60 to 65 percent, normal left ventricular chamber size and wall thickness, no wall motion abnormalities, his right ventricle was normal, his atria were grossly normal, and all valves were normal.
He had an exercise stress echocardiogram done, which demonstrated above-average exercise capacity based on age and sex, and a normal heart rate, blood pressure, and cardiac output response to exercise. He had no evidence of ischemia, and his wall motion was normal in all images.
Gastrointestinal exam: He had a normal exam, no masses, no hepatomegaly or splenomegaly. He had a normal optical colonoscopy done in 2013 — June of 2013 — that demonstrated no polyps or abnormal findings. And because of that, a repeat colonoscopy was not indicated at this time and will be deferred until his next periodic physical exam.
Genitourinary exam was normal. Extremities and musculoskeletal — normal throughout. Full range of motion in all joints. He had strong distal pulses and good capillary refill in all extremities. He had no swelling or edema.
Neurological exam: examination of the cranial nerves, cerebellar function, deep tendon reflexes, motor function, and sensory system were all normal.
A cognitive screening exam using the Montreal Cognitive Assessment was normal, with a score of 30 over 30.
Dermatologic exam: normal. No evidence of melanoma, basal cell carcinoma, squamous cell carcinoma, or any other significant dermatologic diseases.
I’m going to very briefly go over some of the labs here that I feel are most important — most providers would be interested in and then you can look at the details when I put out the written.
But laboratory results summarized: A lipid panel. He had a total cholesterol of 223. Triglycerides of 129. HDL of 67. An LDL cholesterol of 143. And his total cholesterol to HDL ratio is 3.3.
His complete blood count, to include his white blood cell count, his hemoglobin, hematocrit, and platelet count were all normal. And the values are on the written copy you’ll get.
His extended metabolic panel, as follows: His fasting blood glucose was 89. His BUN was 19. His creatinine was 0.98; indicators of his renal function. His liver enzymes: His ALT was 27; his AST was 19 — normal. His hemoglobin A1c was 5 percent. His vitamin D was 20. His PSA was 0.12. And his thyroid screen with the TSH was 1.76. He had a urinalysis done that was clear and had no evidence of protein, ketones, glucose, or blood.
His past medical history includes hypercholesterolemia and rosacea.
His past surgical history: had an appendectomy at age 11.
His social history: He has no past or present use of alcohol. No past or present use of tobacco.
His medications, as follows: He takes Crestor, 10 milligrams daily to lower his cholesterol. He takes aspirin, 81 milligrams daily, for cardiac health. He takes Propecia, 1 milligram daily, for prevention of male-pattern hair loss. He takes Soolantra Cream, as needed, for Rosacea. And he takes a multivitamin each day for health maintenance.
Immunizations: The President, during his physical exam, had a Prevnar 13 immunization to prevent pneumococcal pneumonia and he had Number 2 dose of his Twinrix to prevent hepatitis A and B. His routine vaccinations, to include his seasonal influenza are all up to date, and all indicated travel vaccinations are up to date.
In summary: The President’s overall health is excellent. His cardiac performance during his physical exam was very good. He continues to enjoy the significant long-term cardiac and overall health benefits that come from a lifetime of abstinence from tobacco and alcohol.
We discussed diet, exercise, and weight-loss. He would benefit from a diet that is lower in fat and carbohydrates, and from a routine exercise regimen. He has a history of elevated cholesterol and is currently in a low dose of Crestor.
In order to further reduce his cholesterol level and further decrease his cardiac risk, we will increase the dose of this particular medication. The President is currently up to date on all recommended preventive medicine and screening tests and exams.
All clinical data indicates that the President is currently very healthy and that he will remain so for the duration of his presidency. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;53059461]Can anyone [I]actually[/I] make a case for why Trump's medical report would he faked that isn't simply "Well, he doesn't [I]look[/I] healthy"?[/QUOTE]
Because Trump is obsessed with ratings and appearance, constantly lies about everything and has a need to be the best.
Being listed as obese would not fit with Trump's belief system.
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