• FortressCraft sells $1.5 million worth on Xbox Live, but Microsoft hasn't paid the developer a singl
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[QUOTE=Map in a box;32367277]it takes time to release big updates. You cant expect for them to finish the, say, adventure update in 1 day.[/QUOTE] But thats the thing. Its not just the time it takes to update its also the content in the update. The adventure update wasn't even that big especially when you consider how much easier it is to make content for minecraft then it is for more complex games. [QUOTE=asteroidrules;32367312]Have you played or seen infiniminer gameplay?[/QUOTE] Yes have you?
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;32366470]Yea but blocks is practically all classic minecraft is about. Minecraft classic is practically infiminer.[/QUOTE] Have you played or seen infiniminer gameplay?
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;32366470]Yea but blocks is practically all classic minecraft is about. Minecraft classic is practically infiminer.[/QUOTE] Yes, because Minecraft Classic is all Minecraft is.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32367356]Wow.. did it really make that much money? So many idiots on Xbox live.[/QUOTE] At least this is only 3 dollars while notch's-retarded-cash-cow is 20 euros.
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;32367350]Yes, because Minecraft Classic is all Minecraft is.[/QUOTE] Sure it got changed but thats the thing it started out as an infiminer copier just like how fortresscraft is starting out as a minecraft copier. Sure they might eventually change it but it came from minecraft just like minecraft came from infiminer.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;32367388]Sure it got changed but thats the thing it started out as an infiminer copier just like how fortresscraft is starting out as a minecraft copier. Sure they might eventually change it but it came from minecraft just like minecraft came from infiminer.[/QUOTE] Minecraft started out copying only infiniminer's basics: blocks, 3d, firstperson. Fortresscraft started by stealing everything from minecraft classic.
The problem isn't that he copied minecraft in itself - shit's bound to happen anyway, notch has created a new genre. The problems are that, first, the game brings nothing new to the idea. A game like Terraria takes the minecraft idea (I'm talking about minecraft and infiniminer because of these two games MC is technically the most achieved so far) and gives it a large twist by making it 2D and with a gameplay much more action based than just building/mining based. Fortresscraft brings nothing new to the idea and just blatantly copies the (free) minecraft creative mode. But this isn't a real problem alone, why shit hits the fan is because the creator never mentions Minecraft, never gives any credit to Notch, and basically never admits his game is copied and taken from Notch - he acts like it's fresh, new, and has a right to exist as the novelty game that it's not. The guy would get much more recognition and much more respect if he stopped being a selfish dick and admitted he just wanted to make a creative mode for the 360 for people to have fun with (but the game is so broken it hurts). Also, Notch probably already knows this game exist, probably tried it thanks to demo versions and I really doubts he even cares, especially since he doesn't care about piracy in the first place. Plus, he said once he was eventually going to release Minecraft in open source when he'll feel nothing more can be added by his own hands, which is pretty much accepting theft and huge copy-cats.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;32367303]-snip- The adventure update wasn't even that big especially when you consider how much easier it is to make content for minecraft then it is for more complex games.[/QUOTE] Do I even have to explain how stupid that is?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32367419]Minecraft started out copying only infiniminer's basics: blocks, 3d, firstperson.[/QUOTE] Yea but that practically all there was about minecraft classic. Besides infiminer not looking as good and having a few special blocks they are pretty much the same. [QUOTE=Map in a box;32367446]Do I even have to explain how stupid that is?[/QUOTE] Compared to other indigame alphas and betas I have been apart of I have seen many updates that were bigger but didn't take as long.
Also, I think in an interview Notch said he made MC as a strategy game first (that's where the small resolution textures come from), but then decided to make it in first person after playing Infiniminer. The game evolved away from it quite fast though. BTW, did you notice Fortresscraft's full name is "Fortresscraft Episode 1 : creation" ? Well don't expect free updates, you'll probably have to pay for every single improvement made on the damn thing. Plus, I really, REALLY doubt he will take any sort of freedom, seeing how shitty the coding already is, I can hardly see him trying anything else than taking what Notch did and remake it (poorly).
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32367513]Also, I think in an interview Notch said he made MC as a strategy game first (that's where the small resolution textures come from), but then decided to make it in first person after playing Infiniminer. The game evolved away from it quite fast though.[/QUOTE] Notch just took the textures for grass and cobblestone from his earlier game, RubyDung, he didn't take the strategy concept.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;32367465]Yea but that practically all there was about minecraft classic. Besides infiminer not looking as good and having a few special blocks they are pretty much the same. Compared to other indigame alphas and betas I have been apart of I have seen many updates that were bigger but didn't take as long.[/QUOTE] Yes because every game is the same with the same team, the same goal, the same everything, so they have the same release update speed. Especially for different update sizes, such as an adventure update or bug fixes with minor additions.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;32367571]Yes because every game is the same with the same team, the same goal, the same everything, so they have the same release update speed[/quote] Well you would expect it to update faster since they are making so much money off of it and since minecraft is an easier game to add content to then most[quote]Especially for different update sizes, such as an adventure update or bug fixes with minor additions.[/QUOTE] I already said this before. From my experience other games have updated with [b]bigger updates[/b] more frequently. The adventure update wasn't really that big. Besides the new random generation add ones the rest wasn't really shouldn't be that hard to add. Instead of rating me box read my whole post.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32367419]Minecraft started out copying only infiniminer's basics: blocks, 3d, firstperson. Fortresscraft started by stealing everything from minecraft classic.[/QUOTE] So, blocks, 3d, a first person camera [B]and an inventory[/B]. I see the difference.
they're both shit
[QUOTE=layla;32368280]they're both shit[/QUOTE] You're shit (I'm not gonna make a better argument, not worth it)
At least manic digger had a more original name.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;32358878]Ha, karma is a bitch.[/QUOTE] Not really when considering he built the damn thing from the ground up :v: Unlike Notch who actually took an engine already in use.
I'll wait for Microsoft's response. There is probably a clause in the contract stating he will only get paid at the end of the fiscal year.
[QUOTE=5killer;32368468]I'll wait for Microsoft's response. There is probably a clause in the contract stating he will only get paid at the end of the fiscal year.[/QUOTE] I would not care if I had a one million dollar check on the way but I had to wait a year. The money is coming eventually, and a lot sooner than it would have if I didn't somehow manage to earn a million dollar damn check man I'm jealous
How to play Fortresscraft for free: Put a texturepack on Minecraft classic Connect Xbox controller to PC ??? Profit
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;32369054]How to play Fortresscraft for free: Put a texturepack on Minecraft classic Connect Xbox controller to PC ??? Profit[/QUOTE] The only thing you will miss is easy-to-code shaders, which you can just find on the web.
He will get paid later, why jump to conclusions so quickly? Why are you people so convinced that everyone outside your home is evil? The guy that made the game is the real asshole in all of this anyway, at least when Notch stole a game's concept he put work into it, while this asshole has made a shitty job.
[QUOTE=Rocket;32369205]I don't see Mojang's name anywhere in the credits.[/QUOTE] That's because mojang isn't a person.
[QUOTE=Rocket;32369243]Urhm, Notch used LWJGL, and this guy used XNA [editline]19th September 2011[/editline] Names don't have the be just for people[/QUOTE] Don't lie. [editline]19th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rocket;32369243]Urhm, Notch used LWJGL, and this guy used XNA [editline]19th September 2011[/editline] Names don't have the be just for people[/QUOTE] [editline]19th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=KingstonCEO;32369264]Don't lie. [editline]19th September 2011[/editline][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cone;32358329]While it does suck that it's just a Minecraft clone - and that, from what I've heard, the creator of this game is a raging asshat - it's still a real dick move not to pay this dude.[/QUOTE] he hacked together a shit game to profit off the popularity of someone else's game they made on a different platform now he's eventually going to be a millionaire ....nope, I don't think I can feel sorry for this guy.
[QUOTE=Rocket;32369312]Someone steals your game. Gets run over by a car. ...nope, I don't think I can feel sorry for him. (The point is, you're a dick)[/QUOTE] Get lost mate, you're the real dick here. This is the internet, free speach, we dont do your communist thing.
The fags don't deserve any penny that they get off of that ripoff.
[QUOTE=Rocket;32369449]Think. They made a game, completely from scratch, that has the same gameplay as minecraft. Basically, notch would be the "Ideas Guy" in this project, and everyone else is "smart people". (Not saying notch isn't smart. Just saying that the only thing notch did with this game is come up with the idea)[/QUOTE] Yet everyone else says "WELL IF FORTRESSCRAFT RIPPED OFF OF MINECRAFT, THEN MINECRAFT RIPPED OFF OF INFINIMINER (inaudible bullshit". So apparently people can take people's ideas and get away with it? That's bull.
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