"I think women have vaginas; I think you call a person with a vagina a woman." Penny Arcade's Gabe s
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[QUOTE=Xubs;41117971]Maybe I'm just done with dealing with you kind of people? Do you realize I have to deal with people just as bad as you and Lambda all the time?[/QUOTE]
We are so bad I'm sure.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41115298]He's being an ass by antagonising people; though they're being stupid for being atagonised.
They should both shut the fuck up and go home.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I wish you could get single posts in threads highlighted and put up at the top of every single page of the thread so everyone can see it.
[QUOTE=Xubs;41117971]Maybe I'm just done with dealing with you kind of people? Do you realize I have to deal with people just as bad as you and Lambda all the time?[/QUOTE]
Probably people several thousand times worse, too.
[QUOTE=Frisk;41117963]Yes, because somebody making a game on the internet is akin to somebody holding you at knife point.
Fantastic argument.[/QUOTE]
i was more referencing something that had happended to me but alright continue to assume. [URL="http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/4/45/Bristle_nasal_goo_07.mp3"]suits you well.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Xubs;41117971]Maybe I'm just done with dealing with you kind of people? Do you realize I have to deal with people just as bad as you and Lambda all the time?[/QUOTE]
good to know you're still here then, [I]dealing[/I] with us. sure [I]dealt[/I] with me, by telling me there's nothing to be understood about the transgender topic because i'm not one.
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;41117992]Sometimes I wish you could get single posts in threads highlighted and put up at the top of every single page of the thread so everyone can see it.[/QUOTE]
Right you are, it should have ended there.
[editline]20th June 2013[/editline]
And so it shall.
I leave this thread for 1 and 1/2 hours and suddentl 446 new posts oh boy I wonder what happened.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41117975]Uh how about the fact that you accused him of being RACIST/HOMOPHOBIC/TRANSPHOBIC without knowing [B]anything[/B] about him just because he doesn't completely agree with you in every single way.[/QUOTE]
i didn't assume him of a single one of those things, moreso saying that when someone complains about things being "too politically correct" thats usually waht they mean.
I didn't imply he was anything.
all women have vaginas, but not everyone with a vagina is a woman.
and viceversa with penises and all sorts of stuff, i still don't get what the big deal is, he's not ignoring the fact transgendered people exist, it's that to say something like "not all women have vaginas" is something entirely fucking untrue. everyone who is born female has a vagina, but not everyone with a vagina is a woman.
either way people know what the fuck they got on their crotches so what's the big fucking deal.
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;41118017]I leave this thread for 1 and 1/2 hours and suddentl 446 new posts oh boy I wonder what happened.[/QUOTE]
a big argument
[QUOTE=CAS303;41117972]Oh so nobody can criticize political correctness because that automatically makes you a bigot,racist, ect ect. Fantastic way of arguing... please educate us on how much of a bigot we are if we disagree with your opinion.[/QUOTE]
As much as political correctness is a good thing. it does seem to be over reaching beyond what is useful (a chairmen is now to be refereed to as a chair) such that annoyed both genders.
[QUOTE=noneshallpass;41117925]I like your style.
Oh and if anyone actually has questions about being trans hit me up.[/QUOTE]
what does being trans feel like
Oh and if anyone actually wants to know how to address/greet/approach transpeople or questioning people i'll do my best to explain.
Also something that i think is missing is for transpeople, most of us are more aware of statistics and violence and problems experienced from being trans than alot of cispeople so stop asumong please.
These threads always makes me wonder if like 70% of fp is transgender or whatever cause its always the biggest shitstorms
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41118022]i didn't assume him of a single one of those things, moreso saying that when someone complains about things being "too politically correct" thats usually waht they mean.
I didn't imply he was anything.[/QUOTE]
So instead of accusing him of being those things you warned him that he's agreeing with those people, that's barely any different.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41117985]We are so bad I'm sure.[/QUOTE]
you said it was a mental illness, honestly i do not see you getting the moral high ground back any time soon.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;41117976]By saying ignorance is inexcusable you are saying every mistake is an attack. People can't be expected to know if someone is trans immediately upon meeting them, and if they refer to them by their sex accidentally I fail to see how that could be malicious. Every point you've put forward is saying that unless you can somehow magically tell if someone is trans and you call them the wrong thing then you're attacking them. I also disagree completely that 95% of misrepresentations are malicious, because not all ignorance is malicious, and ignorance of the person's transgenderism is entirely likely to make up the majority of the times someone uses the wrong gender. The fact that you act like not knowing someone is trans and calling them the wrong thing is an attack on them is why I told you to get over yourself, because not every time someone calls you the wrong gender is done out of hatred, despite the fact that you act like it is.[/QUOTE]
i don't expect you to know that every trans person you meet is trans the second you meet them? i was saying if you DID know someone was trans and you intentionally called them by their biological sex you were probably doing it to be antagonistic. thats it.
[QUOTE=RobbL;41118033]what does being trans feel like[/QUOTE]
I describe it as constant background noise, you feel out of place and kinda like you're going to throw up. It gets worse the more dysphoria kicks in though.
To be honest there is nothing wrong with political correctness, but there is a problem with the people who just use it as a reason to get offended over nothing.
[QUOTE=Rar;41118030]As much as political correctness is a good thing. it does seem to be over reaching beyond what is useful (a chairmen is now to be refereed to as a chair) such that annoyed both genders.[/QUOTE]
Out of all of the absurdities of political correctness you choose to bring up something minor like that?
Cavalry is here
Transphobia is dumb, antagonizing transgender and transsexual people on the internet is dumber, this thread is dumbest
There
god damn, what a dick. i'm not going to bother participating in this 15 page shit fling (though pro-tip, if you are for whatever reason arguing against transsexual people, you are probably completely wrong), but gabe really should maintain a much more professional attitude. im pretty sure this isn't the first time he's been saying stuff like this.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41118039]So instead of accusing him of being those things you warned him that he's agreeing with those people, that's barely any different.[/QUOTE]
i could see how you got that but it wasn't my intention. more mocking the attitude of "fuck all this politcal correctness!!!" in the first place
sorry i apparently made it look like i was personally insulting him.
[QUOTE=Hellduck;41118040]you said it was a mental illness, honestly i do not see you getting the moral high ground back any time soon.[/QUOTE]
Tbh you could say it's a mental illness, you could say it's not. There's no concrete definition of the word
But yeah since it's offensive it's best to opt for a different term
[QUOTE=Xubs;41118049]I didn't quite mean what I said about the understanding thing, but I can't backpedal now since the damage is already done with you because I know you'll accept no correction at this point
I meant to be more specific[/QUOTE]
you have literally done nothing but insult my intelligence for not knowing more about something i have never had to deal with
A++ you'll achieve equality in no time with that mindset
Lol 15 pages, SH you never fail to keep the debates coming.
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[QUOTE=Skelmech;41118082]i could see how you got that but it wasn't my intention. more mocking the attitude of "fuck all this politcal correctness!!!" in the first place
sorry i apparently made it look like i was personally insulting him.[/QUOTE]
Look I don't have a problem with Political Correctness itself, but people getting Offended over something that was no where near offensive, and certainly wasn't meant with malicious harm is what bothers me.
[QUOTE=RobbL;41118107]Tbh you could say it's a mental illness, you could say it's not. There's no concrete definition of the word
But yeah since it's offensive it's best to opt for a different term[/QUOTE]
Well of course, but we're on an internet board for opinion sharing, so I feel that I'm using it to be constructive and arguing an opinion rather than purposefully being a dick...but no one seems to agree there.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;41118054]i don't expect you to know that every trans person you meet is trans the second you meet them? i was saying if you DID know someone was trans and you intentionally called them by their biological sex you were probably doing it to be antagonistic. thats it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, okay, the way you were going about it before made it seem like you thought not knowing someone is trans and calling them the wrong thing is malicious, hence my posts related to such a mentality.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41118120]Lol 15 pages wow SH you never fail to keep the debates coming.[/QUOTE]
'ahahahahahaha ..just another day in SH LOL! :D'
this is literally extremely annoying. if you aren't gonna contribute, then cease
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