[QUOTE=Contag;33748615]how was that?[/QUOTE]
he's done quite a lot of works defending trotsky and was pretty politically active as a marxist back in the 80's and 90's.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzibM98Zvyo[/media]
R.I.P. Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
You were not always agreeable and you were not always correct but your mind was free and that's a lot more than a lot of other people get.
Fuck, fuck, FUCK!
All of you read [url=http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/01/hitchens-201201]this[/url]. It's probably the last article he wrote. It was published a week ago. And the man is now dead.
SHIT!
Sad to see him die like this, but he was still doing speeches and debates with severe cancer until relatively recently. You really have to admire his commitment to his work
R.I.P.
Passing of a legend and a personal hero...
Always thought he was a kinda horrible person but still sad, cancer's shitty. Nobody deserves to go out like that :(
knew it was coming, but I still can't believe it
[editline]16th December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=TH89;33749127]Always thought he was a kinda horrible person but still sad, cancer's shitty. Nobody deserves to go out like that :([/QUOTE]
how was he a horrible person
[editline]16th December 2011[/editline]
I'm sorry man but it doesn't exactly make you look good if you come into a thread about a dead person and try to look all noble like "oh man, he was such a dickhead but cancer really sucks"
he didn't kill anyone, he didn't rape anyone, he didn't fucking hurt anyone, he simply used logic and reason in the face of idiocy
[quote]I do remember lying there and looking down at my naked torso, which was covered almost from throat to navel by a vivid red radiation rash. This was the product of a month-long bombardment with protons which had burned away all of the cancer in my clavicular and paratracheal nodes, as well as the original tumor in the esophagus. This put me in a rare class of patients who could claim to have received the highly advanced expertise uniquely available at the stellar Zip Code of MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. To say that the rash hurt would be pointless. The struggle is to convey the way that it hurt on the inside. I lay for days on end, trying in vain to postpone the moment when I would have to swallow. Every time I did swallow, a hellish tide of pain would flow up my throat, culminating in what felt like a mule kick in the small of my back. I wondered if things looked as red and inflamed within as they did without. And then I had an unprompted rogue thought: If I had been told about all this in advance, would I have opted for the treatment? There were several moments as I bucked and writhed and gasped and cursed when I seriously doubted it.[/quote]
jesus fucking christ
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33749149]how was he a horrible person[/QUOTE]
He was a virulent misogynist, among numerous other bigotries, and an ardent supporter of US military violence in the middle east
Interesting guy, sure he will be missed
[QUOTE=TH89;33749238]He was a virulent misogynist, among numerous other bigotries, and an ardent supporter of US military violence in the middle east[/QUOTE]
Got anything to back that up? Not saying you're lying I just want some sources.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;33749358]Got anything to back that up? Not saying you're lying I just want some sources.[/QUOTE]
Hitchens did support the Iraq War and was very influential in that regard, unfortunately. He also supported waterboarding if I'm not mistaken, though he changed his stance after experiencing it himself.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;33749358]Got anything to back that up? Not saying you're lying I just want some sources.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701?printable=true¤tPage=all[/url]
for instance
[QUOTE=Contag;33749432][url]http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701?printable=true¤tPage=all[/url]
for instance[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. Although I only read like the first two paragraphs because I'm a lazy fuck.
US military violence
as opposed to US military peace? US military diplomacy?
[QUOTE=Contag;33749432][url]http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701?printable=true¤tPage=all[/url]
for instance[/QUOTE]
that just seems like some pretty light-hearted shit
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33749515]that just seems like some pretty light-hearted shit[/QUOTE]
you mean other than saying that for a female comedian to be funny they had to either be Jewish, fat or a dyke?
or a fat jew dyke for maximum hilarity?
[editline]16th December 2011[/editline]
Anyhow, this thread shouldn't be about what he did wrong in his life.
Although he did things that I disagree with, he presented a far greater amount of intellectual rigor than most public figures, and that's to be admired. He was happy with his life, and at the end of the day, that's really all that counts on an individual level.
[QUOTE=Contag;33749432][url]http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701?printable=true¤tPage=all[/url]
for instance[/QUOTE]
That is surprisingly stupid.
[QUOTE=Contag;33749532]you mean other than saying that for a female comedian to be funny they had to either be Jewish, fat or a dyke?
or a fat jew dyke for maximum hilarity?[/QUOTE]
I agree that was pretty comically offensive, I still don't think he's being serious at all in that article though
I mean, if you look at this unrelated quote by him:
[quote=Hitchens][Organised religion] is the main source of hatred in the world, violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children.[/quote]
clearly suggesting that he thinks being contemptuous of women is a terrible thing
anyway, I also agree that this thread shouldn't be about what he did wrong in his life, I mean clearly he got things wrong (even he admitted he changed his stance on certain things), but this thread shouldn't be about that
yeah just skimming that article, i didn't really see it as an attack on woman, but more a light-hearted analysis of gender difference in humour.
the thing is that Hitchens probably realised (and never gave a fuck) that people would complain about him after his death, so I realise that defending his memory is kind of futile
No idea who this is.
It's fucking sickening that these evangelist assholes are retaliating to the #GodIsNotGreat with "#GodIsGreat RT Christopher Hitchens is now in hell."
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;33749751]It's fucking sickening that these evangelist assholes are retaliating to the #GodIsNotGreat with "#GodIsGreat RT Christopher Hitchens is now in hell."[/QUOTE]
It's immensely relieving to know that Hitchens is not inconvenienced by them in the slightest
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33749776]It's immensely relieving to know that Hitchens is not inconvenienced by them in the slightest[/QUOTE]
Yeah, everyone keeps posting "rest in peace" but that is going directly against everything he was about.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;33749785]Yeah, everyone keeps posting "rest in peace" but that is going directly against everything he was about.[/QUOTE]
That phrase isn't limited to afterlives. One could see the cessation of existence as peace.
Oh god, waking up to this on a Friday morning. I fucking loved Hitchens. I knew he was gonna go soon, but not this early. RIP.
At least he expected it. :(
[QUOTE=Bean Shoot;33749857]That phrase isn't limited to afterlives. One could see the cessation of existence as peace.[/QUOTE]
No greater peace than the complete lack of sensory input of any kind.
Something tells me someone is going to call this "An act of god".
R.I.P
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