Terminally ill artist holds party before ending life under California's new assisted dying law - Polidicks

Our most fundamental right should be the right to suicide. No one chooses to be born.

This is disturbing.

[QUOTE=CroGamer002;50873389]This is disturbing.[/QUOTE] How? Because she died happy instead of a miserable wreck that can barely function?

[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50872614]Its basically a funeral except the host is still alive Neat[/QUOTE] I hope they listened to Oingo Boingo

What would you called your final party ??? Maybe 'Time to fly' party

if I had a terminal illness and wished to terminate, I think I would use a pure mixture of nitrous oxide. would give me a final trip as I disassociate into the afterlife.

If you're new to the idea of this, I'd very much recommend watching How To Die in Oregon. It's on Netflix, and it really shows you why the option to take these drugs if you're diagnosed with something terminal is a good thing. It's an escape if things take a turn for the worse. Many patients who get the drugs for ending their life actually wind up not using it. There's no need to take them if you feel like you're recovering and feel like you can keep going. However, they'll still be there if your illness leaves you unable to be cured and renders you to excruciating pain even under the heaviest doses of morphine.

[QUOTE=exhale77;50873382]Our most fundamental right should be the right to suicide. No one chooses to be born.[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is anyone thats depressed, or in a hard situation that thinks suicide is the answer, we should just let them kill themselves.

[QUOTE=duckmaster;50874167]So what you're saying is anyone thats depressed, or in a hard situation that thinks suicide is the answer, we should just let them kill themselves.[/QUOTE] We're talking about terminal illness. Don't jump to conclusions.

[QUOTE=exhale77;50873382]Our most fundamental right should be the right to suicide. No one chooses to be born.[/QUOTE] I guess that's one way of clearing out depression

We're talking about terminal illnesses, people

I'm not so sure I'd go as far to call it a 'right' but in cases of terminal illness and where someone is in constant physical pain, they should have the option to kill themselves. It sounds strange to me to call it a 'right' but I guess if that's what gets the idea across and allows it in cases like this, then so be it. EDIT: It's also kind of shitty to say something like this will make suicide in cases of mental illness or depression or whatever legal; obviously no-one wants that and it seems pretty ridiculous to try and equate a case like this to depression in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;50874208]We're talking about terminal illnesses, people[/QUOTE] Hes clearly not just talking about terminal illnesses, I agree that someone who is minutes away from months of suffering should have the choice.

[QUOTE=duckmaster;50874238]Hes clearly not just talking about terminal illnesses, I agree that someone who is minutes away from months of suffering should have the choice.[/QUOTE] Oh come on. He obviously is.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50874245]Oh come on. He obviously is.[/QUOTE] I don't know man, there's a lot of people who think the depressed should be able to off themselves as they please.

[QUOTE=matt000024;50872892]This is one problem here. Doctors aren't always accurate with you "have X months to live." Personally know people who've been in that situation and have had complete recoveries. They're worried about old people or ill people who aren't ready to stop living thinking they are a burden due to their caretakers who may cause them to make a choice they don't really want. [editline]12th August 2016[/editline] Yeah, but ancient Rome was also a shithole in many ways.[/QUOTE] Yeah but in this case she was going to die whether it was 6 months or 2 years from now. ALS (Lou Gehrigs's disease) is in no way recoverable and your condition will continue to worsen until your body shuts itself down. My uncle died from it and it's a fucking awful way to go. [editline]12th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50874245]Oh come on. He obviously is.[/QUOTE] It's really not obvious considering he said something as general as "Our most fundamental right should be the right to suicide. No one chooses to be born." While I agree with that [I]concept[/I], in practice it's sketchy - if your reason is because you're depressed, you shouldn't be allowed because there's likely an underlying mental issue.

[QUOTE=Tsyolin;50872726]Wait were the people still there when she took the drug? Can't imagine how it would feel to watch a friend die like that even if it's what they wanted.[/QUOTE] It feels like they are there, they go to sleep, then they arent there anymore and what is left is a corpse of them. it sucks, like it feels really really bad... but its better then to see your friend inside a corpse over the course of weeks to months... [editline]13th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=DeEz;50874198]I guess that's one way of clearing out depression[/QUOTE] keeping people around while they clearly dont want to be imo is torture... everyone has a dip and even some depressed people still on average want to live more then be dead... but some do want to be dead. and should be given that option.

Gosh that would be weird to attend, and to host. Just because it's not the norm.. I mean maybe in 100 years it'll be the "thing to do" and will blend seamlessly into a funeral. It would just all feel so.. final. Huh, what a trip. No reason to stop her, though, ALS is horrible and I certainly understand her choosing to slip away the way she did.

[QUOTE=clutch2;50877183]Gosh that would be weird to attend, and to host. Just because it's not the norm.. I mean maybe in 100 years it'll be the "thing to do" and will blend seamlessly into a funeral. It would just all feel so.. final. Huh, what a trip. No reason to stop her, though, ALS is horrible and I certainly understand her choosing to slip away the way she did.[/QUOTE] The thing im wondering is, what kind of gifts do you bring to a party for someone that wont live trough the next day? The Heqa staff, Sekhem Scepter and Flail of Tutankhamun?

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50877311]The thing im wondering is, what kind of gifts do you bring to a party for someone that wont live trough the next day? The Heqa staff, Sekhem Scepter and Flail of Tutankhamun?[/QUOTE] Food and drink, I'd say. If I was gonna have one of these parties I'd want an off-license's worth of booze for everybody.

I wish my grandparents went like this. When they wanted, surrounded by their loved ones. Well, one just dropped dead during breakfast so that was painless and fast, but the rest of them lied on hospital beds for months with so much shit being pumped into them they didn't even know they existed anymore. And then they died when nobody was around.

[QUOTE=Timof2009;50872312]Some people are against it because they believe that killing a person is murder regardless of circumstances or reasoning. It is a very complicated moral question. Should we let a person with ALS suffer for months in a slow and agonising death or do we end their life a pain free as possible? Should the Sanctity of life be respected or should we just understand that we'll all die anyway so it doesn't matter?[/QUOTE] It's basically a simple logic for those that have a hard time coming up with their own conclusions.

[QUOTE=ThePuska;50872686]The person is required to take the drug themselves; the doctor is not administering the drug or killing them so it's not even assisted suicide.[/QUOTE] This is the definition of assisted suicide. If the doctor administered the drug it becomes euthanasia. How can you say it isn't suicide because the person is doing it themselves? Isn't that what makes it suicide in the first place?

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;50872837]You'd think a disability rights group would be in support of disabled people having more rights[/QUOTE] Normally yes, but people REALLY fuck over the severely disabled for some reason.

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50877311]The thing im wondering is, what kind of gifts do you bring to a party for someone that wont live trough the next day? The Heqa staff, Sekhem Scepter and Flail of Tutankhamun?[/QUOTE] A Seagate hard drive?

[QUOTE=clutch2;50877183]Gosh that would be weird to attend, and to host. Just because it's not the norm.. I mean maybe in 100 years it'll be the "thing to do" and will blend seamlessly into a funeral. It would just all feel so.. final. Huh, what a trip. No reason to stop her, though, ALS is horrible and I certainly understand her choosing to slip away the way she did.[/QUOTE] Booze. And steak. Quality steak.

This bill was passed a while ago. It's very good in my opinion.