ISIS decides to give the world more reason to hate them: ISIS release another video of Mass Executio - Polidicks

if i could i would beat the shit out of one of the isis pricks and make them suffer

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45580916]John F. Kennedy: The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but that's an idiotic opinion.

You now realize that as cruel as it may seem the ME cannot function without dictatorship because there is no other way to control so many extremist sides. Sure glad Assad was the bad guy now, or that Saddam Hussein was terrorist huh? As asshole-ish those 2 may be, they still did good job controlling the region (Qaddafi included, Libya is mere shadow compared to its past state now). Fun fact is that in both Syria and Iraq conflicts US (and NATO) were involved in destabilizing region, and now everyone is acting shocked. If I said things I'm saying now few years ago everyone would look at me like some lunatic (and some people will perhaps still look at me as one now), but I'm kinda shocked just how naive FP is and how it's blinded thinking pro west propaganda doesn't exist and that west is always right.

Fucking barbarians.

[QUOTE=Aman;45580579]I feel like this is thread deja vu wasn't some of this posted before? Also here's a webm of them killing the POWs they didn't release: [url]http://puu.sh/aD8aZ/11e0a6ea21.webm[/url][/QUOTE] This is fucked, never seen people casually execute another human being. Wow..

[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;45581206]You now realize that as cruel as it may seem the ME cannot function without dictatorship because there is no other way to control so many extremist sides. Sure glad Assad was the bad guy now, or that Saddam Hussein was terrorist huh? As asshole-ish those 2 may be, they still did good job controlling the region (Qaddafi included, Libya is mere shadow compared to its past state now). Fun fact is that in both Syria and Iraq conflicts US (and NATO) were involved in destabilizing region, and now everyone is acting shocked. If I said things I'm saying now few years ago everyone would look at me like some lunatic (and some people will perhaps still look at me as one now), but I'm kinda shocked just how naive FP is and how it's blinded thinking pro west propaganda doesn't exist and that west is always right.[/QUOTE] I agree about Gadaffi. He turned Lybia from a shithole where people lived in tents and travelled by camels, to an oil powerhouse in which he provided free apartments to the population, a free car on marriage, a lot of subsidizations and constructed most of the country's current infrastructure.

[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;45581206]You now realize that as cruel as it may seem the ME cannot function without dictatorship because there is no other way to control so many extremist sides. Sure glad Assad was the bad guy now, or that Saddam Hussein was terrorist huh? As asshole-ish those 2 may be, they still did good job controlling the region (Qaddafi included, Libya is mere shadow compared to its past state now). Fun fact is that in both Syria and Iraq conflicts US (and NATO) were involved in destabilizing region, and now everyone is acting shocked. If I said things I'm saying now few years ago everyone would look at me like some lunatic (and some people will perhaps still look at me as one now), but I'm kinda shocked just how naive FP is and how it's blinded thinking pro west propaganda doesn't exist and that west is always right.[/QUOTE] The big thing is that people in the West are/were largely ignorant to realize and were all "democracy, fuck yeah". But democracy only works if you have a bloc of educated and technically skilled people at the helm who are representing a populace of likewise educated people. It's why Middle Eastern democracy failed, and why American democracy is falling apart. We put a bunch of lawyers in charge who are only good at bullshitting the law, convoluting the system, and cutting themselves a chunk of the action. We need a technocratic democracy.

[QUOTE=Loadingue;45580695]Yes, religion has some relevance, but my question really is: is this happening strictly because of their religion? Or is this not?[/QUOTE] If you believe this is happening only because of religion...get a course in sociology ASAP...the reasons run deeper than just some little book...there is a lot of psychology and economy involved in this, because the social conditions in the middle east make young people seek some kind of adventure or place and they find it in....you guessed, attacking and waging a war, after all, any combat veteran will tell you how he feels among his partners. A dude that is lost has no job no money and his place is falling down will feel like a pro when he hears that he is well received among the ranks of people who were in his situation and now are fighting together towards a goal. Combine an army of blind fanatics who are led by more fanatics (or not) who have combat experience, know logistics and organization and have a clear set of goals which are basically "Fuck shit up and fuck everybody who doesn't agree with us -See: 99% of modern states-" This is the ultimate Middle East FUBAR situation. The fact that his happens in a place where it has a religion that SUPPOSEDLY -and I say it with mayus because almost every top guy in Islam has outspoken against this kind of Jihad- endorses violence against others is just a fucking ugly coincidence. [QUOTE]Youth Bulge Theory is one of the leading theories as to why political instability, war, and revolution occur. Basically, the more young men there are relative to the population size, and the more men there are relative to women, the more politically unstable and warlike a country is. Because, basically, you have a shitload of young men without jobs, no family or familial obligations, a lot of boredom and pent up frustration, and an avenue in the form or either the military or political violence. Which either means you're going to have revolutions and insurrections, or else you're going to need a big army that basically acts as full-time employment for shitloads of people. Basically, lots of young men (which tends to be the case in under developed nations)+low ratio of women+underemployment=fucked up country. [/QUOTE] 1000000% Agree. [QUOTE]How can humans commit such horrific acts against one another? I mean... imagine being murdered. Imagine how you'd kick and scream, cry and beg, do absolutely everything you conceivably could to prevent it from happening. Imagine how you'd despair and gargle on your own blood in your final moments hoping with all that remained of you that you'd wake up from the nightmare and that it wasn't really happening. ... and then imagine that happening 1500 times in a single day. Orchestrated by a single group of people, and carried out on children nonetheless. How can this happen? How can humans do this to each other? I don't understand. What went so wrong?[/QUOTE] We have been doing this day 1. And we are all capable of doing it

[QUOTE=mokkan;45580702]the last picture, what is that thing they are using on the man?[/QUOTE] Looks like a knife to me.

Can we call this genocide yet?

[QUOTE=Hammer7;45580919]They're too busy with Israel and Russia atm.[/QUOTE] and by that you mean just disapprovingly shaking their heads. like that Edmund Burke quote someone posted earlier; nothing is getting done, evil is triumphing.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;45581278]the reasons run deeper than just some little book...[/QUOTE] Some little book? It sounds like you are flicking religion off your shoulder and mitigating blame. When you're trying to figure out why an ideological movement takes place. You have to understand what the ideology is, you need to address the ideology itself when looking at reasons for the movement. If people are willing to brush over the ideology itself, and skip straight to the deeper underlying causes, then they will miss major factors as to why this is happening. You can trace any violent movement back to the baser instincts of human kind or even blame the high number of people with dysfunctional prefrontal cortexs. You can blame economic factors and you can blame broad cultural factors. These are all valid reasons as to why this happens. But don't ignore the ideology itself. Don't pretend that the ideology, Islam in this case, is irrelevant to what is happening in the middle east.

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;45580443]That last pic of the guy getting his head cut off. That pic of the headless girl. Someone please kill these guys.[/QUOTE] But that's mean!!!!!! Seriously, I'm 99% sure that if we airstriked them or something someone would defend them while they're cutting off innocent people's heads.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;45581278] 1000000% Agree.[/QUOTE] Once you hand the businesses and positions out what are the third sons supposed to do? Makes sense when you look at Romania, Italy and China. Maybe even the 60s US. However I think young people are just more rebellious by nature and I really dont think you should ignore religion when it comes to Middle-Eastern politics. Aside from the kurds this is basically how the borders are being drawn.

[QUOTE=Ignhelper;45580383]And by the way, If you think you've watched liveleak and think you can probably go through gory stuff with ease, think again. Because the below link I'm about to give you is fuck up beyond anything I have seen. Its seriously damn fucked up. Scroll down at your own risk. [url]http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56339[/url][/QUOTE] It's moments like these I know I've seen way too much shit on the internet. It doesn't even phase me. Like, I know it's wrong and disgusting, and it brings a hatred like none other to ISIS because it's beyond comprehension how evil these pieces of scum are - but I'm not physically or mentally nauseated by this imagery. Most other people would be, and it bothers me that I'm not. Ironically it bothers me more that I'm not reacting to it than I should be bothered by the images. My mind's just gone numb to this stuff. It sucks.

[QUOTE=Loadingue;45580633]This has probably been covered a thousand times, but has religion really any relevance here? I'm pretty sure this kind of shit (commit mass murders, display severed heads in public, kidnap families, etc) isn't written in the Quran, otherwise people wouldn't follow it. Religion is just their poor excuse, those people are doing it because they're sick.[/QUOTE] Lol so you think that they would do with without a religious reason?

Beheadings are one of the most barbaric, unethical, and downright disturbing forms of violence, so it's no surprise the deplorable ISIS is doing them. There needs to be some serious talks about action, I'm sick of reading and hearing about these barbarians.

wait, so they SAW off your head? Not like just chop it off? fuck man

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;45581165]I think at this point US and Europe are pretty much done with the shit that has been happening in the Middle East and just want them to deal with it themselves, it's sad that this is probably going to be for another century, a certified death zone. People are too blind with religious beliefs and power hunger to see reason there. I can't be surprised by the amount of murdered people anymore.[/QUOTE] We tried though didn't we? A lot of money, effort and collaboration between several nations were put into trying to unfuck the situation down in Iraq. As much as I want to bomb ISIS, I'm not sure babysitting Iraq will work on a long-term basis. Aaah what the fuck do I know. I could never imagine the horrors going on in the middle east at the moment. But it's starting to feel like for every "problem" that's solved in the middle east, 2 more problems come up.

[QUOTE=booster;45582269]We tried though didn't we? A lot of money, effort and collaboration between several nations were put into trying to unfuck the situation down in Iraq. As much as I want to bomb ISIS, I'm not sure babysitting Iraq will work on a long-term basis. Aaah what the fuck do I know. I could never imagine the horrors going on in the middle east at the moment. But it's starting to feel like for every "problem" that's solved in the middle east, 2 more problems come up.[/QUOTE] Unfuck iraq? We didn't try. We put in a corrupt regime, we funded militia groups to go round torturing and murdering people. We let PMC units have more authority than the police we let foreign companies come in and take all the profit with little to nothing going to the local people. In disbanding the army we told a bunch of armed, now angry men, to go fuck themselves. We didn't try very hard either that or we were totally incompetent.

[QUOTE=Glitchman;45582249]wait, so they SAW off your head? Not like just chop it off? fuck man[/QUOTE] Yeah, like literally hold you in place and have at you, it's fucking vicious. I mean, at least in chop chop square in Saudi, it's done in one clean motion. I'm sure that way is a lot less painful than having your neck and head sawn off.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45582290]Unfuck iraq? We didn't try. We put in a corrupt regime, we funded militia groups to go round torturing and murdering people. We let PMC units have more authority than the police we let foreign companies come in and take all the profit with little to nothing going to the local people. In disbanding the army we told a bunch of armed, now angry men, to go fuck themselves. We didn't try very hard either that or we were totally incompetent.[/QUOTE] So the question remains, would they have been better off if we hadn't intervene?

[QUOTE=booster;45582331]So the question remains, would they have been better off if we hadn't intervene?[/QUOTE] Some would, the kurds definitely would not.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45582339]Some would, the kurds definitely would not.[/QUOTE] Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.

[QUOTE=booster;45582356]Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.[/QUOTE] Screwed if you do, more screwed if you don't. Or visa versa.

Can we at least evacuate the people being slaughtered?

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;45582392]Can we at least evacuate the people being slaughtered?[/QUOTE] Evacuate ISIS from the planet.

[QUOTE=willtheoct;45580730]I can't say I feel sympathetic. When you all lie down in a line, and a guy slowly makes his way up the line firing his gun, you're going to die either way, why not get up and fight? In this case, fighting at least has a minimal chance of survival. Some people just don't know execution etiquette[/QUOTE] Uhm you would get shot immediately if you got up, this isn't a fucking movie. [editline]3rd August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ironman17;45580738]Again, I hate that these murderous psychopaths have the gall to have an acronym that is synonymous with the Egyptian goddess of health and love, when they sow fear and death in this horrid fashion. If we could freeze them, then thaw them out when we can fix their maddened brains, it'd be for the best, since of course an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, even if the other eye decapitated countless innocents. Death is a horrifying waste of mind and matter, but if the madmen can be contained in a state where they don't deteriorate further, then later have their minds fixed and restored to gentle sanity, then we should. After all, why waste something if it can be repurposed, especially something as valuable as the human brain. Even though there are no excuses for these vile atrocities, killing the madmen of ISIS won't bring the innocent back from the dead. We just don't have the science for that yet.[/QUOTE] Please don't be serious.

[QUOTE=Glitchman;45582249]wait, so they SAW off your head? Not like just chop it off? fuck man[/QUOTE] Depends how mad you made them. To be honest if were ranking things I think the Mexican cartels are more brutal. They've done some crazy shit all in the name of money. At least these guys believe in something.

[QUOTE=Grimhound;45581231]Fucking barbarians.[/QUOTE] Barbarians have more honor than this