Tennessee Gay-Bashing 2 Electric Boogaloo: High school principal physically assaults student for wea
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[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;32631410]Sometimes I question why I live in gay-hating, bible-thumping hell.[/QUOTE]
Dude we seriously only live a district away from eachother and I couldn't agree more.
"[I]damn job switches.[/I]"
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32631815]I assume the article is not 100% true because it only includes one side of the story. They didn't even [i]attempt[/i] to get the school administration's comment on the matter.
I believe [i]something[/i] happened here, but I do not believe we're getting teh full story.[/QUOTE]
This happening is far more believable than someone making it all up, especially in Tennessee
right now your attitude is skewed based on a personal experience that you've yet to share with us
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32631815]I assume the article is not 100% true because it only includes one side of the story. They didn't even [i]attempt[/i] to get the school administration's comment on the matter.
I believe [i]something[/i] happened here, but I do not believe we're getting teh full story.[/QUOTE]
So in what world do you think that the administration is even the least bit defensible here? Even if was [I]just[/I] the matter of forcing him to take the t-shirt off, that's also a violation of the student's rights.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32631577]Yeah punch him in the face for defending an infamous cause in a backwards state where gays regularly get assaulted ![/QUOTE]
Nah, just bro.
Right on, bible belt. Right on... :smith:
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;32631841]This happening is far more believable than someone making it all up, especially in Tennessee
right now your attitude is skewed based on a personal experience that you've yet to share with us[/QUOTE]
He also believes there may be bias because there is nothing defending the principal(don't interpret this as sympathizing with the principal please.), not a statement or anything.
That could create suspicion that it's a very one sided writer who was not looking for the truth.
That being said, it's generally common when people do something terribly wrong and reprehensible they don't want to talk about it.
Especially to any news agency, let alone the ACLU.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32631815]I assume the article is not 100% true because it only includes one side of the story. They didn't even [i]attempt[/i] to get the school administration's comment on the matter.
I believe [i]something[/i] happened here, but I do not believe we're getting teh full story.[/QUOTE]
I doubt the principal really wants to give his version of the story.
Gay bashing stories twice in one day from Tennessee? What a deal!
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32631841]This happening is far more believable than someone making it all up, especially in Tennessee
right now your attitude is skewed based on a personal experience that you've yet to share with us[/QUOTE]
Right now my additude is "skewed" because I believe in the concept of "innocent until proven guilty." Right now you have a kid and his sister saying a mean teacher harassed them. No witnesses are quoted. No attempt was made to get the school's side of the story.
Is a matter in fact, it doesn't even sound like the kid being gay had anything to do with it. The kid was told not to wear the shirt, and he did it anyway. Principal gets mad because of the kid's blatant defiance and overreacts.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32631847]So in what world do you think that the administration is even the least bit defensible here? Even if was [I]just[/I] the matter of forcing him to take the t-shirt off, that's also a violation of the student's rights.[/QUOTE]
I've heard of a lot of stories about schools telling kids they can't wear clothing with certian messages on them (the most outrageous one I can recall is the [url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2011/09/08/ns-breast-cancer-bracelets.html]"I heart boobies" controversy[/url]. I wouldn't be that upset, as some high schools even have strict dress codes and official uniforms.
Note to self: Move out of Tennessee. Don't want to be accused of being a gay-hater.
Sometimes I really hate the south. This is beyond stupid and I don't know why people make such a big deal out of everything.
I do believe that the article is not telling the entire truth. You don't get assaulted for refusing to take your shirt off, something else must of happened that made the principal "assault" the student. He wears a shirt to school, and refuses to remove it after being instructed to. The principal orders all students out of the room and then assualts the boy. If you don't believe that this is bullshit, then what is?
I'm not going to come to any conclusions however, until we get a source from another site (and also a different perspective). This article seems incredibly sensationalised.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;32632216]He wears a shirt to school, and refuses to remove it after being instructed to.[/QUOTE]
He was within his rights to refuse to remove the shirt.
I suppose the kind of school where the principle attacks you for wearing a shirt supporting the creation of a GSA is the kind of school that needs one.
When I was in high school I always wondered why we even had such a club considering the like non-existence of anti-gay sentiment, much less violence, in that school.
A few times they had guest speakers and when members of the GSA got up on stage to introduce the event every single one of them said something along the lines of
"Hi, my name is blank, I'm not gay but I'm supportive"
I think they had a grand total of one lesbian among like 15 straight but supportive people.
WHO'S THE BIG MAN NOW
can't take this seriously now
[QUOTE=Antdawg;32632216]I do believe that the article is not telling the entire truth. You don't get assaulted for refusing to take your shirt off, something else must of happened that made the principal "assault" the student. He wears a shirt to school, and refuses to remove it after being instructed to. The principal orders all students out of the room and then assualts the boy. If you don't believe that this is bullshit, then what is?
I'm not going to come to any conclusions however, until we get a source from another site (and also a different perspective). This article seems incredibly sensationalised.[/QUOTE]
Nope this article is real another article on the same story article even has a video [url]http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/04/tenn-high-school-principal-assaulted-student-over-gay-rights-t-shirt-video[/url]
Don't worry, he might not be a homophobe, he might just be a pedophile!
"Mmmm, take off your shirt!"
See? That is much bet- er wait. shit.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;32632216]He wears a shirt to school, and refuses to remove it after being instructed to.[/QUOTE]
Any kind of school dress code has always bothered me(short of you can't wear your kkk hood, nazi armband, or prance about totally nude)
Especially the ones that had to do with revealing clothing,
The argument pretty much went something along the lines of if you wear revealing clothing it would distract the teachers by giving them boners all class or something.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32632342]He was within his rights to refuse to remove the shirt.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Why would a principal assault a student who was acting within their rights?
[QUOTE=Novistador;32632381]
The argument pretty much went something along the lines of if you wear revealing clothing it would distract the teachers by giving them boners all class or something.[/QUOTE]
I don't quite think that was the same explanation I got.
I got something more:
"Revealing clothes are unprofessional and will undercut your progress in life"
and less:
"WEAR A LONGER SKIRT. OH GOD I AM SO HARD RIGHT NOW."
[QUOTE=Novistador;32632381]Any kind of school dress code has always bothered me(short of you can't wear your kkk hood, nazi armband, or prance about totally nude)
Especially the ones that had to do with revealing clothing,
The argument pretty much went something along the lines of if you wear revealing clothing it would distract the teachers by giving them boners all class or something.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I think the idea is that you [B]could[/B] wear your Nazi or KKK stuff. Or a shirt that says Fuck the Draft. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California[/url]
But, like always, just because the Supreme Court says something is constitutional, doesn't mean the act is right. [insert something about relativity here]
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32631815]I assume the article is not 100% true because it only includes one side of the story. They didn't even [i]attempt[/i] to get the school administration's comment on the matter.
I believe [i]something[/i] happened here, but I do not believe we're getting teh full story.[/QUOTE]
hmm i wonder what the other side to an adult, a school principal no less, pushing around and harassing a school student could be
[QUOTE=GunFox;32632376]Don't worry, he might not be a homophobe, he might just be a pedophile!
"Mmmm, take off your shirt!"
See? That is much bet- er wait. shit.[/QUOTE]
Homophedophile.
[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;32632361]Nope this article is real another article on the same story article even has a video [url]http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/04/tenn-high-school-principal-assaulted-student-over-gay-rights-t-shirt-video[/url][/QUOTE]
It's good you supplied another article, but I'd much rather an article from a difference perspective. That article is pretty much the exact same as the article in the OP.
[QUOTE=Novistador;32632381]Any kind of school dress code has always bothered me(short of you can't wear your kkk hood, nazi armband, or prance about totally nude)
Especially the ones that had to do with revealing clothing,
The argument pretty much went something along the lines of if you wear revealing clothing it would distract the teachers by giving them boners all class or something.[/QUOTE]
In my high school too revealing clothes were forbidden because it's just vulgar and school isn't the place to reveal your assets like that - a club is.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32632453]In my high school too revealing clothes were forbidden because it's just vulgar.[/QUOTE]
Haha this reminds me of my high school.
We have uniforms, but there is no actual defined length needed for the girls skirts (as in below the knee or something), as long as the skirt has a certain pattern, then it is fine. Many girls are fine wearing skirts that barely go halfway down the thigh. Teachers don't care. You'd be amazed at how many upskirt views you can get, but let's not go into that.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;32632488]Haha this reminds me of my high school.
We have uniforms, but there is no actual defined length needed for the girls skirts (as in below the knee or something), as long as the skirt has a certain pattern, then it is fine. Many girls are fine wearing skirts that barely go halfway down the thigh. Teachers don't care. You'd be amazed at how many upskirt views you can get, but let's not go into that.[/QUOTE]
Out of curiosity,
Were women allowed to wear pants at your school?
was it public or private?
[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;32632361]Nope this article is real another article on the same story article even has a video [url]http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/10/04/tenn-high-school-principal-assaulted-student-over-gay-rights-t-shirt-video[/url][/QUOTE]
That source is just quoting the ACLU press release and offering nothing more than I've already read.
Though the video did help to understand what's going on here (even though it was clearly shot before this incident allegedly occured). Sounds like they started a petiton for a GSA, then some fucktarded rednecks started an "anti-GSA petition," which caused too much conflict, so they ordered both sides to stop circulating petitions.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say that we're not getting the whole story. The ACLU press release stated that the school "threatened to punish students who circulated petitions about the club," but failed to say why, leading the reader to believe the principal only did it because he's a homophobic bigoted prick, when in reality it sounds like the anti-GSA petition was getting too out of hand and was causing too many problems, so the administration said "enough" and stopped both sides.
A good way to defuse the situation? Probably not. An attack on gay rights? Probably not.
[QUOTE=Novistador;32632598]Out of curiosity,
Were women allowed to wear pants at your school?
was it public or private?[/QUOTE]
Public school.
Girls have the choice between long pants and skirts, but on Wednesdays (the day Yr7-10 do sport, us in Yr11 and Yr12 don't have compulsory sport) the Yr7-10 girls have to wear shorts. Same goes for PE lessons (yet again only compulsory for Yr7-10). Most girls don't wear long pants, even in winter. I don't know whether it's the stockings that keep them warm or if they don't mind wearing skirts.
[QUOTE=Novistador;32632381]Any kind of school dress code has always bothered me(short of you can't wear your kkk hood, nazi armband, or prance about totally nude)
Especially the ones that had to do with revealing clothing,
The argument pretty much went something along the lines of if you wear revealing clothing it would distract the teachers by giving them boners all class or something.[/QUOTE]
The only problem I had with my high school's dress code is that the teachers violated it more than the students. There was one vice principal I can especially remember as causing more "classroom disruptions" with her provocative short skirts, leather jackets, and authentic fur coats than any student in the history of the school did (she was at least 50 years old). You ask anyone who went to school there if they remember that vice principal who....... and they instantly say "dressed like a 20-something Playboy reject? Yeah!"
And then she was arrested for DUI. And yes, she was the mean one.
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