Man fined for ‘paying in pennies’ - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Kinversulath;30329899]They didn't have to accept the pennies and in this case they were right to refuse him. It amazes me that people think that a guy should be allowed to pay off a bill by dumping a shitload of pennies onto a counter, leaving it to the store to clean up and count. Seriously, fuck that guy.[/QUOTE] What you don't seem to be getting is that this was an act of protest. He was contesting the bill, but still paying it. Would you rather he just ignored the bill and didn't pay at all?

aw, i thought he was going to be paying in gum, like that stupid commercial

[QUOTE=AaRoNg11;30330280]What you don't seem to be getting is that this was an act of protest. He was contesting the bill, but still paying it. Would you rather he just ignored the bill and didn't pay at all?[/QUOTE] Rather he not mess with some clerk who has nothing to do with his bill and is just making a living.

[quote]In the US any amount in coins counts as legal tender — but there is no law that forces shops and other retailers to accept them. That means businesses can ask for payment in any denomination they want. [/quote] Uh, no. All coins are legal tender, and all stores must accept legal tender. If their policy with coins is that they must be rolled, then they must have that policy posted, otherwise they can't enforce it. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30329795]You can't pay with pennies unless they are wrapped in those $1 paper coin sheaths. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] sorry to break it to the person who disagreed with me. No one is going to accept pennies they can't feasibly count or store in their register. Pennies are designed to make exact change, not pay bills. Fuck this person.[/QUOTE] See what I said before, if their policy is that they must be rolled, their policy must be posted in order to be enforced just like a store needs to have it posted that they reserve the right to refuse service to anybody in order to enforce that. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=borisvdb;30330249]They could have just told him to clean it up and go use a coinstar machine.[/QUOTE] They'd be refusing legal tender [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Kinversulath;30329899]They didn't have to accept the pennies and in this case they were right to refuse him. It amazes me that people think that a guy should be allowed to pay off a bill by dumping a shitload of pennies onto a counter, leaving it to the store to clean up and count. Seriously, fuck that guy.[/QUOTE] The point is that it was a bullshit bill to begin with. If they don't want a mess, don't fuck your customers over with stupid charges.

Weigh one penny and then weigh them all. All issues about a multitude of pennies solved.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30330942]Uh, no. All coins are legal tender, and all stores must accept legal tender. If their policy with coins is that they must be rolled, then they must have that policy posted, otherwise they can't enforce it. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] See what I said before, if their policy is that they must be rolled, their policy must be posted in order to be enforced just like a store needs to have it posted that they reserve the right to refuse service to anybody in order to enforce that. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] They'd be refusing legal tender [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] The point is that it was a bullshit bill to begin with. If they don't want a mess, don't fuck your customers over with stupid charges.[/QUOTE] Businesses can deny legal tender. For example, I can't pay my rent in cash. In the end the dude got fucked worse and he deserved it.

I remeber hearing that paying with more than a certain amount of pennies is not legal tender

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30331143]Businesses can deny legal tender. For example, I can't pay my rent in cash. In the end the dude got fucked worse and he deserved it.[/QUOTE] They have it posted somewhere that they only accept check or credit card I'm assuming, right? If it's posted, it can be enforced. Had this store had it posted that they don't accept cash, then he wouldn't have been able to pay in pennies [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=geoface;30331165]I remeber hearing that paying with more than a certain amount of pennies is not legal tender[/QUOTE] So you're telling me that if I have enough pennies, they become worthless? Why not say that you don't accept $1s because they take too long to count in bulk? It's the same argument.

If they don't want people to pay with pennies, then stop allowing them to be used as legal currency. It should've happened ages ago anyway. I trash my pennies because they are goddamn worthless.

Just invent a 99p coin please, thank you.

[QUOTE=Ultra Violence;30331222]If they don't want people to pay with pennies, then stop allowing them to be used as legal currency. It should've happened ages ago anyway. I trash my pennies because they are goddamn worthless.[/QUOTE] Bullshit, last time I emptied all the change out of my room and car and brought it to a coinstar I had at least $20 in pennies alone [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Randdalf;30331279]Just invent a 99p coin please, thank you.[/QUOTE] Or just charge an even amount instead of lowering it by 1 cent to make people think they're paying less.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30331188]They have it posted somewhere that they only accept check or credit card I'm assuming, right? If it's posted, it can be enforced. Had this store had it posted that they don't accept cash, then he wouldn't have been able to pay in pennies [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] So you're telling me that if I have enough pennies, they become worthless? Why not say that you don't accept $1s because they take too long to count in bulk? It's the same argument.[/QUOTE] I'm talkin about a thousand(or something, cant remember the exact amount) pennies in bulk, individually they are worth something but as a whole they are not, unless they are in smaller amounts Or maybe it's just illegal not illegal tender

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30331188]They have it posted somewhere that they only accept check or credit card I'm assuming, right? If it's posted, it can be enforced. Had this store had it posted that they don't accept cash, then he wouldn't have been able to pay in pennies [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] So you're telling me that if I have enough pennies, they become worthless? Why not say that you don't accept $1s because they take too long to count in bulk? It's the same argument.[/QUOTE] It's common sense. If you have enough pennies either wrap them or go to a bank and turn them into a higher denomination.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30331372]It's common sense. If you have enough pennies either wrap them or go to a bank and turn them into a higher denomination.[/QUOTE] You're missing the point. This was in protest of a bullshit bill that he tried to fight previously. He probably went to the bank and REQUESTED them specifically for this. No, you shouldn't go to a restaurant and pay for your meal in unrolled pennies. That doesn't mean it's illegal to, that doesn't mean that you can't.

Pennies are useless. I wish cash was replaced by a digital currency like Credit Cards/Debit Cards, PayPal, etc. I have a bunch of change that I literally have no idea what to do with. With the digital currency there just needs to be a simple way for people to exchange money similar to cash but not as complicated as credit cards. With CCs you have to have a phone connection to Visa and you have a crapton of regulations. So something like PayPal but you don't have to sit in front of your computer to use. Maybe Near Field Communication (NFC) thingies that Google is doing stuff with in Android. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Randdalf;30331279]Just invent a 99p coin please, thank you.[/QUOTE] Dunno about where you live, but in the US we pay sales tax. So something that is 99c here costs $1.06 at the cash register.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30331496]Pennies are useless. I wish cash was replaced by a digital currency like Credit Cards/Debit Cards, PayPal, etc. I have a bunch of change that I literally have no idea what to do with. With the digital currency there just needs to be a simple way for people to exchange money similar to cash but not as complicated as credit cards. With CCs you have to have a phone connection to Visa and you have a crapton of regulations. So something like PayPal but you don't have to sit in front of your computer to use. Maybe Near Field Communication (NFC) thingies that Google is doing stuff with in Android. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] Dunno about where you live, but in the US we pay sales tax. So something that is 99c here costs $1.06 at the cash register.[/QUOTE] I save all my change, bring it to a coinstar, and get an amazon gift card because they take a certain amount off if you turn it into cash. That way I can buy useless shit every once in a while and it doesn't all come directly out of the money that I need to budget for gas\food\etc

I think it is kind of mean to bring in only pennies. At least cash them in somewhere. It stalls everyone else on the line, plus a person working all day has to stop and count them all. Plus dumping them on the counter isn't very nice either.

So why do we waste money printing pennies when they cost more to produce then they're even worth?

[QUOTE=JamesRaynor;30331825]So why do we waste money printing pennies when they cost more to produce then they're even worth?[/QUOTE] If my digital currency idea is never implemented, I would not mind having all prices rounded to the nearest quarter to get rid of pennies, nickels, and dimes, because I don't use anything less than a quarter. And I only use quarters in vending machines. And to add to my previous post, no I don't want to use checks. I hate taking them to the bank. However, some banks let you take a picture of checks on your phone to cash them which is pretty cool.

[QUOTE=Dragoshi1;30331800]I think it is kind of mean to bring in only pennies. At least cash them in somewhere. It stalls everyone else on the line, plus a person working all day has to stop and count them all. Plus dumping them on the counter isn't very nice either.[/QUOTE] Why does nobody realize that this was done IN PROTEST. Just because you agree this guy isn't in the wrong doesn't mean you're saying that you should be able to pay for anything and everything with pennies because they're legal tender. Yes, this is an asshole move. It was also an asshole move for the company to be charging their clients bullshit fees that this guy was trying to fight, and ended up having to pay.

[QUOTE=ironman17;30328974]IT'S [b]MONEY[/b] YOU [b]PLONKERS[/b], just [b]bloody[/b] accept it![/QUOTE] The clinic played Killing Floor. As far as I know there are no coins.

[QUOTE=Ultra Violence;30331222]If they don't want people to pay with pennies, then stop allowing them to be used as legal currency. It should've happened ages ago anyway. I trash my pennies because they are goddamn worthless.[/QUOTE] That's stupid no one is saying pennies are useless, paying with 2500 is obviously a way to piss people off. And pennies would cause a disturbance and probably tie up the counter for a long time, making it unfair to other people. If he had only pennies he could've just taken them to a bank. I don't support such a hefty fine as 140$ but still the cashier was right at not accepting the payment.

Why doesn't he just pay the fine in pennies? :v:

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30331912]If my digital currency idea is never implemented, I would not mind having all prices rounded to the nearest quarter to get rid of pennies, nickels, and dimes, because I don't use anything less than a quarter. And I only use quarters in vending machines.[/QUOTE] Unless there's some kind of overly complex and confusing non-flat sales tax to go along with it, that could never possibly be implemented. As long as physical currency exists, a 1 cent piece must exist.

[QUOTE=Fetret;30332126]That's stupid no one is saying pennies are useless, paying with 2500 is obviously a way to piss people off. And pennies would cause a disturbance and probably tie up the counter for a long time, making it unfair to other people. If he had only pennies he could've just taken them to a bank. I don't support such a hefty fine as 140$ but still the cashier was right at not accepting the payment.[/QUOTE] If it's a way to piss people off, don't give your customers a reason to WANT to piss you off.

I'm pretty sure this is illegal.

[QUOTE=Ultra Violence;30331222]If they don't want people to pay with pennies, then stop allowing them to be used as legal currency. It should've happened ages ago anyway. I trash my pennies because they are goddamn worthless.[/QUOTE] They tried that back in the early 2000s. It obviously failed. Just like how they tried to force people from cash to card. That also fails.

Related. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzc8vS-ac-g[/media]

This is complete fucking bullshit it pisses me off.

[QUOTE=JETFIGHTER5;30332324]Related. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzc8vS-ac-g[/media][/QUOTE] My internet is slow as fuck so I didn't watch it, but is that the one where he had to pay to get his car back, so he paid in pennies, they tried to call the cops, and the cops told them to stop bitching and take the money?