Man fined for ‘paying in pennies’ - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30332219]If it's a way to piss people off, don't give your customers a reason to WANT to piss you off.[/QUOTE] It was a bill. Bills generally piss people off. And instead of reasoning with people he resorted to dumping pennies on a counter.

[QUOTE=Fetret;30332614]It was a fine, he did something wrong and was fined. Fines generally piss people off.[/QUOTE] So now you're telepathic and know 100% for a fact that it was a legitimate charge? My child support goes through a little company called eppicard, and for every single transaction that I make, and every time I call to check my balance, eppicard takes a 25¢ fee. It doesn't seem like much, but trust me it adds up. I just had to pay a [b]$3.00[/b] charge in order to withdraw $300 from my child support card to deposit it into my checking account to pay my rent, in order to get the money put into MY account and not the Eppicard, we need to go to a court and pay ANOTHER $45. Not all charges are fair, and could be avoided if major companies stopped being so money hungry.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30332693]So now you're telepathic and know 100% for a fact that it was a legitimate charge? My child support goes through a little company called eppicard, and for every single transaction that I make, and every time I call to check my balance, eppicard takes a 25¢ fee. It doesn't seem like much, but trust me it adds up. I just had to pay a [b]$3.00[/b] charge in order to withdraw $300 from my child support card to deposit it into my checking account to pay my rent, in order to get the money put into MY account and not the Eppicard, we need to go to a court and pay ANOTHER $45. Not all charges are fair, and could be avoided if major companies stopped being so money hungry.[/QUOTE] Yes but people seem to think making the life of low level employees hell would cause a difference in the behavior of large companies. The fact that the counter and the woman behind the till had to sift through 2500 pennies won't make the company review their charging policy would it. I am all for protest and standing up for ones rights but people seem to miss the target for protests quite often nowadays. Harassing other regular working people who are just trying to do their jobs and get through the day is not the way to make a case for yourself. And I don't care whether the charge was legitimate or not. I am not sure at all, but neither are you so that fact makes no difference in our arguments. And in any case what does this have to do anything with "big companies trying to screw us over all the time" argument?

[QUOTE=Fetret;30332972]Yes but people seem to think making the life of low level employees hell would cause a difference in the behavior of large companies. The fact that the counter and the woman behind the till had to sift through 2500 pennies won't make the company review their charging policy would it. I am all for protest and standing up for ones rights but people seem to miss the target for protests quite often nowadays. Harassing other regular working people who are just trying to do their jobs and get through the day is not the way to make a case for yourself. And I don't care whether the charge was legitimate or not. I am not sure at all, but neither are you so that fact makes no difference in our arguments. And in any case what does this have to do anything with "big companies trying to screw us over all the time" argument?[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.ritecount.com/shop/images/5101CoinCounter.jpg[/img] Oh my! It's so hard to use a coin counting product for coin counting! And [b]YOU[/b] seem to keep missing the point that pennies [b]ARE STILL LEGAL TENDER. YOU CANNOT BE FINED FOR PAYING ENTIRELY IN PENNIES NO MATTER HOW MUCH OF AN ASSHOLE YOU ARE.[/b]

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30333117][img]http://www.ritecount.com/shop/images/5101CoinCounter.jpg[/img] Oh my! It's so hard to use a coin counting product for coin counting! And [b]YOU[/b] seem to keep missing the point that pennies [b]ARE STILL LEGAL TENDER. YOU CANNOT BE FINED FOR PAYING ENTIRELY IN PENNIES NO MATTER HOW MUCH OF AN ASSHOLE YOU ARE.[/b][/QUOTE] Yes you can be. As you can see from the article, the establishment has the right to refuse any denomination or request the payment in a certain one. And I am sure not agreeing with the establishments request and then dumping the said pennies on to the counter would end up in you getting kicked out. As I said before I do find the 140$ fine to be excessive, but the man was not right and had no right to do what he did.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30333117][img]http://www.ritecount.com/shop/images/5101CoinCounter.jpg[/img] Oh my! It's so hard to use a coin counting product for coin counting! And [b]YOU[/b] seem to keep missing the point that pennies [b]ARE STILL LEGAL TENDER. YOU CANNOT BE FINED FOR PAYING ENTIRELY IN PENNIES NO MATTER HOW MUCH OF AN ASSHOLE YOU ARE.[/b][/QUOTE] I hate people who continually shout "LEGAL TENDER LEGAL TENDER" he was doing it to be a dick and it backfired. Which is hilarious.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30333238]I hate people who continually shout "LEGAL TENDER LEGAL TENDER" he was doing it to be a dick and it backfired. Which is hilarious.[/QUOTE] He's yet to try to contest this fine. If the store doesn't have it posted that they don't accept it, they cannot legally enforce it. Just because the company hasn't gotten in trouble yet doesn't mean he hasn't won. It's a store, which is a public service. They don't have a RIGHT to paying customers, and if all I have on me is loose change, then they should either accommodate me, or inform me beforehand that they won't by having it posted.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30333363]He's yet to try to contest this fine. If the store doesn't have it posted that they don't accept it, they cannot legally enforce it. Just because the company hasn't gotten in trouble yet doesn't mean he hasn't won. It's a store, which is a public service. They don't have a RIGHT to paying customers, and if all I have on me is loose change, then they should either accommodate me, or inform me beforehand that they won't by having it posted.[/QUOTE] I want you to go make a few 50 dollar purchases only in pennies and see how many stores accept it. We live in the real world. People aren't robots, it shouldn't be that clerk's job to sit there for the next few hours counting pennies. And I KNOW I KNOW you posted a picture of a penny counting machine, however that is largely irrelevant because the only establishments in the real world that actually have such machines are going to be banks. He was being a dick to someone who had nothing to do with his little issue, he took it out on an employee and got fucked in the end. Fuck him.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30333363]He's yet to try to contest this fine. If the store doesn't have it posted that they don't accept it, they cannot legally enforce it. Just because the company hasn't gotten in trouble yet doesn't mean he hasn't won. It's a store, which is a public service. They don't have a RIGHT to paying customers, and if all I have on me is loose change, then they should either accommodate me, or inform me beforehand that they won't by having it posted.[/QUOTE] Didn't you read it? The store has the right to accept or reject denomination and by doing so they risk losing your business. I am sure the store would not refuse service to you if you only have change so they won't lose you as a customer, but paying in 2500 pennies is not having only loose change and again the store had the right to do what it did.

He should have stuffed the pennies down their throats. That'll teach them, yeah... :smug:

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30331496]Pennies are useless. I wish cash was replaced by a digital currency like Credit Cards/Debit Cards, PayPal, etc. I have a bunch of change that I literally have no idea what to do with. With the digital currency there just needs to be a simple way for people to exchange money similar to cash but not as complicated as credit cards. With CCs you have to have a phone connection to Visa and you have a crapton of regulations. So something like PayPal but you don't have to sit in front of your computer to use. Maybe Near Field Communication (NFC) thingies that Google is doing stuff with in Android. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] Dunno about where you live, but in the US we pay sales tax. So something that is 99c here costs $1.06 at the cash register.[/QUOTE] digital currency, how ingenius that false pretense of security and convenience is why we got rid of the gold standard, and what an ingenius idea that was.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30333550]I want you to go make a few 50 dollar purchases only in pennies and see how many stores accept it. We live in the real world. People aren't robots, it shouldn't be that clerk's job to sit there for the next few hours counting pennies. And I KNOW I KNOW you posted a picture of a penny counting machine, however that is largely irrelevant because the only establishments in the real world that actually have such machines are going to be banks. He was being a dick to someone who had nothing to do with his little issue, he took it out on an employee and got fucked in the end. Fuck him.[/QUOTE] [quote]Just because you agree this guy isn't in the wrong doesn't mean you're saying that you should be able to pay for anything and everything with pennies because they're legal tender. Yes, this is an asshole move. It was also an asshole move for the company to be charging their clients bullshit fees that this guy was trying to fight, and ended up having to pay.[/quote] If anything whoever got stuck counting them should be happy, they just got paid their wage to count fucking coins. This also effectively affects the higher ups, because being short a clerk means less service, means unhappy customers, which leads to A) more of this, or B) complaints [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Fetret;30333615]Didn't you read it? The store has the right to accept or reject denomination and by doing so they risk losing your business. I am sure the store would not refuse service to you if you only have change so they won't lose you as a customer, but paying in 2500 pennies is not having only loose change and again the store had the right to do what it did.[/QUOTE] Last I checked, loose change is any amount of unrolled change. How do you know the guy had no other form of payment on him at the time?

[img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091220193152/dexterslab/images/thumb/c/c2/IceCream.jpg/260px-IceCream.jpg[/img] I HAD TO COUNT EVERY PENNY I wasn't the only one thinking about this guy, right?

Could've been worse. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLpOjXOMFkg[/media]

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30334374]If anything whoever got stuck counting them should be happy, they just got paid their wage to count fucking coins. This also effectively affects the higher ups, because being short a clerk means less service, means unhappy customers, which leads to A) more of this, or B) complaints [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] Last I checked, loose change is any amount of unrolled change. How do you know the guy had no other form of payment on him at the time?[/QUOTE] That's the thing though, the clerk can't actually sit there counting coins all day because he has to service other people. Therefore he could not accept this dumb fuck's pennies.

If I were him I'd pay the fine in pennies too. Fuck the police. Pennies are valid currency and should be accepted anywhere.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30336066]That's the thing though, the clerk can't actually sit there counting coins all day because he has to service other people.[/QUOTE] [b]THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT[/b] [quote]Therefore he could not accept this dumb fuck's pennies.[/quote] Yes, the guy does something to get back at a company, and is successful at it. Clearly he's a dumb fuck because you fail to realize that he accomplished EXACTLY what he was trying to accomplish.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30336117][B]THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT[/B] [/QUOTE] That's exactly why they had every reason to tell him to fuck off. [quote] Yes, the guy does something to get back at a company, and is successful at it. Clearly he's a dumb fuck because you fail to realize that he accomplished EXACTLY what he was trying to accomplish.[/quote]Yeah man he showed them! Getting an additional fine for disorderly conduct man! So smart!

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30336229]That's exactly why they had every reason to tell him to fuck off. Yeah man he showed them! Getting an additional fine for disorderly conduct man! So smart![/QUOTE] How is it disorderly conduct? He asked if they take cash, they do, so he put them on the counter. He doesn't control the laws of gravity, he was trying to pay what he owed.

No he was trying to be a dick and he knew the coins would roll. If he didn't want that to happen he wouldn't have paid in pennies. The only way coins roll is if you dump them out of a box or something onto a flat surface. No fucking shit that's gonna make a mess.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;30336396]No he was trying to be a dick and he knew the coins would roll. If he didn't want that to happen he wouldn't have paid in pennies. The only way coins roll is if you dump them out of a box or something onto a flat surface. No fucking shit that's gonna make a mess.[/QUOTE] Ok, so show me some proof that you know what his intent was, and then I'll start listening to you

[quote]And fans of wacky ways to protest can take heart from one thing: £1 and £2 coins are legal tender up to any amount you like. [b]Even if they're frozen in ice or put in a bathtub full of honey.[/b][/quote] I've got to try that in a PC World.

[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30336735]Ok, so show me some proof that you know what his intent was, and then I'll start listening to you[/QUOTE] Nah cause I operate with common sense. Something you apparently don't have.

They're allowed to not accept the pennies if they're not in rolls. This guy just didn't do his homework.

Honestly that many pennies is a little stupid, so is piling them onto a counter. Waste of fucking time. yes, it's real currency, but honestly. Basically a cluster fuck of stupidity. [QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;30336735]Ok, so show me some proof that you know what his intent was, and then I'll start listening to you[/QUOTE] When you pay something with that many pennies, you obviously, CLEARLY don't have good intent.

Pennies are legal tender. Just like other coins.

[QUOTE=Dr Bob;30328711]West says he didn't throw anything, they spilled: "That's just the nature of pennies," he told the Vernal Express. "They're round."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ultra Violence;30331222]If they don't want people to pay with pennies, then stop allowing them to be used as legal currency. It should've happened ages ago anyway. I trash my pennies because they are goddamn worthless.[/QUOTE] When my family was having a rough time about 2 years ago, we would save fucking pennies off the ground because every penny counted and we had to buy food or pay for bills. They aren't "goddamn" worthless. They add up.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30331496]Pennies are useless. I wish cash was replaced by a digital currency like Credit Cards/Debit Cards, PayPal, etc. I have a bunch of change that I literally have no idea what to do with. With the digital currency there just needs to be a simple way for people to exchange money similar to cash but not as complicated as credit cards. With CCs you have to have a phone connection to Visa and you have a crapton of regulations. So something like PayPal but you don't have to sit in front of your computer to use. Maybe Near Field Communication (NFC) thingies that Google is doing stuff with in Android. [editline]8th June 2011[/editline] Dunno about where you live, but in the US we pay sales tax. So something that is 99c here costs $1.06 at the cash register.[/QUOTE] yeah, but you also give up a massive part of your privacy. cash is king. [editline]9th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Kopimi;30333886]digital currency, how ingenius that false pretense of security and convenience is why we got rid of the gold standard, and what an ingenius idea that was.[/QUOTE] i've never really understood why people think gold is the only real currency, in the event of a nuclear war and the whole world has gone to shit, nobody is going to be interested in your shiny metal.

He can fight the disorderly conduct thing. He didn't do anything illegal and was reportedly very calm about the whole thing. Disorderly conduct does not mean "spilling pennies onto a counter-top, which then some decided to roll off said countertop".