[QUOTE=SomeENG;45148673]Here's a picture I like to post every time someone says Americans shouldn't be bitching about gas prices.
[img]http://blog.old-and-bold.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/US-UK-size-comparison.jpg[/img]
I have a fifty mile round trip per day for work, paying roughly forty bucks a work-week in gas.[/QUOTE]
That's like a 3/4 tank for a ford focus up here. In fact, america is right now at a record price gap between themselves and canada.
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Well, that's a good thing, that will push for development of electrical vehicles and alternative fuels.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45149020]Well, that's a good thing, that will push for development of electrical vehicles and alternative fuels.[/QUOTE]
Nova Scotia is apparently a leader on algae based biofuel development but Irving has it's dick so deep in our government It isn't getting that much funding.
If it'll fix our shit infrastructure, it's worth it. I mean, get some context here. I can pull up to a stoplight with a gas station on the corner, look down at my dashboard, then look back up and see the gas price 30 cents higher than it was a second ago.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45146076]Still has one of the lowest fuel excises in the world.[/QUOTE]
Currently i pay 1.42$ each liter, for ordinary 87 fuel.
[QUOTE=woolio1;45146290]The Interstates are fine. It's everything outside the Interstates that's terrible. Come out to Knoxville, and our roads are lined with potholes.
Driving on campus, specifically down Cumberland, is abysmal. Same with most of West Knoxville, Sevierville (outside of the touristy areas), Andersonville, Heiskell, Maryville, Jefferson City... The list goes on.
It's not a fun place to drive a Mini Cooper with very little suspension.[/QUOTE]
Maybe if they stopped pedicuring the freeway lawns they could afford to fix the roads elsewhere in the state.
I drove the entire length of the state from Virginia to Arkansas and never have I seen such well kept grass. There were literally mowers every several miles with trash pickup between. Here in Texas, we're lucky if the grass gets mowed once or twice a year and it gets gnarly. As for trash pickup, more often than not it's prison labor (you can see them in their orange jumpsuits with ankle monitors and their number on the jumpsuit.)
But if you think roads there are bad, try driving around in Arkansas without getting your axles torn off. The roads are so bad that you may as well not call them roads because there are sections where the road has degraded so much it's basically rocks and dirt then back to crumbling road. There are also long stretches of freeway made out of concrete sections that have long since been damaged by freezing and buckled up at the joints, causing you to have the DUM-DUM--DUM-DUM sound for 50+ miles.
[QUOTE=Ardosos;45147728]They should ban toll roads anywhere in the US. There is already a gasoline tax, that's just double dipping.[/QUOTE]
A toll is a toll,
And a roll is a roll.
And if we don't get no tolls,
Then we don't eat no rolls.
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[QUOTE=SomeENG;45148673]Here's a picture I like to post every time someone says Americans shouldn't be bitching about gas prices.
[img]http://blog.old-and-bold.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/US-UK-size-comparison.jpg[/img]
I have a fifty mile round trip per day for work, paying roughly forty bucks a work-week in gas.[/QUOTE]
What are you driving?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oAGcwLvh.jpg[/IMG]
There goes the chances of me actually ever buying a car...
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45149020]Well, that's a good thing, that will push for development of electrical vehicles and alternative fuels.[/QUOTE]
All a higher gas tax would do is shaft low-income people who are already suffering from high gas prices. They can't afford an electric car and there's no meaningful infrastructure for hydrogen or other fuel sources.
There aren't many cheap cars in America that get better than 35mpg combined and most of those are [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkgTSaSLO6I]complete death traps[/url]
Senator Murphy from Connecticut, the state with the highest gas prices, wants to raise gas prices. Ok
[QUOTE=TAU!;45152409]There goes the chances of me actually ever buying a car...[/QUOTE]
Learn how to drive efficiently, even if a car has pretty eh mileage, as long as you don't have a long commute you can keep going usually.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45146435]Heres a fun fact for you: The US is the largest producer of oil outside of OPEC[/QUOTE]
That should be awesome and relieving, but instead it proves to be just as frightening.
Americans have shown time and time again they don't give two fucks about their countrymen where money is involved. I have little and less trust in an American CEO than I would an Arabic CEO. At the end of the day, money and greed tend to break down the racial and national barriers so you can screw over everyone equally.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;45152816]Learn how to drive efficiently, even if a car has pretty eh mileage, as long as you don't have a long commute you can keep going usually.[/QUOTE]
I live in NYC. I'll either stick with public transport or my bike.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45152040]If it'll fix our shit infrastructure, it's worth it. I mean, get some context here. I can pull up to a stoplight with a gas station on the corner, look down at my dashboard, then look back up and see the gas price 30 cents higher than it was a second ago.[/QUOTE]
You're severely optimistic that our wonderful federal bureaucracy is capable of getting money made to what it's suppose to be for, let alone use it effectively once there.
[QUOTE=SomeENG;45148673]Here's a picture I like to post every time someone says Americans shouldn't be bitching about gas prices.
[img]http://blog.old-and-bold.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/US-UK-size-comparison.jpg[/img]
I have a fifty mile round trip per day for work, paying roughly forty bucks a work-week in gas.[/QUOTE]
Buy a Hybrid
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[QUOTE=TAU!;45153731]I live in NYC. I'll either stick with public transport or my bike.[/QUOTE]
Well there you go I guess. If you want a vroom vroom thing you could look at motorcycle with their 60-70 mpg. For me, most stuff is at least a few miles away and we have no sidewalks or bike paths so pretty much have to drive.
8.3 dollars per gallon here, mainly tax.
Abbott must have had words with Obama; we're getting a fuel excise here.
[QUOTE=SomeENG;45148673]Here's a picture I like to post every time someone says Americans shouldn't be bitching about gas prices.
[img]http://blog.old-and-bold.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/US-UK-size-comparison.jpg[/img]
I have a fifty mile round trip per day for work, paying roughly forty bucks a work-week in gas.[/QUOTE]
Can't really use a Mercator projection to compare area. Yes, the US is a lot larger and less dense population wise, but roads are still fairly concentrated around cities and so on - it's not like you put down pavement in every desert.
[QUOTE=TestECull;45146221]This passes and what precious few shreds of economic recovery we've seen disappear overnight. Drop the bill, it's a stupid idea.
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And yet we have some of the best quality pavement in the area. TDOT knows what they're doing and they're getting money from somewhere, 'cause the interstates in and around Nashville are all getting repaved quite nicely.[/QUOTE]
Tennessee also has some of the cheapest gas and cigarettes around.
[QUOTE=TestECull;45146221]This passes and what precious few shreds of economic recovery we've seen disappear overnight. Drop the bill, it's a stupid idea.
[editline]18th June 2014[/editline]
And yet we have some of the best quality pavement in the area. TDOT knows what they're doing and they're getting money from somewhere, 'cause the interstates in and around Nashville are all getting repaved quite nicely.[/QUOTE]
I-65 going through Montgomery AL is some of the worst stretch of pavement ever. I remember being in the U-Haul truck (Moving from Smyrna TN) and every 3 seconds just being sent to the roof because of the combination of no suspension in those garbage trucks, and the road. Like being a pilot doing aelron rolls without being strapped in
Soon as you get into TN they're pretty nice. Roadwork was always slow in TN IIRC but it has been 10 years since I've lived there. I've been told Smyrna has been swallowed by Nashville now.
Tennessee is a really nice state to live in, and gets better the further east you are in it, especially areas like Chattanooga and Gatlinburg. I think Chattanooga got Google Fiber or 300MB Cable or something like that not long ago as well
[QUOTE=SomeENG;45148673]Here's a picture I like to post every time someone says Americans shouldn't be bitching about gas prices.
[img]http://blog.old-and-bold.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/US-UK-size-comparison.jpg[/img]
I have a fifty mile round trip per day for work, paying roughly forty bucks a work-week in gas.[/QUOTE]
I live in Norway. I'm trying to get work in the city. It's ~30 miles away. To save money, instead of driving, I take the train. It takes 30 minutes, and it costs me $256 a month.
I commute shorter distances and pay nearly twice as much. That's a big chunk of the paycheck. Does that sound fair?
[quote]The gasoline tax now stands at 18.4 cents a gallon, and the diesel tax at 24.4 cents a gallon. The politically sensitive levies have not been increased since 1993.[/quote]
18.4 cents in 1993 had the same buying power as 30.2 cents does nowadays. If the tax were a rate based on overall price then I could understand why people would be upset, but if the tax is a flat value per gallon that isn't even keeping up with inflation then I don't see why they shouldn't raise it.
Gas prices in 1993 averaged [URL="http://www.lesjones.com/posts/002732.shtml"]$1.00 to $1.10[/URL] per gallon. That meant the taxes accounted for between 16.7% and 18.4% of the price of fuel. Today, gas prices average around $3.75 a gallon, which puts that tax at 4.9% of the fuel price, while that tax only has 61% the buying power it did in 1993. Even if the tax were increased to keep up with inflation, Americans would still be paying proportionally much less in taxes than we used to. Considering this tax accounts for a substantial amount of the money that funds road projects I don't think increasing it to keep up with inflation is unreasonable.
is it true that volkswagen makes a non-hybrid diesel hatchback that gets 70mpg in europe?
Fuck this shit. I like my truck you fuckers.
Yeah from the 10usd a gallon here, what like 75% of that is tax.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;45155021]it's not like you put down pavement in every desert.[/QUOTE]
We kinda do, since we have to connect the major cities to each other...
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Stop fucking whining. Our gas is almost 2.5 times as expensive and we're still buying it.
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[url]http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=gas+price+netherlands+vs+usa[/url]
Why don't Americans switch to more fuel efficient cars then if they have to drive long distances? I understand not many places actually sell diesel but a lot of petrol cars remapped to your fuel should be able to have a decent shot at good mileage.
Just genuinely curious.
[QUOTE=PyroCF;45164450]Why don't Americans switch to more fuel efficient cars then if they have to drive long distances? I understand not many places actually sell diesel but a lot of petrol cars remapped to your fuel should be able to have a decent shot at good mileage.
Just genuinely curious.[/QUOTE]
Because people like hearing the literal inefficiency that is the crossplane V8 petrol engine.
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