I guess they really took 'if you can't beat them, join them' to heart.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;50032984]I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows, is in fact, GNU/Windows, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows.[/QUOTE]
Appropriate green is my pepper avatar.
Hopefully more distros are supported because I haven't really been able to stand any apt based distros.
[QUOTE=eirexe;50033007]Wouldn't that be against the GPL? unless MS allows people to break their drm legally.[/QUOTE]
It's a joke about how Linux fans sometimes head too far into "no one cares" territory with their nerdery. Parodied in images like this.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Vwdionk.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;50033025]It's a joke about how Linux fans sometimes head too far into "no one cares" territory with their nerdery. Parodied in images like this.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Vwdionk.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I know the fucking stallman copypasta.
Now that I'm thinking, no one really uses windows for servers, except dumb people that think free software is bad because it's not propiertary.
[QUOTE=eirexe;50033068]I know the fucking stallman copypasta.
Now that I'm thinking, no one really uses windows for servers, except dumb people that think free software is bad because it's not propiertary.[/QUOTE]
my friends and i tried using windows server for our plex server since we got it free from our uni and it was a big hell
[QUOTE=eirexe;50033068]I know the fucking stallman copypasta.
Now that I'm thinking, no one really uses windows for servers, except dumb people that think free software is bad because it's not propiertary.[/QUOTE]
They're actually used quite a bit from the low to mid end. If a small/medium business has a server it's probably going to be Windows, and I mean active directory... A lot of specific server applications too. Many in the medical field.
[QUOTE=eirexe;50033068]I know the fucking stallman copypasta.
Now that I'm thinking, no one really uses windows for servers, except dumb people that think free software is bad because it's not propiertary.[/QUOTE]
As much as I love Linux Servers, Windows Servers still dominate in the Active Directory and And Mailserver (Exchange) part.
There is absolutely nothing that comes close to MS Exchange and Windows Server Active Directory, and you have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
[QUOTE=eirexe;50033068]Now that I'm thinking, no one really uses windows for servers, except dumb people that think free software is bad because it's not propiertary.[/QUOTE]
While those people exist, there's plenty of other reasons to use Windows on servers.
Windows client management / Active Directory / Office integration, third-party Windows-only software, maybe it's what you've been using for 10 years and you have no reason to spend tons of money on migrating, maybe your staff knows Windows best, maybe you've got good relations with MS customer support...
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did I just get ninja'd twice
[quote]Microsoft and Canonical will not, however, sources say, be integrating Linux per se into Windows. Instead, Ubuntu will primarily run on a foundation of native Windows libraries. [/quote]
So it doesn't really help Linux as a whole, just MS and Canonical?
[QUOTE=kaukassus;50033093]As much as I love Linux Servers, Windows Servers still dominate in the Active Directory and And Mailserver (Exchange) part.
There is absolutely nothing that comes close to MS Exchange and Windows Server Active Directory, and you have to pry them from my cold dead hands.[/QUOTE]
But come on you have postfix :v:
[sp]Coming from someone who formerly worked in a nationwide email provider using postfix[/sp]
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[QUOTE=DrTaxi;50033114]While those people exist, there's plenty of other reasons to use Windows on servers.
Windows client management / Active Directory / Office integration, third-party Windows-only software, maybe it's what you've been using for 10 years and you have no reason to spend tons of money on migrating, maybe your staff knows Windows best, maybe you've got good relations with MS customer support...
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did I just get ninja'd twice[/QUOTE]
There be IT ninjas all over.
Maybe in the near future my steam library will be supported on Linux
[QUOTE=Exploders;50033207]Maybe in the near future my steam library will be supported on Linux[/QUOTE]
Don't hold your breath guy
[QUOTE=Michael haxz;50033229]Don't hold your breath guy[/QUOTE]
Shut up you pessimist people, everyone knows that what people say linux won't have it ends up having, years ago people said that linux would never reach the basic driver compatiblity that other oses have mainly with network cards, but linux did it, linux also now has more games and more software than ever, and it will keep growing.
To be fair, you could use Azure Active Directory DS and a Linux server
[QUOTE=eirexe;50032950]Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.[/QUOTE]
Oh god, thanks for reminding me of Microsoft's long standing business method.
Now my joy has turned into terror.
[QUOTE=FlamingSpaz;50033120]So it doesn't really help Linux as a whole, just MS and Canonical?[/QUOTE]
Embrace, extend...
[QUOTE=nagachief;50033296]Oh god, thanks for reminding me of Microsoft's long standing business method.
Now my joy has turned into terror.[/QUOTE]
I think the GPL will protect us from some of that. But I dunno. At least GNU stuff doesn't use the BSD or MIT license where MS can come in, pillage what they want, and just leave like with what apple did to FreeBSD.
[QUOTE=Wii60;50032701][b]This will not be in a virtual machine, but as an integrated part of Windows 10.[/b][/QUOTE]
What kind of impact would this have (compared to it being in a virtual machine)?
Possible better performance, easier access to files on the hard drive
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I wonder, given that it's Canonical, could they have integrated LXD in Windows and used that to host Ubuntu? If so, they could bring most Linux's to it
[QUOTE=Surplus;50032934]I hope this means I can properly access linux partitions under windows.[/QUOTE]
Haven't had any issues using [URL="http://www.ext2fsd.com/"]ext2fsd[/URL].
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50033301]Embrace, extend...[/QUOTE]
[quote]First things first: breathe through your nose and out through your mouth. Don’t assume that this partnership is a portent of impending apocalypse.
It’s not.
Canonical and Microsoft have been working together closely for several years on cloud and server. Microsoft is also embracing Linux as a development platform. It released its Visual Studio Code application on Linux last year and recently acquired Xamarin, a company founded by the creators of Mono.
Lower your worn-handled pitchfork, and stop scrawling ‘Embrace, Extend, Extinguish’ on some old cardboard: this is unlikely to be the beginning of the end (based on what we know so far).
Fact is we know little officially about what’s planned. It could be that a few simple UNIX command line tools are made available in Microsoft’s command prompt tool — or it could open the flood gates to (some) Linux binaries running natively on Windows.
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From [url]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/microsoft-brings-ubuntu-to-windows-10[/url] , lets wait and see before we start assuming shit. If it turns out to be sinister, then all complaints are more than valid.
The keynote starts in just under an hour (or maybe an hour and a half, idk if this is pre-show start). You can watch it here [url]https://channel9.msdn.com/LiveEmbedPlayer/Build2016[/url] and we'll find out what exactly this partnership entails.
[QUOTE=helifreak;50033340]Haven't had any issues using [URL="http://www.ext2fsd.com/"]ext2fsd[/URL].[/QUOTE]
No btrfs or zfs in that, unfortunately. Some distros now use btrfs by default such as openSUSE and most allow you to use it (I use it, cause btrfs is gr8). Windowses lack of support for filesystem's is so annoying, we have no good USB filesystem because of that.
Mac does this too, to be fair.
[QUOTE=icemaz;50033351]From [url]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/microsoft-brings-ubuntu-to-windows-10[/url] , lets wait and see before we start assuming shit. If it turns out to be sinister, then all complaints are more than valid.
The keynote starts in just under an hour (or maybe an hour and a half, idk if this is pre-show start). You can watch it here [url]https://channel9.msdn.com/LiveEmbedPlayer/Build2016[/url] and we'll find out what exactly this partnership entails.[/QUOTE]
I see no universe in which linux at large can benefit from linux binaries running on windows, or Windows binaries running natively on Ubuntu specifically. It sounds to me exactly like the extend portion of embrace, extend, extinguish
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50033369]I see no universe in which linux at large can benefit from linux binaries running on windows, or Windows binaries running natively on Ubuntu specifically. It sounds to me exactly like the extend portion of embrace, extend, extinguish[/QUOTE]
All we know is that this is aimed at developers. It could just be a huge overstatement of Windows support on IOT devices like the Raspberry Pi, being able to run linux binaries to try and kickstart that platform. It could be a fully fledged smoothly integrated VM to Windows 10 Pro, or Windows supporting linux binaries.
these all sound fine to me. It becomes a problem is Microsoft acquires canonical (even though they have been working together for a few years now).
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;50033364]No btrfs or zfs in that, unfortunately. Some distros now use btrfs by default such as openSUSE and most allow you to use it (I use it, cause btrfs is gr8). Windowses lack of support for filesystem's is so annoying, we have no good USB filesystem because of that.
Mac does this too, to be fair.[/QUOTE]
Ah right, keep forgetting things other than EXT exist.
Judging by [URL="http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/microsoft-brings-ubuntu-to-windows-10"]this article[/URL], it sounds like they're only porting the userland over to Win32, like Cygwin.
[QUOTE]Ubuntu will primarily run on a foundation of native Windows libraries.[/QUOTE]
2016 year of the linux desktop? :v:
[QUOTE=Terminutter;50033630]2016 year of the linux desktop? :v:[/QUOTE]
Psssh. If Linux was so good, how come there's only been 4 linuxes, but 10 windows?
[QUOTE=eirexe;50033068]I know the fucking stallman copypasta.
Now that I'm thinking, no one really uses windows for servers, except dumb people that think free software is bad because it's not propiertary.[/QUOTE]
Oh god not another one of these. Not that this post being silly hasn't already been pointed out but some games do not have linux servers, so if you do games hosting in addition to other services and you don't want to limit your selection you'll be on windows server as well.
I guess this is from the insider build they mentioned?
[media]https://twitter.com/ow/status/715210794645000192[/media]
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