College presidents alarmed over Obama's cost-control plan - Polidicks

[QUOTE=peterson;34440501]You might I'm studying Audio Engineering. It helps to know the Physics and the science behind how sound works. It also would help with History, say to understand how Gun Powder works, or why the Apple fell on Newton's head. [editline]29th January 2012[/editline] I will continue posting. Thank you for your concern though.[/QUOTE] I'm studying Accounting. Why did I have to take Classical Music History, can you make a genius connection there?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34440251]I wish universities would explain as to why certain classes must be taken to get a degree. For example, I'm a history major and I'm required to take two science courses. Why? Science has nothing to do with history and I'm terrible at math (which a good portion of science involves). I ended up getting a D in chemistry and a C in biology which lowered my GPA. Thanks universities for requiring me to take courses that have nothing to do with my degree and ended up fucking me over! :)[/QUOTE] It's a part of being literate. Also, many of the concepts behind science are important concepts for history. Science at it's core is about skepticism, experimentation, and proper inquisition into hypotheses. If you became a historian these types of concepts are very important.

[QUOTE=Bentham;34441956]I'm studying Accounting. Why did I have to take Classical Music History, can you make a genius connection there?[/QUOTE] It's considered better to be a well rounded person.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34441991]It's a part of being literate. Also, many of the concepts behind science are important concepts for history. Science at it's core is about skepticism, experimentation, and proper inquisition into hypotheses. If you became a historian these types of concepts are very important.[/QUOTE] I think that you'd be hard pressed to find a legitimate field that doesn't use the scientific method and rationality techniques as a major part of it, though. [quote]In the 20th century, academic historians focused less on epic nationalistic narratives, which often tended to glorify the nation or individuals, to more objective and complex analyses of social and intellectual forces. [B]A major trend of historical methodology in the 20th century was a tendency to treat history more as a social science rather than as an art, which traditionally had been the case. [/B]Some of the leading advocates of history as a social science were a diverse collection of scholars which included Fernand Braudel, E. H. Carr, Fritz Fischer, Emmanuel Le Roy Ladurie, Hans-Ulrich Wehler, Bruce Trigger, Marc Bloch, Karl Dietrich Bracher, Peter Gay, Robert Fogel, Lucien Febvre and Lawrence Stone. Many of the advocates of history as a social science were or are noted for their multi-disciplinary approach. Braudel combined history with geography, Bracher history with political science, Fogel history with economics, Gay history with psychology, Trigger history with archeology while Wehler, Bloch, Fischer, Stone, Febvre and Le Roy Ladurie have in varying and differing ways amalgamated history with sociology, geography, anthropology, and economics. More recently, the field of digital history has begun to address ways of using computer technology to pose new questions to historical data and generate digital scholarship.[/quote] I do agree with your point though, which is why I included the rest of the extract to indicate all the different fields (sociology, economics, computer science etc) that are being used to augment history methodologies.

I wish something would be done about the costs of text books, its down right extortion when I have to pay $80 for something that's not much bigger than a chapter book.

[QUOTE=Saxon;34442359]I wish something would be done about the costs of text books, its down right extortion when I have to pay $80 for something that's not much bigger than a chapter book.[/QUOTE] my friend payed 70$ for what he thought was a book. ends up it was a key to get a PDF online :v:

[QUOTE=codemaster85;34442710]my friend payed 70$ for what he thought was a book. ends up it was a key to get a PDF online :v:[/QUOTE] Shit like this should be free, provided the amount of tuition students are paying to go to these crappy ass colleges

Yeah textbooks are a ripoff. I paid $140 for a book that [i]wasn't even bound[/i]. It had hole punches for a three ring binder. My total for books this semester was $400+. I guess it's just my luck though, since the previous two semesters had only required me to get 1 or 2 textbooks.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34441991]It's a part of being literate. Also, many of the concepts behind science are important concepts for history. Science at it's core is about skepticism, experimentation, and proper inquisition into hypotheses. If you became a historian these types of concepts are very important.[/QUOTE] But why then do I have to take "Historical Methods" course which I am in now, that specifically teaches about using the scientific method in studying history? :v:

You know, universities could always cut gen eds, by a LOT. People could probably get engineering degrees in 3 years or less if they cut all of those out. Also I'm at least grateful that merit-based aid even exists because if not for that even more middle class kids would be in debt up to their eyeballs. [QUOTE=Funcoot;34442160]It's considered better to be a well rounded person.[/QUOTE] The whole point of public school is to do that for you, make you generally knowledgeable and make an educated citizenry. If public schools actually did that, universities wouldn't have to. [QUOTE=TheCloak;34445051]Shit like this should be free, provided the amount of tuition students are paying to go to these crappy ass colleges[/QUOTE] Public universities act like private businesses towards you, they don't give a shit, you are a number, and they will nickel and dime you to death. Oh who am I kidding it's not like private universities are any better with this, unless they're tiny or something.

Fuck universities. As if it's not enough that I pay $500+ every semester on books that the school either ends up not taking back or giving me about ten dollars per book for, they make me pay for the dumbass jocks that get through on a base-C average that the professors give them so they can continue their sports scholarships.

[QUOTE=Funcoot;34442160]It's considered better to be a well rounded person.[/QUOTE] There are two types of degrees. A bachelor of arts, which is intended to make you more well rounded and give you a minor. And a bachelor of science, which is a focused study without a minor. AND YET THEY BOTH TAKE EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.

[QUOTE=GunFox;34440044]Then fire everyone for making such a generally fucking awful education system. [B]If a four year degree could waste any more of my time with useless classes, I don't see how.[/B] I wish we'd just switch over to trade schools.[/QUOTE] You think that's bad? I got a degree already. I'm going for another one. Guess how many of those "useless classes" transfer?

[QUOTE=codemaster85;34442710]my friend payed 70$ for what he thought was a book. ends up it was a key to get a PDF online :v:[/QUOTE] Oh you want ridiculous shit? I bought a PDF under the assumption that the University was distributing it as a downloadable file. Instead on the end of my receipt I got a URL and a key code to view the PDF online for 160 days from a third party site.