• Chelsea Manning allowed to have hormone therapy
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This shit is why I hate recruiters. This thing should have never been allowed in the military, let alone gain a top secret clearance. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Transphobia, ban history" - SteveUK))[/highlight] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("threadshitting" - OvB))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Prismatex;47152020]There's something that just rubs me the wrong way about cis people deciding who is and isn't trans. Not every trans person experiences dysphoria about their body or genitals. [URL]http://genderterror.com/2014/04/15/dysphoria-not-required/[/URL] [URL]http://www.lambdalegal.org/know-your-rights/transgender/transition-related-care-faq#q2[/URL][/QUOTE] We're talking about medical science here, not a bunch of confused people complaining on blogs. Cis people don't decide who is and isn't trans. That's up to nature. Transsexualism has identifiable causes which occur primarily during fetal development. Understanding this and classifying them is the progressive way to help trans people. I've checked around and I haven't seen any trans people who don't feel dysphoria.
[QUOTE=Fourier;47140022]That is weird as fuck, he goes to prison because of whistleblowing and then suddenly he wants to be she. I realize he was gay but that is weird stuff, is it possible brainwashing? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Transphobia, homophobia" - SteveUK))[/highlight][/QUOTE] I know this post was dumb as hell, but saying it was transphobic or homophobic is a stretch imo.
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;47152199]I know this post was dumb as hell, but saying it was transphobic or homophobic is a stretch imo.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure deliberately using the incorrect pronouns is transphobia.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;47152214]Pretty sure deliberately using the incorrect pronouns is transphobia.[/QUOTE] In this case, i think it was just ignorance.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152178]This shit is why I hate recruiters. This thing should have never been allowed in the military, let alone gain a top secret clearance.[/QUOTE] you're saying transgender people are 'things' ?
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;47152214]Pretty sure deliberately using the incorrect pronouns is transphobia.[/QUOTE] Don't you mean correct pronouns? And here's the part where I get banned, because dissent is an affront to your social-liberal hugboxes. This place is almost worse than tumblr. [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Saturn V;47152258]you're saying transgender people are 'things' ?[/QUOTE] He'd be less than a human being even if he didn't think he was a woman.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152268]Don't you mean correct pronouns? And here's the part where I get banned, because dissent is an affront to your social-liberal hugboxes. This place is almost worse than tumblr. [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] He'd be less than a human being even if he didn't think he was a woman.[/QUOTE] haha no you just hate transgender people
[QUOTE=Saturn V;47152305]haha no you just hate transgender people[/QUOTE] I don't hate schizophrenics, I don't hate people with chronic depression. I'm an asshole because I see a society feeding into destructive delusions.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152268]Don't you mean correct pronouns? And here's the part where I get banned, because dissent is an affront to your social-liberal hugboxes. This place is almost worse than tumblr.[/QUOTE] She has a genuine medical condition that should be given treatment. It's not a social issue at all. Are you the sort of person to go around making fun of people in wheelchairs?
[QUOTE=Deng;47152321]She has a genuine medical condition that should be given treatment. It's not a social issue at all. Are you the sort of person to go around making fun of people in wheelchairs?[/QUOTE] I hate him because he's a traitor, I don't hate him because he has a problem.
nah i'm pretty sure you're just using that as a scapegoat to hate on her transgenderism
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152345]I hate him because he's a traitor, I don't hate him because he has a problem.[/QUOTE] Naw I think you're just using that as an excuse to be a scumbag.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;47152355]nah i'm pretty sure you're just using that as a scapegoat to hate on her transgenderism[/QUOTE] Well yeah, I wouldn't say I'm pro-schizophrenia either. I'm not fond of the condition but hating schizophrenia doesn't mean I hate schizophrenics either.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152375]Well yeah, I wouldn't say I'm pro-schizophrenia either. I'm not fond of the condition but hating schizophrenia doesn't mean I hate schizophrenics either.[/QUOTE] might as well just admit it now
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152375]Well yeah, I wouldn't say I'm pro-schizophrenia either. I'm not fond of the condition but hating schizophrenia doesn't mean I hate schizophrenics either.[/QUOTE] This is possibly the most awkward attempt to say "ewww they think their penises should be vagoos" without saying it I've ever seen. Good work, you're just terrible.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152178]This shit is why I hate recruiters. This thing should have never been allowed in the military, let alone gain a top secret clearance.[/QUOTE] Holy shit.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152268]Don't you mean correct pronouns? And here's the part where I get banned, because dissent is an affront to your social-liberal hugboxes. This place is almost worse than tumblr. [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] He'd be less than a human being even if he didn't think he was a woman.[/QUOTE] what does respecting someone's identity have anything to do with tumblr?
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152375]Well yeah, I wouldn't say I'm pro-schizophrenia either. I'm not fond of the condition but hating schizophrenia doesn't mean I hate schizophrenics either.[/QUOTE] What the fuck do you mean by "I'm not fond of the condition"? It's not like people have a choice.
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152375]Well yeah, I wouldn't say I'm pro-schizophrenia either. I'm not fond of the condition but hating schizophrenia doesn't mean I hate schizophrenics either.[/QUOTE] using he instead of she, implying transgender people are just schizophrenics i have no words
[QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152345]I hate him because he's a traitor, I don't hate him because he has a problem.[/QUOTE] Technically it's "she".
[QUOTE=Wiggles;47152425]What the fuck do you mean by "I'm not fond of the condition"? It's not like people have a choice.[/QUOTE] Nobody asked to be constantly miserable or hear voices in their hear either. These have physical effects on the brain but we don't encourage them. [QUOTE=LordCrypto;47152427]using he instead of she, implying transgender people are just schizophrenics i have no words[/QUOTE] I'm actually implying that transgenderism is a mental condition like schizophrenia, but nowhere near the severity, of course. [QUOTE=Deng;47152440]Technically it's "she".[/QUOTE] At last I truly see! Thank you for reforming me from my ignorance, o' holy PC warrior.
I always get sad when I see people removed from discussions simply for having opposing views to the majority. Regardless of their views.
[QUOTE=Kardia;47152599]I always get sad when I see people removed from discussions simply for having opposing views to the majority. Regardless of their views.[/QUOTE] There's a diference between 'Different views' and 'Being a piece of shit who thinks transgender people aren't human'.
[QUOTE=Kardia;47152599]I always get sad when I see people removed from discussions simply for having opposing views to the majority. Regardless of their views.[/QUOTE] Uhh if it's a completely toxic and willfully ignorant view then no, not really
[QUOTE=Kardia;47152599]I always get sad when I see people removed from discussions simply for having opposing views to the majority. Regardless of their views.[/QUOTE] Then get madder because bigotry doesn't fly here. Having "opposing views" that are actively hurting people and refusing to either argue or listen to others who aren't being piles of fuck isn't on.
[QUOTE=Kardia;47152599]I always get sad when I see people removed from discussions simply for having opposing views to the majority. Regardless of their views.[/QUOTE] hate speech != opposing views
[QUOTE=Kardia;47152599]I always get sad when I see people removed from discussions simply for having opposing views to the majority. Regardless of their views.[/QUOTE] Maybe if their "opposing views" weren't against the forum rules they wouldn't get banned. I don't get why some people think that their opinion is above forum rules.
The last 6 posts have been about quoting the same person, I think we all get it you all want blood.
I'm sorry for making you people feel bad, but I still think it's just an opinion that Awper held that got them banned. Not hate-speech. [QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152178]This shit is why I hate recruiters. This thing should have never been allowed in the military, let alone gain a top secret clearance.[/QUOTE] Calling Chelsea a "thing" shows a visceral hatred, but the hatred is not related to transgenderism. It's due to another reason. [QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152268]Don't you mean correct pronouns? And here's the part where I get banned, because dissent is an affront to your social-liberal hugboxes. This place is almost worse than tumblr.[/QUOTE] This was brilliantly prophetic. [QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152268]He'd be less than a human being even if he didn't think he was a woman.[/QUOTE] Here Awper implied that Chelsea is a terrible person due to something other than gender identity. This statement is clear and shows Awper has a level of hatred towards Chelsea for some reason, but not due to transphobia. [QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152345]I hate him because he's a traitor, I don't hate him because he has a problem.[/QUOTE] There we have it. Awper's declaration of reasoning. I understand that it's disputable, maybe Awper is lying, but Awper is innocent until proven guilty. [QUOTE=AwpersAreBad;47152375]Well yeah, I wouldn't say I'm pro-schizophrenia either. I'm not fond of the condition but hating schizophrenia doesn't mean I hate schizophrenics either.[/QUOTE] Awper considers transgenderism a disorder. Is that hate-speech? Or is it an opinion? Should they be banned for this belief?
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