Breaking: Small plane crashes into Austin, Texas office building.
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[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;20296055]Also, I'm going to post this quote. Not that I'm advocating violence, just putting this out here.
Thomas Jefferson wrote that, granted he didn't fly planes into buildings or anything.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree, except flying planes into buildings full of workers who are just trying to make a living, just like he was, is far from the way.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;20296055]Also, I'm going to post this quote. Not that I'm advocating violence, just putting this out here.
Thomas Jefferson wrote that, granted he didn't fly planes into buildings or anything.[/QUOTE]
As much as I hate them, this is why we have guns and I support the 2nd amendment.
Anyone else notice this thing is getting more and more like the lost script of Fight Club?
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;20297171]Anyone else notice this thing is getting more and more like the lost script of Fight Club?[/QUOTE]
Frighteningly yes. I was thinking the exact same thing. I don't want to claim this guy was a martyr, but his ideals... he was right.
Others have already claimed him as a martyr. The similarities to Fight Club have already been noted. Like I said, "His name was Andrew Stack" is already catching on.
[QUOTE=Detective P;20297402]Others have already claimed him as a martyr. The similarities to Fight Club have already been noted. Like I said, "His name was Andrew Stack" is already catching on.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't it be cool if people caught on to this and this was the beginning of a revolution of reforms in our congress and nation in general? I think the media will just scream that he was a socialist terrorist and it won't help anything however.
This is the funniest news story I've read all day.
They're going to audit his funeral costs.
[QUOTE=Valnar;20288664]Damn I live in Austin and I didn't find out about this till a few min ago.
Wow I also live within 8 miles of the crash.[/QUOTE]
I'm in 78704 motherfucker.
:smug: south side.
His time came.
[QUOTE=The Grim Reaper;20298608]His time came.[/QUOTE]
Heh.
It's funny because your name is the grim reaper, and that's something he might say if he were real.
He was an angry man, disillusioned and depressed with his life and the system he blamed for putting it on there. I find it amusing he ended it with this
The Communist Creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need
The Capitalist Creed: From each according to his gulliblity, to each according to his greed
While I agree with that sentiment, how exactly is going to crash a plane into an IRS building that houses simple workers going to get to that? Much less, why would anyone advocating disillusionment with the economic and social scene in this country, the materialistic aspects and money problems, have any business with a private plane? Much less even living such a bourgeoisie existence until the shit hit the fan? He was afraid of his life being destroyed and tried to find things and people to blame.
So to me, he was just crazy, delusional, depressed, and disillusioned.
Guy was a batshit crazy tax evader. Case closed.
[QUOTE=MercZ;20299523]He was an angry man, disillusioned and depressed with his life and the system he blamed for putting it on there. I find it amusing he ended it with this
The Communist Creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need
The Capitalist Creed: From each according to his gulliblity, to each according to his greed
While I agree with that sentiment, how exactly is going to crash a plane into an IRS building that houses simple workers going to get to that? Much less, why would anyone advocating disillusionment with the economic and social scene in this country, the materialistic aspects and money problems, have any business with a private plane? Much less even living such a bourgeoisie existence until the shit hit the fan? He was afraid of his life being destroyed and tried to find things and people to blame.
So to me, he was just crazy, delusional, depressed, and disillusioned.[/QUOTE]
Hardly crazy, I think he had a really realistic view, if not pessimistic; of our government. Well I guess he was crazy, I mean he can't justify murder.
A flash game was made in this man's honor
[url]http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/528055[/url]
May IRS burn.
[QUOTE=Zak1392;20288152]9/11 2: Return of the Planes[/QUOTE]
[B][I]9/11 3: The Planes Strike Back.[/I][/B]
[I][B]In theaters soon.[/B][/I]
not really a sequel, more like a fan film.
I don't know, maybe the guy wasn't so crazy. I bet if he had burned his house down with no one in it and called in a bomb threat before the plane crashed into the building thus ensuring no fatalities we could be looking at this in an entirely different way.
But he kind of screwed it for himself.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;20296660]
Who cares. He's dead now, no trial needed.[/QUOTE]
That´s not the point. It´s just that people are saying "this was fortunately not a terrorist attack", on the grounds that he was an american and not some guy from the middle east. What if he would have chosen a skyscraper to crash into? Would people still look at the situation with less fear/anger/whatever than they would if the attacker would be from some middle eastern country?
This is basically 9/11 on a smaller scale. You´ve got someone who´s pissed at america, a plane and a building. Try and convince me how this shouldn´t be considered a terror-attack.
[QUOTE=Sir Killalot;20302636]That´s not the point. It´s just that people are saying "this was fortunately not a terrorist attack", on the grounds that he was an american and not some guy from the middle east. What if he would have chosen a skyscraper to crash into? Would people still look at the situation with less fear/anger/whatever than they would if the attacker would be from some middle eastern country?
This is basically 9/11 on a smaller scale. You´ve got someone who´s pissed at america, a plane and a building. Try and convince me how this shouldn´t be considered a terror-attack.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Wikipedia]
[B]Terrorism[/B] is the systematic use of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear"]terror[/URL] especially as a means of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercion"]coercion[/URL].
[/quote]
Well, the definition of terrorism is basically that, using terror as a means of coersion. This guy wasn't coercing anything, he was pissed enough at the IRS to the point of suicide/homicide. It's just his method of carrying it out that's spectacular.
Now, if he wanted to, say, take a roomful of people hostage demanding the IRS forego collection on his payments or he starts shooting people, than that would be terrorism. But this fortunately(or unfortunately, your mileage may vary here), this wasn't a terrorist act.
I can't see burning down my own house a good way to cope with stress.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;20301413][B][I]9/11 3: The Planes Strike Back.[/I][/B]
[I][B]In theaters soon.[/B][/I][/QUOTE]
[I][B]9/11: The Phantom Plane
Ruining the 9/11 Franchise in a theater near you.[/I][/B]
[QUOTE=farmatyr;20288325]All those sirens, highlighted text and Fox News signs made me laugh for some reason.[/QUOTE]
It just seemed like classic fox.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;20303029]Well, the definition of terrorism is basically that, using terror as a means of coersion. This guy wasn't coercing anything, he was pissed enough at the IRS to the point of suicide/homicide. It's just his method of carrying it out that's spectacular.[/QUOTE]
It says "especially." Not "always."
In any case he was trying to coerce the IRS to stop taxing people about as much as al-Qaeda were trying to coerce the U.S. to stop fucking with the middle east.
Has anyone asked the pilot his opinion on this crash? I mean he is probably as broken up about it as you guys are.
[QUOTE=MercZ;20299523]He was an angry man, disillusioned and depressed with his life and the system he blamed for putting it on there. I find it amusing he ended it with this
The Communist Creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need
The Capitalist Creed: From each according to his gulliblity, to each according to his greed
While I agree with that sentiment, how exactly is going to crash a plane into an IRS building that houses simple workers going to get to that? Much less, why would anyone advocating disillusionment with the economic and social scene in this country, the materialistic aspects and money problems, have any business with a private plane? Much less even living such a bourgeoisie existence until the shit hit the fan? He was afraid of his life being destroyed and tried to find things and people to blame.
So to me, he was just crazy, delusional, depressed, and disillusioned.[/QUOTE]
personal possessions are not bourgeois. and how was his existence bourgeois?
[QUOTE=Conscript;20308263]personal possessions are not bourgeois. and how was his existence bourgeois?[/QUOTE]
Because he had a private plane. If he had one of those he is obviously doing very well for himself.
Or an incredibly reckless spender, possibly.
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And too stupid to sell it.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;20308629]Because he had a private plane. If he had one of those he is obviously doing very well for himself.[/QUOTE]
marxism doesn't distinguish classes based on wealth. that's too subjective. in marxist theory, classes are distinguished on their relationship to the means of production. Stack might have been a wealthy proletarian, but that doesn't change the fact that he was a proletarian. he did not own a slice of the means of production and employ others to work it for him.
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