• Iraqi militia captures ISIS militant, asks Instagram to decide his fate
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Bleeding heart liberals have a disconnection with reality, what's a matter of military etiquette is being treated as a war crime. The IS militants wouldn't hesitate to drown, rape and kill people in their way all the while using children to execute prisoners of war for propaganda. You have the right to life up until you remove it from others. You reap what you sow, and this bane on society is going to reap hell fire and people find pity? I'm in the twilight zone.
[QUOTE=KonorB;50023869]This isn't even a war, a war is a conflict between two countries. ISIS is not a country, so your so called "prisoners of war" rules doesn't apply here. We can do whatever we like to them.[/QUOTE] it's not the fact that it's a war crime that makes it stick out, it's the fact that they care so little either way as to put it up to an instagram poll. i mean if it was just revenge would they really have stopped to ask the internet of all things? would they not have just blown his brains out or something? it really just smacks of a bunch of bored militiamen with an iPhone and a captive more than any act of justice or retribution, which is really not something you want to be condoning considering these kinds of militias are often [URL="https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/iraq/report-iraq/"]corrupt as fuck, run extremely crooked torture-based trials, and engage in Sunni cleansings and reprisal killings of civilians semi-frequently[/URL].
[QUOTE=Captain James;50024131]Bleeding heart liberals have a disconnection with reality, what's a matter of military etiquette is being treated as a war crime. The IS militants wouldn't hesitate to drown, rape and kill people in their way all the while using children to execute prisoners of war for propaganda. You have the right to life up until you remove it from others. You reap what you sow, and this bane on society is going to reap hell fire and people find pity? I'm in the twilight zone.[/QUOTE] KILL MAIM DESTROY, in so many words
ReEducation by the internet. The power of anime compels you. Still harilous that they are deciding his fate this way, Kinda feel sorry at the sametime.
[QUOTE=Captain James;50024131]Bleeding heart liberals have a disconnection with reality, what's a matter of military etiquette is being treated as a war crime. The IS militants wouldn't hesitate to drown, rape and kill people in their way all the while using children to execute prisoners of war for propaganda. You have the right to life up until you remove it from others. You reap what you sow, and this bane on society is going to reap hell fire and people find pity? I'm in the twilight zone.[/QUOTE] Killing/torturing prisoners is pretty stupid, regardless of what they have done. If the enemy knows that they are going to have a very miserable time (worse or equal death) after surrendering, why should they surrender at all? They would rather fight until they or the opponent are dead, which increases the amount of casualties on both sides. It has nothing to do with being liberal. The military etiquette doesn't just exist because of human dignity, it exists because it also makes sense from a strategic standpoint.
[QUOTE=Captain James;50024131]Bleeding heart liberals have a disconnection with reality, what's a matter of military etiquette is being treated as a war crime. The IS militants wouldn't hesitate to drown, rape and kill people in their way all the while using children to execute prisoners of war for propaganda. You have the right to life up until you remove it from others. You reap what you sow, and this bane on society is going to reap hell fire and people find pity? I'm in the twilight zone.[/QUOTE] youre saying the exact same thing about them that theyre saying about you, but somehow theyre the savages and youre not. god damn those liberals, ruining everything. its all their fault
Just waiting for a bunch of sudden new, no post, no profile pic names with random characters suddenly appear voting "no"
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50022909]Turn him over to the Iraqi government, let them deal with him.[/QUOTE] So, kill him?
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;50024480]youre saying the exact same thing about them that theyre saying about you, but somehow theyre the savages and youre not. god damn those liberals, ruining everything. its all their fault[/QUOTE] There is a difference between saying "Kill the civilians!" and "Kill those who are actively killing civilians!" He's still unhinged from reality with the liberals remark but no the two are not equivalent.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;50024480]youre saying the exact same thing about them that theyre saying about you, but somehow theyre the savages and youre not. god damn those liberals, ruining everything. its all their fault[/QUOTE] Yes, they are savages and I am not for the sole reason I am not going out of my way to initiate conflict and death. This is a reaction to a perceived injustice, and you can argue the grey area all you want but they're murdering, raping and destroying people and historical sites. You cannot legibly tell me with the power to reason and employ a Socratic method of thinking that there do not exist people in the west right now who are turning a blind eye saying the real victims of terrorism are the terrorists themselves for a pity party.
why waste time asking ? just extract all needed information and then think hard what would the 'other' side do in your place oh wait, they already proved they enjoy executing prisoners and civilians ... they have no human rights rules and the only belief the other side has is that they have right to kill you as infidels, non-believers w/o any mercy sadly, there is only 1 solution vs such fanatical groups
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50022909]Turn him over to the Iraqi government, let them deal with him.[/QUOTE] Even if they did put him in prison, Iraqi jails are definitely not secure. Just last May, ISIS organized a jail break that resulted in 40 prisoners escaped, 50 prisoners killed, and 12 police officers killed
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What absolute savagery. Just because your enemy does it, doesn't make it right for you to act the same way. Executing prisoners is absolute disgusting and should be frowned upon in almost any situation. Of course, this is the middle east we are talking about the biggest shithole on this planet next to countries with war in Africa. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And if you support this, you are acting/thinking in a similar fashion as ISIS at least in the aspect of prisoners.
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;50025064]What absolute savagery. Just because your enemy does it, doesn't make it right for you to act the same way. Executing prisoners is absolute disgusting and should be frowned upon in almost any situation. Of course, this is the middle east we are talking about the biggest shithole on this planet next to countries with war in Africa. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And if you support this, you are acting/thinking in a similar fashion as ISIS at least in the aspect of prisoners.[/QUOTE] So what do you think should be done? Remember, these people have limited resources and if they let the prisoner go, he'll go back to ISIS and tell them where the militia captured him
[QUOTE=Captain James;50024131]Bleeding heart liberals have a disconnection with reality, what's a matter of military etiquette is being treated as a war crime. The IS militants wouldn't hesitate to drown, rape and kill people in their way all the while using children to execute prisoners of war for propaganda. You have the right to life up until you remove it from others. You reap what you sow, and this bane on society is going to reap hell fire and people find pity? I'm in the twilight zone.[/QUOTE] I suppose that bleeding hearts liberals are a bit disconnected from reality when they criticize militiamen for putting up an instagram poll asking whenever or not they should shoot a man in the head.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50025079]So what do you think should be done? Remember, these people have limited resources and if they let the prisoner go, he'll go back to ISIS and tell them where the militia captured him[/QUOTE] First of all, not make it a fucking vote. That alone is just disturbing and using prisoners executions in a similar propaganda way as ISIS. Secondly, how do you know they don't have a place/resources to imprison him. But just straight up saying "execute him cause he fought for isis" is just fucked up. I am not saying letting him go either though. But alot of this is disturbing because it shows that these militia will be problems later on.
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;50025105]First of all, not make it a fucking vote. That alone is just disturbing and using prisoners executions in a similar propaganda way as ISIS. Secondly, how do you know they don't have a place/resources to imprison him. But just straight up saying "execute him cause he fought for isis" is just fucked up. I am not saying letting him go either though. But alot of this is disturbing because it shows that these militia will be problems later on.[/QUOTE] Generally militias don't have the spare resources to maintain prisoners who aren't really important and that would end up requiring some sacrifice on the part of the militia. This guy seems like some unimportant grunt. Pretty much the only choice is to kill him or let him go.
[QUOTE=Occlusion;50022887]Stooping to the level of the enemy doesn't end well. Keep him prisoner and have him tried for war crimes.[/QUOTE] Oh yea that always works right On a serious note keeping him prisoner to exchange him later (if that ever happens) makes sense.
Taking them prisoner is stupid, every few months an Iraqi prison is raided, hundreds of militants escape, guards are killed, and no "rehabilitation" occurs.
While he deserves a trial and justice under the law, wouldn't he get the death penalty anyway?
Well, we all know the outcome. :happy::suicide:
First pictures are fake, whole account is probably fake. Old pictures with new captions.
These Iraqi militia are more than willing to stoop to the same levels of barbarity as ISIS. But we're ok with it because they're on our side.
What fucking moral high ground do we have to be in a war with Isis if we commend this militia for doing the same thing as isis?
Do we really want to drop down to ISIS' level?
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