• Six Year Old Brings Gun To School - Shoots Three Kids By Accident
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[QUOTE=Magistrate;29300255]we should create a system where only responsible and mentally stable people can get a hold of a fire arm[/QUOTE] well they dont know how he got it though :v:
[QUOTE=Magistrate;29300255]we should create a system where only responsible and mentally stable people can get a hold of a fire arm[/QUOTE] We should create a system where guns are not needed for home security. One reason these kids can get their hands on these guns is because the owners want to be able to reach the gun quickly and easy if there's an invader around. most countries already have this sorted out! We (from Sweden) don't have a single real gun anywhere around and we're not fearing for our lives. we even have a youth detention center nearby!
[QUOTE=GreenLeaf;29302095]We should create a system where guns are not needed for home security. One reason these kids can get their hands on these guns is because the owners want to be able to reach the gun quickly and easy if there's an invader around. most countries already have this sorted out! We (from Sweden) don't have a single real gun anywhere around and we're not fearing for our lives. we even have a youth detention center nearby![/QUOTE] I can't tell if you are joking or serious and I'm trying really hard
[QUOTE=Magistrate;29300255]we should create a system where only responsible and mentally stable people can get a hold of a fire arm[/QUOTE] usa already has something like that and trust me it barely works
I couldn't even get a handgun here if I wanted to but a kindergarten student in Texas can.
Rather than hide the gun away, you should teach the kid how to use it with proper firearm instruction. And tell him of the consequences of gun use.
I couldn't help but chuckle when I saw that it was in Texas, sorry to stereotype. :v:
Sheesh, that's gotta suck for those kids.
And that's what locked chests and trigger locks are for people!
[QUOTE=GreenLeaf;29302095]We should create a system where guns are not needed for home security. One reason these kids can get their hands on these guns is because the owners want to be able to reach the gun quickly and easy if there's an invader around. most countries already have this sorted out! We (from Sweden) don't have a single real gun anywhere around and we're not fearing for our lives. we even have a youth detention center nearby![/QUOTE] In the states 2.98 out of 100 000 (9146/307006550) citizens were murdered with firearms. In Sweden that number was 0.514 (48/9340682) and that's for murder, manslaughter and assault with a deadly outcome. I do not know if the source for the states includes them aswell. So the states has AT LEAST 5.8 times more murders with firearms per capita. Sources: [url]http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_20.html[/url] [url]http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFPopulation[/url] [url]http://www.bra.se/extra/pod/?action=pod_show&module_instance=21&id=526&statsType=100&statsCounty=La&Year=2009&type=1[/url] [url]http://www.scb.se/Pages/PressRelease____287538.aspx[/url] Is my math wrong? Because I can't see any reason to rate this dumb as it's only facts and not opinions.
He just wanted to get rid of his bullies..
[QUOTE=Lalelalala;29302693]In the states 2.98 out of 100 000 (9146/307006550) citizens were murdered with firearms. In Sweden that number was 0.514 (48/9340682) and that's for murder, manslaughter and assault with a deadly outcome. I do not know if the source for the states includes them aswell. So the states has AT LEAST 5.8 times more murders with firearms per capita. Sources: [url]http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_20.html[/url] [url]http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFPopulation[/url] [url]http://www.bra.se/extra/pod/?action=pod_show&module_instance=21&id=526&statsType=100&statsCounty=La&Year=2009&type=1[/url] [url]http://www.scb.se/Pages/PressRelease____287538.aspx[/url][/QUOTE] I know this is going to sound racist but I'm going to go ahead and say that it might have something to do with the United States' considerably larger black community. it might not be all of it but I'm sure it's at least some of it.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;29302969]I know this is going to sound racist but I'm going to go ahead and say that it might have something to do with the United States' considerably larger black community. it might not be all of it but I'm sure it's at least some of it.[/QUOTE] i'm pretty sure it has to do with the fact that there's a much large poverty situation in the united states which includes a majority of black people in america
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;29302969]I know this is going to sound racist but I'm going to go ahead and say that it might have something to do with the United States' considerably larger black community. it might not be all of it but I'm sure it's at least some of it.[/QUOTE] Not only does that sound racist, it is racist. The reason blacks are overrepresented has nothing to do with the fact that they are black. How anyone can ever believe that is beyond me. I bet that in the foreseeable future racism will be a treatable mental disorder.
[QUOTE=Lalelalala;29303119]Not only does that sound racist, it is racist. The reason blacks are overrepresented has nothing to do with the fact that they are black. How anyone can ever believe that is beyond me. I bet that in the foreseeable future racism will be a treatable mental disorder.[/QUOTE] I DONT LIKE YOUR OPINION THEREFORE ITS A MENTAL DISORDER I chuckle at your logic
Another example of great modern parenting
[QUOTE=Aman V;29303199]I DONT LIKE YOUR OPINION THEREFORE ITS A MENTAL DISORDER I chuckle at your logic[/QUOTE] Racism is fallacious and based off of irrational fear or hatred based on a single distinctive trait of a human; sounds close enough to a mental disorder to me.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;29303273]Racism is fallacious and based off of irrational fear or hatred based on a single distinctive trait of a human; sounds close enough to a mental disorder to me.[/QUOTE] Illogical beliefs are a part of human nature. If it were a mental disorder, we would have to put most of the world in the asylum. :v:
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;29303362]Illogical beliefs are a part of human nature. If it were a mental disorder, we would have to put most of the world in the asylum. :v:[/QUOTE] Irrational fear or hatred are symptoms of a mental disorder. That's what I'm referring to.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;29302654]And that's what locked chests and trigger locks are for people![/QUOTE] It's Texas
Only in America.
[QUOTE=Lalelalala;29303119]Not only does that sound racist, it is racist. The reason blacks are overrepresented has nothing to do with the fact that they are black. How anyone can ever believe that is beyond me. I bet that in the foreseeable future racism will be a treatable mental disorder.[/QUOTE] poor white people are raised differently than poor black people. I'm not basing what I said off personal beliefs, but actual fact. I could have worded it better I'm sure, I don't claim to be the most articulate man out there. I've got nothing against black people but you can't deny that the races are raised in different environments. It's likely that they're raised differently due to racism (directly or indirectly I couldn't accurately tell you), but not by any means my own.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;29303273]Racism is fallacious and based off of irrational fear or hatred based on a single distinctive trait of a human; sounds close enough to a mental disorder to me.[/QUOTE] Except its not. It's their opinion and they're entitled to it no matter how retarded it may be.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;29302969]I know this is going to sound racist but I'm going to go ahead and say that it might have something to do with the United States' considerably larger black community. it might not be all of it but I'm sure it's at least some of it.[/QUOTE] Right, do you have any proof that a significantly higher percentage of firearm related deaths are caused by blacks? Even with that, it wouldn't rule out socioeconomic factors which are much more likely to be the major players.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;29303388]Irrational fear or hatred are symptoms of a mental disorder. That's what I'm referring to.[/QUOTE] They can be symptoms. That dosn't mean they always are though.
[QUOTE=Aman V;29303427]Except its not. It's their opinion and their entitled to it no matter how retarded it may be.[/QUOTE] People are entitled to think that voices talk to them at night and that the FBI is tracking them covertly, doesn't change the fact that they're exhibiting the symptoms of schizophrenia, a mental disorder. [QUOTE=Psychokitten;29303439]They can be symptoms. That dosn't mean they always are though.[/QUOTE] I'm not looking to add racism to the DSM or whatever, but some of its characteristics are like the symptoms of other mental disorders.
[QUOTE=Aman V;29303199]I DONT LIKE YOUR OPINION THEREFORE ITS A MENTAL DISORDER I chuckle at your logic[/QUOTE] Hey I'm best bros with God. We talk all the time, he's a cool dude. THAT'S NOT A MENTAL DISORDER! THAT'S HIS OPINION! I chuckle at your logic.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;29303425]poor white people are raised differently than poor black people. I'm not basing what I said off personal beliefs, but actual fact. I could have worded it better I'm sure, I don't claim to be the most articulate man out there. I've got nothing against black people but you can't deny that the races are raised in different environments. It's likely that they're raised differently due to racism (directly or indirectly I couldn't accurately tell you), but not by any means my own.[/QUOTE] Erm, no, poor white or hispanic or asian persons living in the ghetto are just as likely to be motivated to join a gang (which is what I'm guessing you're getting at) as blacks; it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the environment.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;29303572]Erm, no, poor white or hispanic or asian persons living in the ghetto are just as likely to be motivated to join a gang (which is what I'm guessing you're getting at) as blacks; it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the environment.[/QUOTE] as a poor white man who lived in the ghetto as a child and who never joined any gangs I'm going to go ahead and say you're partially wrong. the part where you're right is that it has nothing to do with race. I never said that race was a direct cause. I don't know why you morons keep shoving words into my mouth but that's not the way to have a good debate. [editline]19th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lalelalala;29303559]Hey I'm best bros with God. We talk all the time, he's a cool dude. THAT'S NOT A MENTAL DISORDER! THAT'S HIS OPINION! I chuckle at your logic.[/QUOTE] and you're bringing religion into the argument
I'm kinda confused. I obviously understand hiding and securing your home defence weapon from children... but surely if it is hidden and secured [i]so[/i] well it ceases to be a home defence weapon? If someone bursts into your home and you are aware of this, the minute or two it takes to get to the closet, get your top-shelf box down, unlock the box, unlock the trigger lock, load the weapon etc... I dunno this kinda seems to defeat the purpose of having a weapon for home defence to me. Surely it'd be more efficient to just really send home the message of "hey, son - don't fucking mess about with the gun" and socialise your kids better? Forgive me if I'm being ignorant, not being a gun-owner or living in a country where mass firearm ownership is not legal, but that's just how it seems to me.
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