Six Year Old Brings Gun To School - Shoots Three Kids By Accident - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Nerts;29300738]Six year olds tend not to be.[/QUOTE] by the time I was six I knew never to touch a firearm, let alone take it to school.

[QUOTE=Magistrate;29300255]we should create a system where only responsible and mentally stable people can get a hold of a fire arm[/QUOTE] Would be a nice system, but mental health facilities in the US aren't allowed to give out any of their records of anyone. So you're filling out your form for your concealed weapon permit, and it asks 'Have you been committed yata yata' and you can just say No. Even if they tried to check, they won't find anything because they aren't allowed That's a law that needs to change

[QUOTE=TheTalon;29309562]Would be a nice system, but mental health facilities in the US aren't allowed to give out any of their records of anyone. So you're filling out your form for your concealed weapon permit, and it asks 'Have you been committed yata yata' and you can just say No. Even if they tried to check, they won't find anything because they aren't allowed That's a law that needs to change[/QUOTE] And then there are people who are mentally ill, but have no history. Like that guy who shot that politician in Arizona.

[QUOTE=SteelReal;29302481]Rather than hide the gun away, you should teach the kid how to use it with proper firearm instruction. And tell him of the consequences of gun use.[/QUOTE] I'm going to do that, THEN hide it.

I find it funny that I feel safer in the Ghetto than I do around white-trash trailer parks [editline]19th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TheTalon;29309562]Would be a nice system, but mental health facilities in the US aren't allowed to give out any of their records of anyone. So you're filling out your form for your concealed weapon permit, and it asks 'Have you been committed yata yata' and you can just say No. Even if they tried to check, they won't find anything because they aren't allowed That's a law that needs to change[/QUOTE] No, because under the law only those involuntarily committed are barred from firearms, and those are typically the result of court orders which do so up on the record

[QUOTE=TheTalon;29309562]Would be a nice system, but mental health facilities in the US aren't allowed to give out any of their records of anyone. So you're filling out your form for your concealed weapon permit, and it asks 'Have you been committed yata yata' and you can just say No. Even if they tried to check, they won't find anything because they aren't allowed That's a law that needs to change[/QUOTE] except that states are required to submit mentally incompetent (declared by a judge) people into the ncis database when the background check is called in, it would come up, and the person wouldn't be allowed to purchase the gun

Was it a type 94 or something that it discharged that easily?

The other kids should have had guns so they could have shot him to prevent this from happening.

How would it discharge if it fell to the ground? Hammer hit the floor or what? Also, grip safety master race :smug:

[QUOTE=The Spie;29311054]How would it discharge if it fell to the ground? Hammer hit the floor or what? Also, grip safety master race :smug:[/QUOTE] because it was cocked, not necessarily having a hammer but having the firing pin engaged, a sharp strike such as it hitting the floor could very easily make it go off. Also just because the safety is on doesn't mean you run around pointing it at people :v:

[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;29306422]you can't properly have an opinion without at least putting yourself into a hypothetical situation involving your opinion.[/QUOTE] If someone held a gun against your head and asked if you believe in god, what would you answer? See, the problem with your scenario is that you can alter it slightly to fit your arguments whenever an opponent responds. It's also extreme and very unlikely, and nothing you would ever actually witness.

[QUOTE=JDK721;29308390]it's not that simple though. many people interested in firearms will never commit a violent act. there has to be more going on than just an interest in guns.[/QUOTE] Hence what I already said, bad homelife as a kid, mental issues, etc. I love guns, and I wouldn't hurt another person with them unless mine, or another's life was at risk.

America at its finest! :patriot: And still.. people cling onto their guns like little children.

[QUOTE=CommanderPT;29315652]America at its finest! :patriot: And still.. people cling onto their guns like little children.[/QUOTE] It's not just America, stop being so damn closed minded. Shit like this happens in Europe too all the damn time.

What kind of lousy owner would let their guns become so easily accessible to their children! I hope their get their license to keep firearm revoked for this (if there is a license requirement)

[QUOTE=Magistrate;29300255]we should create a system where only responsible and mentally stable people can get a hold of a fire arm[/QUOTE] That would go against the US constitution

[QUOTE=BCell;29316168]What kind of lousy owner would let their guns become so easily accessible to their children! I hope their get their license to keep firearm revoked for this (if there is a license requirement)[/QUOTE] You don't need a license to own a firearm, just to carry...in most states... and again, education and responsibility go a long way, teach it and shit like this doesn't happen.

[QUOTE=that1dude24;29303273]Racism is fallacious and based off of irrational fear or hatred based on a single distinctive trait of a human; sounds close enough to a mental disorder to me.[/QUOTE] Irrational fear isn't a mental disorder, everybody has an irrational fear of something

They could of course teach gun safety in schools to prevent this.

Oh texas...

[QUOTE=faze;29300227]Source: [url]http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8081909[/url] I am 100% for EVERYONE owning at least one firearm for home defense, but keep it secured for fuck's sake. I keep mine next to me, but I don't have a round chambered, and the safety's always on, but I don't have kids. If I did, I'd keep it in a locked box, hidden.[/QUOTE] I wonder why the rate of Gun Crime is so low in the UK as compared to the US... oh I know... BECAUSE GUNS ARE BANNED. :smug:

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29316509]That would go against the US constitution[/QUOTE] No it wouldn't. There already is a non-working system to do that in place. Maybe we should replace it with one that isn't shitty. In fact, why don't we make it like CCW permits in some areas, and make it so you have to have a good reason to want to buy a gun in the first place, filled out in writing, and approved by a local judge. That seems reasonable to me.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29316556]They could of course teach gun safety in schools to prevent this.[/QUOTE] :frog: [b]NO.[/b]

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;29316802]No it wouldn't. There already is a non-working system to do that in place. Maybe we should replace it with one that isn't shitty. In fact, why don't we make it like CCW permits in some areas, and make it so you have to have a good reason to want to buy a gun in the first place, filled out in writing, and approved by a local judge. That seems reasonable to me.[/QUOTE] I'm not necessarily against your idea, but what does licensing have to do with what happened in this case though whoever owns the gun has broken the law by leaving a loaded firearm accessible to a minor. even a licensed gun holder could've done the same thing.

[QUOTE=AK'z;29316733]I wonder why the rate of Gun Crime is so low in the UK as compared to the US... oh I know... BECAUSE GUNS ARE BANNED. :smug:[/QUOTE] People still own guns illegally. I want to defend myself against those with weapons illegally. Also, you can still get shotguns and .22's in the UK legally. So, you're wrong.

[QUOTE=faze;29317529]People still own guns illegally. I want to defend myself against those with weapons illegally. Also, you can still get shotguns and .22's in the UK legally. So, you're wrong.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. Thanks.

[QUOTE=faze;29317529]People still own guns illegally. I want to defend myself against those with weapons illegally. Also, you can still get shotguns and .22's in the UK legally. So, you're wrong.[/QUOTE] But gun crime is nearly none existent. I used to live next to one of the most gun prolific estates in the UK. I mean, even the police used to be armed who patrolled. Never heard or saw one gun or gunshot. But yes, you're right. It's not that difficult to get a gun of some kind in the UK legally. We just don't have the gun culture, people would think it's pretty weird to want to own guns. Not to mention a massive cock block :v:

[QUOTE=NoDachi;29317791]But gun crime is nearly none existent. I used to live next to one of the most gun prolific estates in the UK. I mean, even the police used to be armed who patrolled. Never heard or saw one gun or gunshot. But yes, you're right. It's not that difficult to get a gun of some kind in the UK legally. We just don't have the gun culture, people would think it's pretty weird to want to own guns. Not to mention a massive cock block :v:[/QUOTE] Different culture, violent crime in the UK is almost always isolated domestic violence and similar things. Crime in the US is very often at random (i.e. driveby's, robberies, home invasions, etc). So, therefore I am armed to the fucking teeth to defend myself in the event of shit hitting the proverbial fan. I won't hesitate to take out a threat if it presents itself.

The guns, they are learning...

[QUOTE=faze;29318052]Different culture, violent crime in the UK is almost always isolated domestic violence and similar things. Crime in the US is very often at random (i.e. driveby's, robberies, home invasions, etc). So, therefore I am armed to the fucking teeth to defend myself in the event of shit hitting the proverbial fan. I won't hesitate to take out a threat if it presents itself.[/QUOTE] Wrong, there is 6 times more violent assaults per capita in the UK than in the USA. Remember that Britain is a far more urbanised, and slightly poorer country where a lot of arguments are solved with fists. Yet 3 times as many murders per capita in the USA. Mostly attributing to the availability of deadly weapons.