[QUOTE=Ezhik;43074509]they were an ancient human society that got wiped out after an all-out war, obviously[/QUOTE]
Atlantis. That is all. :v:
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;43074553]probably some were smarter and learned to farm and make better equipment and when they needed resources perhaps the not-so-intelligent ones who had said resources got wiped out by tactics and better equipment and fuller bellies[/QUOTE]
support your claim
[QUOTE=ReFreshe;43074684]support your claim[/QUOTE]
Them' be fightin' words!
[QUOTE=NuclearJesus;43074820]Hershel.[/QUOTE]
[sp]wrong, he still has his head on in that picture[/sp]
*chucks the book out the window*
seems like every couple months we find yet another much older relative that causes us to rewrite our understanding of human evolution (if you even believe it of course) it really shows just how far we have come and shows that our world of science, and lights is just but a blink of time's eye
one has to wonder what the world looked like through his(?) eyes
Um no this isn't real the bible says do
[QUOTE=ridinmybike;43074459]so, how did all these hominids disappear, and why are we the only one's around?[/QUOTE]
What if we're not and the other hominids became part of our society because we can't tell the difference between them.
[QUOTE=Derposaurus;43075019]What if we're not and the other hominids became part of our society because we can't tell the difference between them.[/QUOTE]
Well, that's sorta what we think now, we know now that we share a pretty significant amount of DNA with branches of the hominids later stages; which indicates that we interbred for a large amount if time; it's more likely that the Homo Sapiens simply became a hybrid, and then out bred / out competed the remaining smaller branches of the Hominid; we then continued to evolve into the Homo Sapiens Sapiens we are today.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43071209]It's weird knowing that humans have been around to close to half a million years yet all we have of recorded history has been in the past few thousand.[/QUOTE]
I always get a chuckle out of the people who out rightly deny the possibility of past civilizations whose records were utterly destroyed. What could we make that will last 400,000 years?
What if it's a time traveler? :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;43075101]I always get a chuckle out of the people who out rightly deny the possibility of past civilizations whose records were utterly destroyed. What could we make that will last 400,000 years?[/QUOTE]
Twinkies.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;43075101]I always get a chuckle out of the people who out rightly deny the possibility of past civilizations whose records were utterly destroyed. What could we make that will last 400,000 years?[/QUOTE]
There are even relatively recent civilizations we know little to nothing about, like the one that covered a lot of the Amazon rainforest in Terra Preta...
[quote]Amazonian soil was once thought too poor to support agriculture, but it’s now known that at least 10% of it is miraculous stuff called Terra Preta (‘black earth’ in Portuguese) that contains charcoal, bone, manure and fragments of pottery. Up to 2 metres deep in places, and accepted as human in origin, it was created deliberately over a period of 1,500 years between 450 bc and 950 ad. Rich in nutrients that last thousands of years, it has remarkable regenerative properties - so much so that it’s been suggested as a solution to the infertile land of Africa. Brazilian farmers search it out and sell it as valuable compost - but always leave some in the ground, where it retains its power. There is enough of it to cover the whole of France, or twice the area of Great Britain...
Most Amazonian land can’t be seen under the jungle. When cleared, precise geometric figures called geoglyphs emerge, 2,000 - 750 years old and the size of football fields. Google Earth was used to look for more: in two weeks they found 100. To build these would have taken vast numbers of people. BBC Four’s documentary series Unnatural Histories (2011) argued that an advanced civilisation of five to six million people flourished along the Amazon in the 1540s.
Diseases brought by the Spanish, such as smallpox and flu, wiped out 90-95% of the population – by the 18th century the rainforest was empty. They left no buildings – but the soil and the geoglyphs are still there.
[[url=http://qi.com/infocloud/jungles]source[/url][/quote]
Makes you wonder how many great civilizations have vanished completely and lost forever.
[QUOTE=153x;43071230][img]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/12/05/science/05dna-1/05dna-1-articleLarge.jpg[/img]
Also in the article, "An artist's interpretation of his starting party in Dwarf Fortress."[/QUOTE]
ftfy
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;43075101]I always get a chuckle out of the people who out rightly deny the possibility of past civilizations whose records were utterly destroyed. What could we make that will last 400,000 years?[/QUOTE]
Eh it depends how advanced you mean. If we're talking modern day human levels of advancement, then I'm sure we would have found something somewhere by now, even if it's just the collapsed rough remains of a 400,000 year old bunker in a mountain.
Since when did people start calling hominids hominins?
our jeans are the best bro
[QUOTE=bIgFaTwOrM12;43075417]Since when did people start calling hominids hominins?[/QUOTE]
hominid is now defined as a group containing all modern and extinct great apes.
hominin is now defined as hominid's old definition, a group containing modern and extinct human species.
now that we know there are two splits, one for monkeys/apes and humans and another for human subspecies like homo and australopithicus etc, gotta make new classificiations!
[editline]5th December 2013[/editline]
anthropology is a fun topic.
[QUOTE=ridinmybike;43074459]so, how did all these hominids disappear, and why are we the only one's around?[/QUOTE]
competition from homo sapiens is one of the leading theories.
[editline]4th December 2013[/editline]
or any other competing species of human actually.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;43073882]Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible for shifting ground to fuck up the test they use for age? I mean, suppose an earthquake happens, and sends it 20 or 30 feet lower than where it was originally preserved, wouldn't that make it seem older than it is?[/QUOTE]
Steno's Law only applies to rocks not fossils (Law of superposition)
I wonder what's under the ice in Antarctic. There's bound to be undiscovered stuff under there.
Edit: also.. I've been thinking... They find fossils here and there, millions of years old... But "here" and "there" where in different geographical locations several million years ago. So how can they know where they lived, originated etc... Just cause you find a dinosaur bone in one location doesn't mean that's where he died at all. Maybe it died on the other side of the earth and then the earth shifted (as we know its done/doing)
What if there was an ancient civilization living on earth, millions of millions of years ago, but they died out... Then the earths been shifting and shifting. What if their location now is under the ice of antarctic! :O
...To much sci-fi/fantasy man...
Yeah man i'm dumb for having an imagination. Ty.
[QUOTE=Nick Lomax;43076445]I wonder what's under the ice in Antarctic. There's bound to be undiscovered stuff under there.
Edit: also.. I've been thinking... They find fossils here and there, millions of years old... But "here" and "there" where in different geographical locations several million years ago. So how can they know where they lived, originated etc... Just cause you find a dinosaur bone in one location doesn't mean that's where he died at all. Maybe it died on the other side of the earth and then the earth shifted (as we know its done/doing)
What if there was an ancient civilization living on earth, millions of millions of years ago, but they died out... Then the earths been shifting and shifting. What if their location now is under the ice of antarctic! :O
...To much sci-fi/fantasy man...
Yeah man i'm dumb for having an imagination. Ty.[/QUOTE]
You're [I]really[/I] overestimating the speed at which the continents move.
Besides, we know how they move, and we can extrapolate both backwards and forwards. If we know how old a fossil is, and where it comes from, we know where that creature died.
[QUOTE=nick_9_8;43074979]Um no this isn't real the bible says do[/QUOTE]
B-but, Genesis!
It's so cool to think that humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years doin' shit all over the planet.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;43075101]I always get a chuckle out of the people who out rightly deny the possibility of past civilizations whose records were utterly destroyed. What could we make that will last 400,000 years?[/QUOTE]
Whenever something is carved in stone, it lasts. Look at the Ancient Egyptian's. Stonehenge. Hell, Mount Rushmore is going to last thousands of years before erosion makes it completely gone. And that's only if it's not taken care of.
What's that smell
Oh it's the smell of thousands of Facebook shitstorms all over the world
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;43076611]You're [I]really[/I] overestimating the speed at which the continents move.
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Earliest found dinosaur fossil is around 240 mln yrs old. 200 mln yrs ago, the earth look like this:
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Pangaea_continents.svg/220px-Pangaea_continents.svg.png[/IMG]
Im not overestimating the earths movement am I now...
I think you are underestimating it... No one can predict with certain accuracy how the ground will move. You can make an assumption based on previous and current information... But that's what the weather people do as well. I'm not very good at putting my thoughts into words... So most likely this will look stupid. What I'm kinda trying to say is that people shouldn't believe that what scientists/archaeologists say is 100% accurate. The only thing you can be sure about when you find a 200 mln yr old dinosaur is the fact that it was a dinosaur and it was alive at one point and then died. The rest is just very well based speculation which in many cases most likely is true. Great scientists are wrong all the time.
That is a really smug skeleton
Just look at how it's just [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kAEthfslsE"]laughing[/URL] at us
[QUOTE=Nick Lomax;43076796]Earliest found dinosaur fossil is around 240 mln yrs old. 200 mln yrs ago, the earth look like this:
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Pangaea_continents.svg/220px-Pangaea_continents.svg.png[/IMG]
Im not overestimating the earths movement am I now...
I think you are underestimating it... No one can predict with certain accuracy how the ground will move. You can make an assumption based on previous and current information... But that's what the weather people do as well. I'm not very good at putting my thoughts into words... So most likely this will look stupid. What I'm kinda trying to say is that people shouldn't believe that what scientists/archaeologists say is 100% accurate. The only thing you can be sure about when you find a 200 mln yr old dinosaur is the fact that it was a dinosaur and it was alive at one point and then died. The rest is just very well based speculation which in many cases most likely is true. Great scientists are wrong all the time.[/QUOTE]
There's a pretty big difference between charting the path of continents backwards and predicting the weather. Namely in that you can be 100% right about the weather a week from now one moment, and then some bastard sneezes and makes it rain in Grimsby.
By your logic, you can't even trust that you've found a dinosaur. There's a point at which you have to cave and say "let's just [I]assume [/I]that we're right."
Plus, that's 200 million years worth of movement. Two hundred million years. Get your head around the sheer immensity of that number and you'll see what I'm getting at. For as long as humans have existed, the world has looked pretty much as it does now. There's landbridges and places like Doggerland that disappeared followed the Ice Age, but the position of the continents hasn't changed worth a damn. My dick's probably larger that the total amount of distance moved in the last ten thousand years.
I know, there's the possibility of a non-human civilization that lived on the landmass which is now Antartica and therefore under fourty some miles of ice (stargate played with this a little); but if they were anywhere near as advanced as we are, they'd have left stuff that we could see. The obvious one being stuff in orbit.
But, let's assume that this society of miscellaneous beings didn't make it much beyond Ancient Rome in terms of technology. We probably would have found some of their fossils by now; there would have been a lot of them, they would have been spread out (looking at your map, you could walk from Antartica to Iceland), they would had biology that lent itself to developed brains. The list goes on, and if we'd found big groups of similar skeletons, belonging to a species which could have been intelligent, on several different continents, we'd probably have drawn the conclusion that they were intelligent.
The fact is, that you work on the assumption that you're never going to find anything, and look anyway. If you go into an archeological/paleological dig wanting to find evidence that there was once an intelligent species on Earth that wasn't human, you will find it.
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