[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;24613424]She doesn't need 3 months in jail. She just needs psychiatric help.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe just a friend, people have been known to do harmless, yet drastic things when they are craving attention. She did publish it, so it's obvious she sought human contact.
Sadly, a lot of the population here at facepunch can only read the words "puppies" and "thrown", and after that, disreguards any type of intellectual reasoning what so ever.
:sigh:
[QUOTE=Vinze;24609819]
You know what? That's insane, a puppy lacks the memory to suffer, it can feel fear, but one hour after the occurance, their minds goes completley blank after what happens.
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I don't like it when people value animal life over human life.
But I hate it even more when people like you pull shit like this out of your ass.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;24614005]I don't like it when people value animal life over human life.
But I hate it even more when people like you pull shit like this out of your ass.[/QUOTE]
That's how dogs works, I've had several myself. Clearly, I've never harmed them, but they lack persistant emotions, unlike human beings. Clearly their living conditions can affect their instincts and general behaviour, but a single traumatic experience is very easliy forgotten.
Now, I'm sorry if you seem annoyed, I can assure you, that if I had as much as a fragment of a damn to give, I'd ship it to you right away.
No, really, I mean it...
[editline]12:22AM[/editline]
Sincerley, but, I'm sorry, I'm all out. I gave my last damn to someone who were just begging for it in order to afford a subway ticket.
[QUOTE=Vinze;24614090]That's how dogs works, I've had several myself. Clearly, I've never harmed them, but they lack persistant emotions, unlike human beings. Clearly their living conditions can affect their instincts and general behaviour, but a single traumatic experience is very easliy forgotten.
Now, I'm sorry if you seem annoyed, I can assure you, that if I had as much as a fragment of a damn to give, I'd ship it to you right away.
No, really, I mean it...
[editline]12:22AM[/editline]
Sincerley, but, I'm sorry, I'm all out. I gave my last damn to someone who were just begging for it in order to afford a subway ticket.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.vetinfo.com/dog-ptsd.html[/url]
Hell go ahead and google canine post traumatic stress disorder and you will come up with plenty of examples.
[QUOTE=GodKing;24610031]I haven't lost my mind, I just don't give a shit about the cunt and the only reason I even know about her is because she committed an horrendous act of senseless multiple killings.
And horribly murdered now.[/QUOTE]
Only one died.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;24614209][URL]http://www.vetinfo.com/dog-ptsd.html[/URL]
Hell go ahead and google canine post traumatic stress disorder and you will come up with plenty of examples.[/QUOTE]
Which one do you think is more significant? The human kind, or the dog kind?
The brain of a dog lacks the evolvement to be compared. My dog had this problem, she was a stray, it passed shortly after she got a new home. Both her parents had died and she lost her entire family, she was perfectly fine about sixteen weeks later, meanwhile, she was just ticked off at strangers.
I lost my dad to cancer for about a year ago, I still have massive psychological rammifications since then.
From my own personal experience I can tell you that dogs have no clue what suffering is, and it's just an insult to people with real problems to pretend as if they do.
[QUOTE=Vinze;24614291]
From my own personal experience I can tell you that dogs have no clue what suffering is, and it's just an insult to people with real problems to pretend as if they do.[/QUOTE]
Wait you experienced being a dog?
I also love how in this post you just implied that dogs can never have real problems.
I guess those puppies being thrown in a fast moving river wasn't a real problem either.
[QUOTE=NotSo1337;24612929]I could care less about animals but this guy shouldn't be banned for his opinion. The Mods are stupid but they aren't fascist.[/QUOTE]
Animal abuse is a crime. and he was supporting crime. Remember Chris.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;24614358]Wait you experienced being a dog?
I also love how in this post you just implied that dogs can never have real problems.
I guess those puppies being thrown in a fast moving river wasn't a real problem either.[/QUOTE]
Of course not, they had no idea what was going on. I know that people think that anything that's small and furry is automatically oversensitive and must be defended, since it is required to be just about that weak so that they don't end up defending the designated self-righteous prick in the first place. At that state of evolvement, they have memories incapable of preforming calculus, someone could have killed their mother with a buzz-saw right infront of them and they wouldn't have cared.
And I know, that's pretty harsh and whatnot, and it ruins the innocence of puppies, but yeah, shit happens, and causing more shit won't fix it. If someone threw a fully aware human being off of a bridge, or a fully aware dog for that matter, I'd care, but puppies can't feel this kind of thing, all they felt was a gentle breeze before everything whent black.
There.
The end.
Grow the hell up and stop harrassing me for not overthinking shit.
[QUOTE=Vinze;24614090]That's how dogs works, I've had several myself. Clearly, I've never harmed them, but they lack persistant emotions, unlike human beings. Clearly their living conditions can affect their instincts and general behaviour, but a single traumatic experience is very easliy forgotten.
Now, I'm sorry if you seem annoyed, I can assure you, that if I had as much as a fragment of a damn to give, I'd ship it to you right away.
No, really, I mean it...
[editline]12:22AM[/editline]
Sincerley, but, I'm sorry, I'm all out. I gave my last damn to someone who were just begging for it in order to afford a subway ticket.[/QUOTE]
Not true, my dog was attacked by a Stafford and now whenever he sees one, he goes ape and starts barking, same goes for boxers and cats since we was attacked by one of those as well. So dogs do remember traumatic events.
And dog's do have emotions, in fact they can even read human emotions: [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3354028/Dogs-can-read-emotion-in-human-faces.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Vinze;24614464]Of course not, they had no idea what was going on. I know that people think that anything that's small and furry is automatically oversensitive and must be defended, since it is required to be just about that weak so that they don't end up defending the designated self-righteous prick in the first place. At that state of evolvement, they have memories incapable of preforming calculus, someone could have killed their mother with a buzz-saw right infront of them and they wouldn't have cared.
And I know, that's pretty harsh and whatnot, and it ruins the innocence of puppies, but yeah, shit happens, and causing more shit won't fix it. If someone threw a fully aware human being off of a bridge, or a fully aware dog for that matter, I'd care, but puppies can't feel this kind of thing, all they felt was a gentle breeze before everything whent black.
There.
The end.
Grow the hell up and stop harrassing me for not overthinking shit.[/QUOTE]
I thought you were implying that dogs in general can't remember traumatic events, which a lot of people on FP do in threads like this.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24614488]Not true, my dog was attacked by a Stafford and now whenever he sees one, he goes ape and starts barking, same goes for boxers and cats since we was attacked by one of those as well. So dogs do remember traumatic events.[/QUOTE]
No, that's instincts, they get defensive by reflex. They aren't afraid, just aware since they've learned something is bad. It's like those experiments with the rats and the cheese the electric shocks. They aren't "traumatized", they just know "Alright, electricity is bad, so I'll do my best not to go near it."
Ugh, I'm too tired to explain, you kids will have to work it out on your own.
But
Animal emotions=/=Human emotions.
Also, was your dog a puppy at the time of the attack? No? Didn't think so, otherwise he'd/she would have forgotten.
-snip-
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;24614525]I thought you were implying that dogs in general can't remember traumatic events, which a lot of people on FP do in threads like this.[/QUOTE]
Nope, I just meant the small ones, which this thread involved, read the OP, will you?
[QUOTE=Vinze;24614537]No, that's instincts, they get defensive by reflex. They aren't afraid, just aware since they've learned something is bad. It's like those experiments with the rats and the cheese the electric shocks. They aren't "traumatized", they just know "Alright, electricity is bad, so I'll do my best not to go near it."
Ugh, I'm too tired to explain, you kids will have to work it out on your own.
But
Animal emotions=/=Human emotions.
Also, was your dog a puppy at the time of the attack? No? Didn't think so, otherwise he'd/she would have forgotten.[/QUOTE]
He was a puppy at the time of the attack. About six months old but a puppy none the less.
As for emotions, they do have emotions, it was on the news a while ago, they found they where able to show such emotions as jealousy and a few others.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24614547]I'm sorry but that sentence was incomprehensible[/QUOTE]
I understood just fine.
[editline]12:50AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24614563]He was a puppy at the time of the attack.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah? How old? Dogowners normally see their dogs as puppies for an extensive amount of time, could it walk and see? If you answer yes to those, then no, you're taking what I said out of proportions.
[QUOTE=Vinze;24614573]I understood just fine.
[editline]12:50AM[/editline]
Oh yeah? How old? Dogowners normally see their dogs as puppies for an extensive amount of time, could it walk and see? If you answer yes to those, then no, you're taking what I said out of proportions.[/QUOTE]
Well when he was attacked by the stafford he was about 4 to 6 months old. As for when he was attacked by a cat he must have only been about 2 to 3 months.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24614642]Well when he was attacked by the stafford he was about 4 to 6 months old. As for when he was attacked by a cat he must have only been about 2 to 3 months.[/QUOTE]
Yes, well, I'll send him a card with a picture of a starving african boy on it.
But my point stands then, since at that time they've developed their senses enough to comprehend things, these puppies had not.
they should give her a life sentence or something
just because we're the dominant race doesn't mean puppies don't have lives
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;24614695]I don't think she should be killed.
Just beaten. Very badly.
[editline]02:32PM[/editline]
Right, right. Because we don't enjoy her throwing baby animals into a fucking river, we don't value human life more. Get a fucking clue.
Regardless, value of life is relative. Humans have been killing fucktons of other humans over ridiculously stupid shit since as far as we care to remember. So at the end of the day, if I catch you torturing a puppy, I'm not going to kill you, but I am going to beat the shit out of you.[/QUOTE]
A few things:
A) None of the puppies were tortured.
B) Life if valueable, but not as valueable so as it calls for violence.
C) If you can't let go of things, you're worse than she is.
D) I'd never torture anything, but I'd still like to see you try beating me, us more traditional nords finds loudmouths such as yourself entertaining game.
E) "We" suggests you're in PETA, and which case you're a terrorist, which renders none of your opinions on human life, valid.
By the way guys, the puppies the grandmother are holding are not the ones that were seen being thrown into the river. They are black and tan; the ones Ivona or whatever her name was got rid of were all black and white.
[QUOTE=Vinze;24615132]A few things:
A) None of the puppies were tortured.
B) Life if valueable, but not as valueable so as it calls for violence.
C) If you can't let go of things, you're worse than she is.
D) I'd never torture anything, but I'd still like to see you try beating me, us more traditional nords finds loudmouths such as yourself entertaining game.
E) "We" suggests you're in PETA, and which case you're a terrorist, which renders none of your opinions on human life, valid.[/QUOTE]
A) Torture: the deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or mental suffering. I'd say getting thrown into a river when you have no idea how to swim and you'll probably drown is suffering. You're an idiot.
B) Value is subjective. You're an idiot.
C) Yeah let's just forget that she threw animals into a rapid river for no other reason than she was bored. You're an idiot.
D) Wow I never thought I'd have the ITG argument, but whatever. I'm an amateur boxer buddy, make of that what you will. Being a nord means what exactly? That you're from Norway? Oh wow that's amazing.
E) If "we" suggests I'm in the PETA, then you clearly are an idiot.
What would beating her badly achieve then?
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24615689]What would beating her badly achieve then?[/QUOTE]
Ultimately, probably nothing, but it would most likely convince her not to pull shit like that again. If I was the owner of these pups, and she stole them, threw them into the river and they drowned. That for me, would be a suitable punishment for her.
However, under our system of law, that's not a viable option. So that's more a personal reaction from me, based on my moral beliefs. Rather, she should get jail time or a hefty fine, accompanied with some compulsory therapy.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24615689]What would beating her badly achieve then?[/QUOTE]
Get you tried for assault :downs:
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;24614695]Just beaten. Very badly.[/QUOTE]
So you're justifying assault just because she did something you don't like?
"Kill her"?
Seriously guys, get your priorities right.
It sickens me that people wouldn't care if she killed a human being. Or even 6.
This is why organisations like PETA emerge, and why people have a fucked up view on reality.
[QUOTE=JDK721v3;24617037]So you're justifying assault just because she did something you don't like?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;24615819]
However, under our system of law, that's not a viable option. So that's more a personal reaction from me, based on my moral beliefs. Rather, she should get jail time or a hefty fine, accompanied with some compulsory therapy.[/QUOTE]
I.E What I would [B]WANT[/B] to happen to her vs what should and will actually happen to her.
[editline]05:10PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Populus89;24617391]
Seriously guys, get your priorities right.
It sickens me that people wouldn't care if she killed a human being. Or even 6.
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What the fuck. Where did ANYONE say that?
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