Victorian child sex offender spared by an Australian court from going to jail - given a warning inst - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Tinter;40312940]Life sentence is 16 years in Denmark.[/QUOTE] Funny thing is, regicide doesn't give life here :v: Minimum sentence for killing the queen is six years.

[QUOTE=Riller;40313080]Funny thing is, regicide doesn't give life here :v: Minimum sentence for killing the queen is six years.[/QUOTE] Killing the queen isn't the worst thing I could think of, I know a few people who would be happy to not have the Royal Family around. Me not included.

[QUOTE=Riller;40312738]Well, we live in a world where we can't lock up people forever, so that's kind of not an option, right? Now, if we throw him in jail, he'll go out and diddle a third kid. If we throw him in rehab, he [I]might[/I] not go out and diddle another kid. What seems the best option to you?[/QUOTE] Electric chair. No chance of him doing it again.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;40313649]Electric chair. No chance of him doing it again.[/QUOTE] What about his rights as a human being?

[QUOTE=viper shtf;40313649]Electric chair. No chance of him doing it again.[/QUOTE] As much as I loathe pedophiles (who act on their urges and hurt children this way) with every fiber of my body, it is not a death-penalty-crime, even if you are pro-death-penalty (Which I used to be).

[QUOTE=Yahnich;40312073]how is it beneficial to anyone that he gets locked up[/QUOTE] So another child doesn't get molested. [QUOTE]But Judge Gaynor warned the man to avoid children or he would be jailed. "You really need to keep away from children," she said.[/QUOTE] That doesn't sound so assuring. Molesting a single child should make you a danger and a danger should be locked up.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40313760]So another child doesn't get molested. That doesn't sound so assuring. Molesting a single child should make you a danger and a danger should be locked up.[/QUOTE] molesting a child is not a violent crime and is not a huge threat to the general public, unlike kidnapping and raping a child. by the looks of it he was trusted to be alone with a child and his urges took over. if he actively distances himself from children and receives some help for controlling his urges he will be fine.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;40313649]Electric chair. No chance of him doing it again.[/QUOTE]Life must never, under any circumstances be taken. If we can help while preserving life then we should. Nobody should have a say in ending another persons life.

[QUOTE=PopSkimo;40316519]Life must never, under any circumstances be taken. If we can help while preserving life then we should. Nobody should have a say in ending another persons life.[/QUOTE] Except if to save many more than the ones lost.

[QUOTE=Ninja Pirate;40312750]Reread what you typed. We NOW live in a world where people can no longer be locked up for life. I say bring that option back and in extreme crimes execute people. I am done debating this, I am not here to change your mind on the matter. I just hope that you never have to experience anything like this with your family members or anyone else close to you. But if you do, you will only then understand the pain the victims feel.[/QUOTE] All you seem to want is revenge. Revenge solves nothing, and I'm glad people like you aren't in charge of law and order.

[QUOTE=tommyc225;40316675]All you seem to want is revenge. Revenge solves nothing, and I'm glad people like you aren't in charge of law and order.[/QUOTE] I'm not vouching for anything extreme, but what exactly do you think is fair treatment for people who destroy lives? Are you just supposed to walk away and accept whatever outcome the judge thinks is right, after someone you loved either has their psyche rendered FUBAR or their life just strait taken from them?

[QUOTE=Cureless;40316879]I'm not vouching for anything extreme, but what exactly do you think is fair treatment for people who destroy lives? Are you just supposed to walk away and accept whatever outcome the judge thinks is right, after someone you loved either has their psyche rendered FUBAR or their life just strait taken from them?[/QUOTE] nobody expects the victim to be perfectly without hangups to the ruling, but, tragic as their circumstance may be, they're in no position to be taking the law into their own hands. they would likely be far too caught up in their misery and anger to be reasonable and factual, whereas a judge, if he's doing his job right, would be impartial, unbiased, and objective. and even if the judge isn't very good at his job, the victim would be just as bad, if not worse.

[QUOTE=Tinter;40313719]What about his rights as a human being?[/QUOTE] What about the rights of the children he molested? What about the rights of the children he would molest and/or kill in the future?

[QUOTE=viper shtf;40317336]What about the rights of the children he molested? What about the rights of the children he would molest and/or kill in the future?[/QUOTE] So you'd violate his rights because he [I]might[/I] violate someone else's later on? Whether or not you think so, he's still human and has rights, like you or I.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;40317336]What about the rights of the children he molested? What about the rights of the children he would molest and/or kill in the future?[/QUOTE] So you should kill him because he might kill someone, except there are no signs of it? Why not try to keep his rights as a human being intact and try to stop him from doing it?

[QUOTE=DigitalySane;40316621]Except if to save many more than the ones lost.[/QUOTE]If there are more lives at cost sure. If someone has several hostages and is about to execute them, there's not much else to do, try to talk them down until the last possible moment but if that fails, do what is possible to preserve the most human life as possible. But naturally other people like Viper will always have the mentality that killing the person is the go to solution, unfortunately. [QUOTE=viper shtf;40317336]What about the rights of the children he molested? What about the rights of the children he would molest and/or kill in the future?[/QUOTE]What happened to the children is terrible, they were violated, yes but he did not kill them (assuming he hasn't killed any past victims) and even if he did, killing him wont justify it. As for what he might or might not do it doesn't matter. You can't say he might hurt someone so he has to be punished on what you think he [I]might[/I] do.

[QUOTE=Tinter;40312940]Life sentence is 16 years in Denmark.[/QUOTE] I meant max as in Norway and Sweden has a max of 21 years, they're part of Scandinavia, thus max sentence is 21 in Scandinavia because they have the longest sentence.

[QUOTE=andololol;40319584]I meant max as in Norway and Sweden has a max of 21 years, they're part of Scandinavia, thus max sentence is 21 in Scandinavia because they have the longest sentence.[/QUOTE] Yeah I was just pointing out that Denmark is the special little snowflake and please notice us.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40311621]Well yeah, he's messed up and has problems but he's still a danger to the community. I think it might be beneficial to lock him up.[/QUOTE] To who though? Would you rather not see him become a functional member of society rather then become even worse due to conditions in prison? [editline]17th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=viper shtf;40313649]Electric chair. No chance of him doing it again.[/QUOTE] Its when people say things like this that my faith in humanity dies a bit more then just a little.

[QUOTE=Yahnich;40312073]how is it beneficial to anyone that he gets locked up[/QUOTE] off of the top of my head, it's beneficial to children who could potentially be raped by pedophiles who hear about this and get the idea that they can go out and do the same thing and even if they get caught they can get away with it. it is beneficial to the child/children he raped and their parents because in this horrible situation they can at least find comfort in the fact that the person who did it cannot do it again.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40321878]off of the top of my head, it's beneficial to children who could potentially be raped by pedophiles who hear about this and get the idea that they can go out and do the same thing and even if they get caught they can get away with it. it is beneficial to the child/children he raped and their parents because in this horrible situation they can at least find comfort in the fact that the person who did it cannot do it again.[/QUOTE] youre not getting away with it if everyone still knows you committed a horrible crime. it wont put the parents at ease because according to the article she trusted her child with him despite knowing he diddled kids before.

[QUOTE=Ninja Pirate;40312652]The world has become soft. I mean he only sexually assaulted a child. The logical thing is for him to attend nightly classes to learn that he shouldn't do that, because it was so unclear before. Bring back the gallows and hang this man! (is a joke. But people should be accountable for their actions.)[/QUOTE] The judge decided that he can not be effectively rehabilited as a sex offender while he is getting raped in the butt by other convicts, as that's how it typically turns out. [editline]18th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=viper shtf;40313649]Electric chair. No chance of him doing it again.[/QUOTE] What if you were wrongly convicted of child molestation (like that 1 guy we heard about) and executed for it because lets assume CM is a capital crime. Would you still support your life being taken away?

[QUOTE=Milkdairy;40323001]The judge decided that he can not be effectively rehabilited as a sex offender while he is getting raped in the butt by other convicts, as that's how it typically turns out.[/QUOTE] This doesn't really happen in Australian prisons as child sex offenders are generally kept well away from the main prison community. Also yes as Ronald Ryan, Australia's last person to be executed was found innocent of the crime after death I can't see capital punishment [b]ever[/b] being reintroduced in Australia.

[QUOTE=a-k-t-w;40322357]youre not getting away with it if everyone still knows you committed a horrible crime. it wont put the parents at ease because according to the article she trusted her child with him despite knowing he diddled kids before.[/QUOTE] everyone knows you committed a crime and the law still prevents them from doing anything about it, so yes, he is getting away with it. the fact that the mother (allegedly) knew he was a pedophile is a circumstantial detail. it obviously didn't affect the decision to spare the man a prison sentence so in another case where we apply this same situation to less irresponsible parents the outcome remains that the parents still have to worry about the person who did this being free to roam around as he pleases.