Remember that one McDonalds video of the cashier fighting off the two women? Grand jury has declined - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33579860]And it's not fucking reasonable to defend yourself by hitting them 10 times with a metal pipe to the point where you fracture skulls and break limbs.[/QUOTE] reasonable is not a word used when referring to people defending themselves

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;33579859]Your description of the event is so hilariously skewed it's deplorable. "Slowly running" lol....[/QUOTE] They 'ran' from the cashier to the deep fryer. It's not even a distance long enough to build up anything that could constitute a "chase" for fuck's sake.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579864]The woman chased him for what looks like 3 feet, are you seriously suggesting that sent him into an anger fit so severe that he fractured her skull? Here's the end result: He has a red face for 5 minutes, she has a fractured skull.[/QUOTE] Here's the result: she has a fractured skull and he is free, all is right in the world and I want to give him a high five.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579864]The woman chased him for what looks like 3 feet, are you seriously suggesting that sent him into an anger fit so severe that he fractured her skull? Here's the end result: He has a red face for 5 minutes, she has a fractured skull.[/QUOTE] Uh, the distance doesn't matter. It's not like the brain as a minimal rage distance. What the fuck are you even saying? He reacted based on instinct, that's all.

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;33579865]Exactly! They're acting as if because we live in the year 2011 humans have simply adapted to shut off basic instincts.[/QUOTE] once again, I've been in scarier situations than this and I've never resorted to that level of violence. If I, someone who can admit they are inherently violent, am capable of restraining myself from committing a serious amount of damage, I'd like to think others are as well.

[QUOTE=Simski;33579868]It is when you've just been been attacked by them unprovoked and you're in a state of shock and confusion.[/QUOTE] There's something wrong with you when a slap in the face leaves you in a state of shock and confusion.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579875]They 'ran' from the cashier to the deep fryer. It's not even a distance long enough to build up anything that could constitute a "chase" for fuck's sake.[/QUOTE] What the fuck constitutes a "chase" Mr. Legal?

[QUOTE=Simski;33579868]It is when you've just been been attacked by them unprovoked and you're in a state of shock and confusion.[/QUOTE] Again with this state of shock nonsense! How on earth does someone running up to you put you in such a state that you beat them within an inch of their lives?

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;33579869]reasonable is not a word used when referring to people defending themselves[/QUOTE] uhh it very much is a word used, hence 'reasonable force'

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579866]And then after he stopped their attack, he continued to go at them with the rod, fracturing a person's skull.[/QUOTE] Well people said they continued to attempt getting up, which when you've just been attacked and you're shocked and confused, can be perceived as them not giving up which when frightens you.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;33579878]Here's the result: she has a fractured skull and he is free, all is right in the world and I want to give him a high five.[/QUOTE] Applauding excessive force, shine the fuck on FP, shine the fuck on.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;33579884]What the fuck constitutes a "chase" Mr. Legal?[/QUOTE] I don't know, but I would look at this and say "the woman jump over the counter and went after the man", but hardly i n a way that would send him into a fit. Yes, he was slapped, and then she came after him, but tell me, does someone running up to you cause you go into a state of shock?

[QUOTE=Simski;33579892]Well people said they continued to attempt getting up, which when you've just been attacked and you're shocked and confused, can be perceived as them not giving up which when frightens you.[/QUOTE] There's a looney beating you with a metal pipe, of course you're gonna try and get up to get away.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33579894]Applauding excessive force, shine the fuck on FP, shine the fuck on.[/QUOTE] If you are trying to make me feel bad for being correct then you should look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579901]I don't know, but I would look at this and say "the woman jump over the counter and went after the man", but hardly i n a way that would send him into a fit. Yes, he was slapped, and then she came after him, but tell me, does someone running up to you cause you go into a state of shock?[/QUOTE] It does that to me! Don't you know that they might have guns or knives on them?

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;33579882]once again, I've been in scarier situations than this and I've never resorted to that level of violence. If I, someone who can admit they are inherently violent, am capable of restraining myself from committing a serious amount of damage, I'd like to think others are as well.[/QUOTE] So we base the severity of this guys reaction on the assumption of you being a very big tough guy who has experienced a scary situation before?

[QUOTE=Simski;33579892]Well people said they continued to attempt getting up, which when you've just been attacked and you're shocked and confused, can be perceived as them not giving up which when frightens you.[/QUOTE] Why is it reasonable to assume that he is "shocked and confused"? If you're put in a state of shock by a slap to the face and someone running at you, when you have a weapon, there's a problem.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33579883]There's something wrong with you when a slap in the face leaves you in a state of shock and confusion.[/QUOTE] Are you seriously that dumb that you can't understand that this whole thing isn't just about a single fucking slap in the goddamn face? Are you purposely ignoring everything you don't have an argument against or something?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579901] but tell me, does someone running up to you cause you go into a state of shock?[/QUOTE] That is like a text book definition of something that would send someone into a state of,( and curse me for using this word I am sorry for all you nonbelievers out there!) fight or flight.

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;33579921]So we base the severity of this guys reaction on the assumption of you being a very big tough guy who has experienced a scary situation before?[/QUOTE] The way you've presented it seems to suggest that humans cannot be blamed for their actions once they are provoked into a state of intense fury.

I think if anything this guy probably has 'the warrior gene' present in him, it would fit quite well.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579923]Why is it reasonable to assume that he is "shocked and confused"? If you're put in a state of shock by a slap to the face and someone running at you, when you have a weapon, there's a problem.[/QUOTE] No, because he has just been threatened, attacked, and pursued. I would like to see you get threatened, attacked, and pursued while still remaining completely calm and reasonable.

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;33579921]So we base the severity of this guys reaction on the assumption of you being a very big tough guy who has experienced a scary situation before?[/QUOTE] Seeing as you're basing his reaction on the possibility of them carrying knives or guns... [QUOTE=Simski;33579924]Are you seriously that dumb that you can't understand that this whole thing isn't just about a single fucking slap in the goddamn face? Are you purposely ignoring everything you don't have an argument against or something?[/QUOTE] Oh right, it's also them walking towards him bare-handed. Oh my god, I'm so traumatized. Excessive force, period.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579931]The way you've presented it seems to suggest that humans cannot be blamed for their actions once they are provoked into a state of intense fury.[/QUOTE] A human with no intent to fight shouldn't be punished along with humans that had total intent to fight.

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;33579921]So we base the severity of this guys reaction on the assumption of you being a very big tough guy who has experienced a scary situation before?[/QUOTE] I'm not a big tough guy, that's my point. If I can conduct myself with a level of reason and safety, I'd expect a former criminal to have a slightly better handle on this sort of situation.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33579943]Seeing as you're basing his reaction on the possibility of them carrying knives or guns... Oh right, it's also them walking towards him bare-handed. Oh my god, I'm so traumatized. Excessive force, period.[/QUOTE] "walking towards him bare-handed" "slowly running" are you guys by any chance writers for fox news?

[QUOTE=Simski;33579924]Are you seriously that dumb that you can't understand that this whole thing isn't just about a single fucking slap in the goddamn face? Are you purposely ignoring everything you don't have an argument against or something?[/QUOTE] Okay smart guy, let's run through it by the course of events then: 1. Cashier is yelled at? In a state of shock yet? 2. Cashier is slapped? In a state of shock yet? 3. Woman jumps over counter and chases him to the deep fryer, at which point the cashier has grabbed a metal rod. He's in a state of shock now, you say?

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33579943]Oh right, it's also them walking towards him bare-handed. Oh my god, I'm so traumatized. Excessive force, period.[/QUOTE] He was threatened, physically abused, and pursued. Self defense, period.

[QUOTE=Simski;33579955]He was threatened, physically abused, and pursued. Self defense, period.[/QUOTE] If you honestly consider almost beating someone to death with a metal pipe a reasonable response to this, you're fucked in the head.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33579954]Okay smart guy, let's run through it by the course of events then: 1. Cashier is yelled at? In a state of shock yet? 2. Cashier is slapped? In a state of shock yet? 3. Woman jumps over counter and chases him to the deep fryer, at which point the cashier has grabbed a metal rod. He's in a state of shock now, you say?[/QUOTE] Yes. Do you honestly not understand why?