23-year-old Cancer Patient Cryopreserved after a Successful Fundraising Campaign
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Are there full-body scans for cancer? If so, in order to curb cancer as a gigantic problem, we should stress full-body scans for cancer, that way people who do get cancer will get find out early, and it'll be easier to get rid of.
[QUOTE=Omali;39306878]Or she'll wake up in the great garbage avalanche of 2505 and destroy someone's house while he's trying to watch Ow My Balls![/QUOTE]
I loved that movie
Imagine if she's woken up 60 years later, and greeted by the 80-90 years old Redditor that made the suggestion.
[QUOTE=GustavTrapp;39306868]Of course, it wont be an extension of her conscious life.[/QUOTE]
not really
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there'll be as much discontinuity as there is when a coma patient wakes up
She's adorable :3
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39306931]Are there full-body scans for cancer? If so, in order to curb cancer as a gigantic problem, we should stress full-body scans for cancer, that way people who do get cancer will get find out early, and it'll be easier to get rid of.[/QUOTE]
I think that most medical scans of that magnitude are so expensive it would not be feasible to have the majority of people get them, I dont think insurance companies would pay for it as preventive care.
[QUOTE=rrunyan;39307047]She's adorable :3[/QUOTE]
You realize she's dead, right?
[QUOTE=doommarine23;39307097]You realize she's dead, right?[/QUOTE]
Perpetually arresting for the foreseeable future.
On the wiki page it says she is stored in a Neuro state, which is described as this in the glossary
[QUOTE]Neuro: A type of patient for which [B]only the head is stored[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swebonny;39306979]Imagine if she's woken up 60 years later, and greeted by the 80-90 years old Redditor that made the suggestion.[/QUOTE]
The reddittor would be a hippie politician with the beliefs of Vermin Supreme i think.
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39306931]Are there full-body scans for cancer? If so, in order to curb cancer as a gigantic problem, we should stress full-body scans for cancer, that way people who do get cancer will get find out early, and it'll be easier to get rid of.[/QUOTE]
Oh lord that's a fucking horrible idea, a full body scan will show you a ton of "problems," they'll show you a ton of shit that doesn't actually matter and won't hurt you but would still be considered abnormal.
[QUOTE=scratch (nl);39307150]On the wiki page it says she is stored in a Neuro state, which is described as this in the glossary[/QUOTE]
Yes, the head is severed with a scalpels and a drill or an osteotome, bagged in decran wool and cooled, because the brain is the most important thing. By the time we have the technology to repair the damaged caused by cryoprotection (Thermal stress cracks, cryoprotectant/antifreeze toxicity) we will [I]most certainly[/I] have the technology to grow a body.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39307179]Yes, the head is severed with a scalpels and a drill or an osteotome, bagged in decran wool and cooled, because the brain is the most important thing. By the time we have the technology to repair the damaged caused by cryoprotection (Thermal stress cracks, cryoprotectant/antifreeze toxicity) we will [I]most certainly[/I] have the technology to grow a body.[/QUOTE]
Well to be honest we're actually not too far from being able to grow a body just now, the big issue really is putting it together.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39307179]Yes, the head is severed with a scalpels and a drill or an osteotome, bagged in decran wool and cooled, because the brain is the most important thing. By the time we have the technology to repair the damaged caused by cryoprotection (Thermal stress cracks, cryoprotectant/antifreeze toxicity) we will [I]most certainly[/I] have the technology to grow a body.[/QUOTE]
Or at least a slick robot body.
God, this entire thread is filled with eerily futuristic suggestions.
[QUOTE=OvB;39307204]Or at least a slick robot body.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gXH3C.png[/img]
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[QUOTE=ewitwins;39307226]God, this entire thread is filled with eerily futuristic suggestions.[/QUOTE]
The future is a lot closer than we think.
I wonder if such a thing is similar to being put to sleep for a surgery. Waking up almost instantaneously after being put to sleep. If we ever get the technology to revive these people, she has already woken up far into the future, or will never wake up at all.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39307167]Oh lord that's a fucking horrible idea, a full body scan will show you a ton of "problems," they'll show you a ton of shit that doesn't actually matter and won't hurt you but would still be considered abnormal.[/QUOTE]
Uh what?
[QUOTE=OvB;39307204]Or at least a slick robot body.[/QUOTE]
Better yet, a [URL="http://www.seabreacher.com/"]Seabreacher[/URL]:
[IMG]http://www.seabreacher.com/sites/default/files/title%20page%201.jpg[/IMG]
Even if they found pointless stuff that doesn't really matter, then you can just say "no i don't want treatment for that", and...not get treatment for that.
What the fuck are you even talking about? What "problems" would they find that aren't really problems? Do you think doctors are just going to lie to you or something?
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39307264]Even if they found pointless stuff that doesn't really matter, then you can just say "no i don't want treatment for that", and...not get treatment for that.
What the fuck are you even talking about? What "problems" would they find that aren't really problems? Do you think doctors are just going to lie to you or something?[/QUOTE]
It would lead doctors in a million different dead ends.
[QUOTE=imptastick;39307087]I think that most medical scans of that magnitude are so expensive it would not be feasible to have the majority of people get them, I dont think insurance companies would pay for it as preventive care.[/QUOTE]
Well then someone (government) should attempt to make it cheaper for people who can't afford them, and force insurance companies to cover preventive care measures, which is something they should be doing anyway.
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[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39307274]It would lead doctors in a million different dead ends.[/QUOTE]
Like? Can you give me any examples?
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[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39307253]Better yet, a [URL="http://www.seabreacher.com/"]Seabreacher[/URL]:
[IMG]http://www.seabreacher.com/sites/default/files/title%20page%201.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Or, in some kind of Total Annihilation-esque twist, she wakes up as a Fighter Jet about to take off on a suicide mission.
[i]"This is not what I was expecting at all."[/i]
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39307264]Even if they found pointless stuff that doesn't really matter, then you can just say "no i don't want treatment for that", and...not get treatment for that.
What the fuck are you even talking about? What "problems" would they find that aren't really problems? Do you think doctors are just going to lie to you or something?[/QUOTE]
because until recently doctors weren't trained very well in differentiating between true and false positives, leading to a lot of well-intentioned but pointless surgical interventions
I mean really, if the doc shows you a mysterious black splotch on your scan you're gonna be so nervous you'll go along with whatever he or she says
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39307242]Uh what?[/QUOTE]
A full body scan will show you every defect with your body, 99% of them will be harmless and a total waste of time.
Full body scans cost a bomb dude, and you're not really gonna find anything spectacular in them most of the time.
Just fucking test the patients blood for protein markers, it's a lot easier, doesn't scare the shit out of the patient (no suddenly discovering that their intestine doesn't curve properly at particular points or that there is an inert growth in their lung) and costs a shit load less cash.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39307312]because until recently doctors weren't trained very well in differentiating between true and false positives, leading to a lot of well-intentioned but pointless surgical interventions
I mean really, if the doc shows you a mysterious black splotch on your scan you're gonna be so nervous you'll go along with whatever he or she says[/QUOTE]
Then what do you suggest to avoid people dying from cancer? Really the only thing that'll make cancer stop being a problem is either curing it, avoiding sources of cancer (so many sources, it's too difficult for this to be possible), or getting check ups to catch it early...
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[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39307317]A full body scan will show you every defect with your body, 99% of them will be harmless and a total waste of time.
Full body scans cost a bomb dude, and you're not really gonna find anything spectacular in them most of the time.
Just fucking test the patients blood for protein markers, it's a lot easier, doesn't scare the shit out of the patient (no suddenly discovering that their intestine doesn't curve properly at particular points or that there is an inert growth in their lung) and costs a shit load less cash.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know there was another way to check for cancer, if checking blood for protein markers is actually effective at catching cancer, then that's awesome.
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39307328]Then what do you suggest to avoid people dying from cancer? Really the only thing that'll make cancer stop being a problem is either curing it, avoiding sources of cancer (so many sources, it's too difficult for this to be possible), or getting check ups to catch it early...[/QUOTE]
Continue cancer treatment research, we're getting to a point when we can fight most cancers if caught early enough, all it takes is people being vigilant with their own health and going to the docs when they notice something is up.
Depressing thought:
You wake up from cryogenic sleep. Your family, your friends, everyone you knew has died. Even worse, due to clumsy treatment you are rendered sterile.
I keep seeing myself mourning at my parents' graves :(
[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39307286]Like? Can you give me any examples?[/QUOTE]
Like benign tumors that would otherwise go completely undetected. You can't tell the malignancy of a tumor from an MRI.
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