23-year-old Cancer Patient Cryopreserved after a Successful Fundraising Campaign - Polidicks

Wait so if her head was preserved, what happened to the body??? Was it too preserved?

[QUOTE=Limed00d;39307375]Depressing thought: You wake up from cryogenic sleep. Your family, your friends, everyone you knew has died. Even worse, due to clumsy treatment you are rendered sterile. I keep seeing myself mourning at my parents' graves :([/QUOTE] Well chances are good you'll live long enough to see your parents die anyway, and there's a good chance a lot of your friends will die with you alive anyway.

[QUOTE=Limed00d;39307375]Depressing thought: You wake up from cryogenic sleep. Your family, your friends, everyone you knew has died. Even worse, due to clumsy treatment you are rendered sterile. I keep seeing myself mourning at my parents' graves :([/QUOTE] They can sign up too!

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39307378]Like benign tumors that would otherwise go completely undetected. You can't tell the malignancy of a tumor from an MRI.[/QUOTE] So people just wait until they start to notice their organs failing or they are ridiculously sick?

[QUOTE=nomad1;39307389]Wait so if her head was preserved, what happened to the body??? Was it too preserved?[/QUOTE] I think they just cremate the bodies.

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[QUOTE=nomad1;39307389]Wait so if her head was preserved, what happened to the body??? Was it too preserved?[/QUOTE] lol no. it's literally just the head in this instance. full-body preservation has the head attached to the body.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39307179]Yes, the head is severed with a scalpels and a drill or an osteotome, bagged in decran wool and cooled, because the brain is the most important thing. By the time we have the technology to repair the damaged caused by cryoprotection (Thermal stress cracks, cryoprotectant/antifreeze toxicity) we will [I]most certainly[/I] have the technology to grow a body.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ bro that's morbid.

[QUOTE=ducklingqt;39307414]So people just wait until they start to notice their organs failing or they are ridiculously sick?[/QUOTE] Go and get an MRI, you might need to pay out the ass for it. Chances are you'll come across a few things that could be misinterpreted as some sort of life threatening disease, that will actually turn out to be an inert tumour or some shit or something that can be fixed with a bit more exercise/antibiotics etc.

Imagine if you did this to yourself, to try and find a cure for some kind of disease, and they found it like the year later. "My god! It worked!!! W-What year is it?!" "It's 2014. You've been in for about a year."

What I don't understand out of all this isn't she going to die one way or another even with this type of preservation. So she has the option of dying normally from the cancer. Or she can go in cryo and run the risk of dying later due to the procedure or never waking up at all? How long can you can you really stay in some type of preservation like hers? What is the likelihood of waking up properly? (Like not brain damaged, damaged organs) etc. I don't really understand how all this works with our current technology and medical knowledge.

[QUOTE=MR-X;39307673]What I don't understand out of all this isn't she going to die one way or another even with this type of preservation. So she has the option of dying normally from the cancer. Or she can go in cryo and run the risk of dying later due to the procedure or never waking up at all? How long can you can you really stay in some type of preservation like hers? What is the likelihood of waking up properly? (Like not brain damaged, damaged organs) etc. I don't really understand how all this works with our current technology and medical knowledge.[/QUOTE] She's dead already man, she's basically a head in a jar right now.

Why not just become one of the plastinated corpses on display? [img]http://twistedphysics.typepad.com/cocktail_party_physics/images/2008/09/12/g_plastination1.jpg[/img] It's not like you're going to survive cryo-sleep

[QUOTE=MR-X;39307673]What I don't understand out of all this isn't she going to die one way or another even with this type of preservation. So she has the option of dying normally from the cancer. Or she can go in cryo and run the risk of dying later due to the procedure or never waking up at all? How long can you can you really stay in some type of preservation like hers? What is the likelihood of waking up properly? (Like not brain damaged, damaged organs) etc. I don't really understand how all this works with our current technology and medical knowledge.[/QUOTE] If she arrives in a sufficiently advanced future she might end up with an [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_lifespan]indefinite lifespan[/url], or get emulated or something. As for the risks of the procedure itself, yes those are very real, but it's better than the 100% chance of dying you have right now in 2013.

[QUOTE=Eltro102;39307690]Why not just become one of the plastinated corpses on display? [img]http://twistedphysics.typepad.com/cocktail_party_physics/images/2008/09/12/g_plastination1.jpg[/img] It's not like you're going to survive cryo-sleep[/QUOTE] The whole point of cryosleep is to survive long enough until we have the technology to reverse the problems they had and revive them. She'll be able to survive like that for a pretty long time so there's a good chance we can actually solve this shit before she starts to properly decay.

[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39307718]The whole point of cryosleep is to survive long enough until we have the technology to reverse the problems they had and revive them. She'll be able to survive like that for a pretty long time so there's a good chance we can actually solve this shit before she starts to properly decay.[/QUOTE] actually, with current 'cryo-sleep' technology, its more than likely that you'll end up dead anyway as not only is the technology very primitive, but those companies are very likely to go bust in the near future anyway, so you'll end up as a tepid corpse in some warehouse also, the cancerous cells are better designed for cryo-sleep anyway, as they continue replicating effectively forver, so while the normal cells will eventually age and die out, the cancer cells will be there always

[QUOTE=Eltro102;39307747]actually, with current 'cryo-sleep' technology, its more than likely that you'll end up dead anyway as not only is the technology very primitive, but those companies are very likely to go bust in the near future anyway, so you'll end up as a tepid corpse in some warehouse also, [b]the cancerous cells are better designed for cryo-sleep anyway, as they continue replicating effectively forver, so while the normal cells will eventually age and die out, the cancer cells will be there always[/b][/QUOTE] You just went full retard, the lower the temperature the lower the energy available to the cells, they're not doing shit I can guarantee it, let alone replicating.

I guess the cool thing about this is if she's ever revived, it will seem like no time has gone by for her at all.

[QUOTE=Limed00d;39307375]Depressing thought: You wake up from cryogenic sleep. Your family, your friends, everyone you knew has died. Even worse, due to clumsy treatment you are rendered sterile. I keep seeing myself mourning at my parents' graves :([/QUOTE] They're dead, mourn them, mourn your old life, get over it. You were given a chance to live again, don't waste it now on endless self-pity, get to know new people and enjoy your new life. You're sterile so no need to worry about kids either, there's always adoption.

During Cryosleep, are they conscious at all or will the next thing they see be (hopefully) waking up?

[QUOTE=Eltro102;39307690]Why not just become one of the plastinated corpses on display? [img]http://twistedphysics.typepad.com/cocktail_party_physics/images/2008/09/12/g_plastination1.jpg[/img] It's not like you're going to survive cryo-sleep[/QUOTE] It's cryo-preservation, not sleep, read the article first please before making comments.

[QUOTE=ojcoolj;39307934]During Cryosleep, are they conscious at all or will the next thing they see be (hopefully) waking up?[/QUOTE] Naw man, they're dead as fuck, they just aren't decaying.

[QUOTE=ojcoolj;39307934]During Cryosleep, are they conscious at all or will the next thing they see be (hopefully) waking up?[/QUOTE] They severed her head, what do you think?

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39306364]No, you choose which organization [URL="http://wiki.transhumani.com/index.php?title=Cryonics#Alcor_Criticism"]less[/URL] [URL="http://wiki.transhumani.com/index.php?title=Cryonics#CI_Criticism"]shady[/URL] to you and they pump you full of a kind of antifreeze.[/QUOTE] Ok, I don't know if anyone actually read that, but damn. [quote=Alcor]In one case, a patient’s head was removed in the field and, because they had failed to use a rectal plug, the patient had defecated in the PIB. The result was that feces had contaminated the neck wound, and Alcor personnel were seen pouring saline over the stump of the neck whilst holding the patient’s severed head over a bucket trying to wash the fecal matter off the stump.[/quote]

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;39307945]It's cryo-preservation, not sleep, read the article first please before making comments.[/QUOTE] Whats the point of her being cryo-preserved? Are they going to study her cancer cells or something in the future? [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] or is just for Science?

[QUOTE=counterpo0;39308095]Whats the point of her being cryo-preserved? Are they going to study her cancer cells or something in the future? [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] or is just for Science?[/QUOTE] They're going to revive her hopefully.

[QUOTE=counterpo0;39308095]Whats the point of her being cryo-preserved? Are they going to study her cancer cells or something in the future? [/QUOTE] The point is to be revived in the future when there's technology that allows it.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39308116]They're going to revive her hopefully.[/QUOTE] I don't know what's more unlikely, us coming up with a way to successfully revive her or us managing to keep her preserved long enough to do so. It's a disappointing thought but it's likely that anyone preserved today will have their bodies damaged or lost before the technology arrives to revive them.

[QUOTE=Stopper;39308059]Ok, I don't know if anyone actually read that, but damn.[/QUOTE] Man, some of the stuff on that page is really bad. [QUOTE=Alcor] Patients were being stabilized at a nearby hospice, transported to Alcor (~20 min away) and then CPS was discontinued, the patients were placed on the OR table and, without any ice on their heads, they were allowed to sit there at temperatures a little below normal body temperature for 1 to 1.5 hours, while burr holes were drilled, [...] smoke could be seen coming from the burr wound! Since the patient had no circulation to provide blood to carry away the enormous heat generated by the action of the burr on the bone, the temperature of the underlying bone (and brain) must have been high enough to literally cook an egg[/QUOTE] Seems like a legit medical facility. These places sound like major scam factories.

When people talk about dying and what their plans are for their body when they die and such, when they ask me what my plans are, my answer is always "I plan to live forever. Barring that, I'll by preserved until I can be revived and then live forever." They thought I was joking for a while but now they truly believe me. Hell, that is half the reason I'm going in to BME.