6 HIV sufferers die after their pastor told them to stop taking their medication, because god would - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;33432722]Even if you disregard the old testament book of law's punishments, the intended message of Christianity is that you should forgive them of their sins and hope to make them recognise they are sinning. What this means is that regardless of what you do about it, things like Homosexuality and not marrying the man who raped you is still sinning. But whatever, people pick and choose from the new testament. [editline];[/editline] Also, why did you remove[/QUOTE] Oh I was editing it I wanted it to be a separate post for someone That's kind of the issue I at least feel like though, that people pick and choose and take every written word literally. Also not taking into account the fact that some of these things about things like homosexuality were written for the times and that, whether these holy texts are the word of God or not, it is very easy for man to alter whatever they want into it. Nobody would have joined a religion back then had it said homosexuality was okay, which I agree does contradict the overall message of acceptance and forgiveness from the religion. That's why I guess I'm saying I at least feel like the overall message is what should be taken away and the only real issues surface when every detail gets looked through and then the person picks and chooses which one to base their hatred on

[QUOTE=toaster468;33433179]Yes he gave us the same thing that disproves him, ok.[/QUOTE] Science doesn't disprove God. It can disprove specific stories and certain elements but it can't disprove the concept of a deity.

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;33433403]Science doesn't disprove God. It can disprove specific stories and certain elements but it can't disprove the concept of a deity.[/QUOTE] That is quite correct. Because a deity is impossible to disprove. Which means that all possible conceivable deities are equally likely

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;33433403]Science doesn't disprove God. It can disprove specific stories and certain elements but it can't disprove the concept of a deity.[/QUOTE] I should have elaborated, it tries to disprove god.

[QUOTE=taipan;33432177]Ok, lets get that pastor some HIV, see if god likes her.[/QUOTE] I just bought some HIV down at the market today.

If anything, god was already healing them by making the medication available to them.

[QUOTE=Contag;33433424]That is quite correct. Because a deity is impossible to disprove. Which means that all possible conceivable deities are equally likely[/QUOTE] Yea verily

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;33432575]As a Christian I just like to believe that God gave us science to explain everything. Its not that hard[/QUOTE] That's called Agnosticism.

[QUOTE=Alixandah;33433493]If anything, god was already healing them by making the medication available to them.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]While out to sea, a large boat became shipwrecked and there was only a single survivor. This man prayed and asked God to save his life. Soon thereafter, another boat came by and offered the man some help. "No thanks," he said. "I'm waiting for God to save me." The men on the boat shrugged their shoulders and continued. As the man became more deeply concerned, another boat came by. Again, the people aboard offered this man some help, and again he politely decline. "I'm waiting for God to save me," he said again. After some time, the man began to lose his faith, and soon after that he died. Upon reaching Heaven, he had a chance to speak with God briefly. "Why did you let me die? Why didn't you answer my prayers?" "Idiot, I sent you two boats!"[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alixandah;33433493]If anything, [del]god[/del] science was already healing them by making the medication available to them.[/QUOTE] ftfy

[QUOTE=Alixandah;33433493]If anything, god was already healing them by making the medication available to them.[/QUOTE] cop-out answer if everyone sat on their ass, god wouldn't provide medication we'd just die which we do anyway thanks dickhead deity

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;33432610]ITT: More fuel for anti-religion atheist extremists.[/QUOTE] what the fuck is an atheist extremist seriously

honestly, if there was some kind of god, I wouldn't want to worship him because he's either a evil bastard or a complete fuck-up

I can attempt to disprove a deity: Ever since I knew the value of money every Sunday I would pray to God that I would get 1 Million dollars, still never got it. :v:

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;33433576]what the fuck is an atheist extremist seriously[/QUOTE] The atheists that burn down churches and drink the delicious sweet blood of pastors and priests while having watersports with a richard dawkins doll they're pretty extreme

[QUOTE=Frogz;33433538]That's called Agnosticism.[/QUOTE] No it's an attempt to prove God even with science.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;33433576]what the fuck is an atheist extremist seriously[/QUOTE] An atheist that partakes in sports such as snowboarding and BMX

What the hell made that pastor think it was a good idea?

[QUOTE=toaster468;33433600]I can attempt to disprove a deity: Ever since I knew the value of money every Sunday I would pray to God that I would get 1 Million dollars, still never got it. :v:[/QUOTE] I think god got his wires mixed up, because he answered all the "want a million dollars" by making everyone in Zimbabwe a millionaire

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;33433576]what the fuck is an atheist extremist seriously[/QUOTE] Post #63. Pretty much people who make it their life's goal to disprove and cast hatred on religion and people who are religious.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;33433740]Post #63. Pretty much people who make it their life's goal to disprove and cast hatred on religion and people who are religious.[/QUOTE] there's nothing wrong with trying to disprove religion you're an idiot if you think that's "extremism"

Are you always this angry of a person. Have you ever heard of the phrase "live and let live"

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;33433740]Post #63. Pretty much people who make it their life's goal to disprove and cast hatred on religion and people who are religious.[/QUOTE] Uh, yeah that's not extreme, extreme is killing people for their views, like some terrorists in the middle east, as well as others.

[QUOTE=toaster468;33433853]Uh, yeah that's not extreme, extreme is killing people for their views, like some terrorists in the middle east, as well as others.[/QUOTE] Then lets just agree that there is certain levels of extremity and that maybe not any single person has all of the answers.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;33433826]Are you always this angry of a person. Have you ever heard of the phrase "live and let live"[/QUOTE] I'm sick of this belief that religion is this magical subject that you're unable to touch with rational, critical thought. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of religion. To call this "extremism" is absolutely ridiculous.

Not the be a prick but they would have died eventually.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;33433901]I'm sick of this belief that religion is this magical subject that you're unable to touch with rational, critical thought. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of religion. To call this "extremism" is absolutely ridiculous.[/QUOTE] This may very well be true. But wouldn't you say it's a bit extreme to go out of your way to tell somebody that what they believe in is wrong? It may not be as far as killign someone for it, but to even go out of your way is extreme in my books. Theres nothing wrong with being critical, but people aren't being critical. People are spewing hatred. Thats not what 'critical' means.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;33433964]This may very well be true. But wouldn't you say it's a bit extreme to go out of your way to tell somebody that what they believe in is wrong? It may not be as far as killign someone for it, but to even go out of your way is extreme in my books. Theres nothing wrong with being critical, but people aren't being critical. People are spewing hatred. Thats not what 'critical' means.[/QUOTE] But then why are we talking about extreme atheists when this pastor was obviously more extreme by even considering the fact of not taking medicine?

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;33433964]This may very well be true. But wouldn't you say it's a bit extreme to go out of your way to tell somebody that what they believe in is wrong? It may not be as far as killign someone for it, but to even go out of your way is extreme in my books. Theres nothing wrong with being critical, but people aren't being critical. People are spewing hatred. Thats not what 'critical' means.[/QUOTE] who is spewing hatred

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;33433901]I'm sick of this belief that religion is this magical subject that you're unable to touch with rational, critical thought. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being critical of religion. To call this "extremism" is absolutely ridiculous.[/QUOTE] You seem to have missed an important part of his statement though. [QUOTE=DiBBs27;33433740]Post #63. Pretty much people who make it their life's goal to disprove [b]and cast hatred on religion and people who are religious[/b].[/QUOTE] That said, I wouldn't call that extremism. Certainly on the malicious side, but not as extreme as it gets.