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Westboro Baptist church gets their asses fucking chased out of tornado damaged town.

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[QUOTE=Matthew7434;44481366]when johnnymos mother dies im going to picket and scream that his mother is in hell and that god made it happen and theres nothing he can do because its my free speech[/QUOTE] Have fun.

One of these days they are going to mess with the wrong people. Ot almost happened when they tried to protest Jeff Hannemans's funeral, but because the Slayer fans were so agressive they decided not to. But mark my words, they will get their asses beat if they continue to do this, it's just unavoidable, and I'm going to love to watch that happen. You can say whatever you want and practise whatever religion you feel like, but it's not right to mock people.

[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;44480756]I'm just wondering what will happen when a disaster destroys their church. Will the WBC protest themselves?[/QUOTE] Yeah, a totally "natural" disaster will befall them sooner or later. Good to see these assholes are finally starting to get what they deserve. Let's keep it up.

[QUOTE=Matthew7434;44481366]when johnnymos mother dies im going to picket and scream that his mother is in hell and that god made it happen and theres nothing he can do because its my free speech[/QUOTE] Really? I'm sick of everyone who was mad at WBC going like "I'm going to picket their funerals or I'm going to beat the fuck out of WBC members". Look, they got chased out of a town by people who were obviously emotionally distraught, no harm physical harm was done to them and that whole situation is good. The WBC left and no one had to injure each other. I would love if the whole situation didn't have to happen in the first place, but we don't live in a perfect world. That said, I don't think it is right to defend the WBC here, yes free speech is important, very much so, but targeting minorities and people who already have less rights is hate mongering plain and simple, and imo there should be more laws to protect already vulnerable groups.

There should be passed a law that considers WBC members subhuman and vermin. I wanna shoot some varmints dammit.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44481370]Also, Westboro protests against homosexuality; they actively seek to oppress the human rights of a minority. I'm not sure that this should be protected under law.[/QUOTE] But they don't do it with anything except words. I feel like if they donated to anti-gay groups it would be more harmful than their picketing. I don't see a whole lot of danger that they're going to convert previously sensible people into homophobes with their signs. And then either we allow people to vote for gay rights, in which case we deem their opinions on the issue of gay rights at least valid if not good and they should definitely be allowed to spread their opinion, or we legislate that gays have equal rights regardless of what the populace says, and their opinion doesn't matter anyway.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44481477]or we legislate that gays have equal rights regardless of what the populace says, and their opinion doesn't matter anyway.[/QUOTE] Ok so I'm obviously hugely biased, but would that even be a problem? It's just basic human rights? Like we don't ask people's opinion on giving Russians rights.

[QUOTE=Explosions;44480701]Who cares about free speech right?[/QUOTE] This is what the constitution says about free speech. [QUOTE=The First Amendment] [B]Congress shall make no law[/B] respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or [B]abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press[/B]; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. [/QUOTE] As I'm hoping you'll be able to notice, the situation in the video does not involve Congress, nor does it involve any legislation made by congress, or anything of that nature. When you speak freely to another person, there is [I]no law[/I] protecting you from the consequences of what you say other than assault, murder, or anything of that nature. It's perfectly reasonable to expect to get your ass demolished for protesting the funerals of dead children. This is why you have 100 dumb ratings and counting.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44481477]But they don't do it with anything except words. I feel like if they donated to anti-gay groups it would be more harmful than their picketing. I don't see a whole lot of danger that they're going to convert previously sensible people into homophobes with their signs. And then either we allow people to vote for gay rights, in which case we deem their opinions on the issue of gay rights at least valid if not good and they should definitely be allowed to spread their opinion, or we legislate that gays have equal rights regardless of what the populace says, and their opinion doesn't matter anyway.[/QUOTE] Fair enough, I guess. Though I'm not sure I agree with it being left up to a vote regardless. Should we have the power to elect whether or not a group of people get treated fairly?

[QUOTE=Explosions;44480701]Who cares about free speech right?[/QUOTE] They are using their right to free speech. What a lot of people seem to forget is that all free speech has consequences, especially if you're expressing vast and poisonous levels of hate.

[QUOTE=Quark:;44481533]This is what the constitution says about free speech. As I'm hoping you'll be able to notice, the situation in the video does not involve Congress, nor does it involve any legislation made by congress, or anything of that nature. When you speak freely to another person, there is [I]no law[/I] protecting you from the consequences of what you say other than assault, murder, or anything of that nature. It's perfectly reasonable to expect to get your ass demolished for protesting the funerals of dead children. This is why you have 100 dumb ratings and counting.[/QUOTE] Why are you talking about the first amendment? I am talking about the people of that town trying to attack the WBC because they got offended.

[QUOTE=Explosions;44481603]Why are you talking about the first amendment? I am talking about the people of that town trying to attack the WBC because they got offended.[/QUOTE] uh [QUOTE=Explosions;44480701]Who cares about free speech right?[/QUOTE] i guess your ratings are self-explanatory

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44481549]Fair enough, I guess. Though I'm not sure I agree with it being left up to a vote regardless. Should we have the power to elect whether or not a group of people get treated fairly?[/QUOTE] I wasn't coming down one way or the other, I was just saying that you've essentially got two options and in either case the WBCs opinions should be voiced because either we're asking for the opinions of the public so we've deemed that they're relevant, or their opinions are worthless anyway and we can disregard them. The WBC isn't exercising any undue amount of control over homosexuals with what they do.

Put all them WBC in a strip of land and let them own it. Invade them and then liberate them loool

[QUOTE=noneshallpass;44481520]Ok so I'm obviously hugely biased, but would that even be a problem? It's just basic human rights? Like we don't ask people's opinion on giving Russians rights.[/QUOTE] I agree that the public's opinion shouldn't be necessary (part of the whole point of the bill of rights is the public doesn't get to oppress minorities just because most people want to), but I don't want to assume how it might actually happen in practice.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44481705]I agree that the public's opinion shouldn't be necessary (part of the whole point of the bill of rights is the public doesn't get to oppress minorities just because most people want to), but I don't want to assume how it might actually happen in practice.[/QUOTE] OK yeah, no I get you. I was just wondering.

[QUOTE=Explosions;44481603]Why are you talking about the first amendment? I am talking about the people of that town trying to attack the WBC because they got offended.[/QUOTE] God, just- Im tired of this devils advocate crap, they're the fucking WBC, they hate monger and spout dumb shit 24/7 just to piss people off, picket funerals, and celebrate the death of innocent people. Stop defending them with "Oh but free speech". Free speech? Yeah? I dont think anyone really cares, its not like the government ran them out. [editline]7th April 2014[/editline] Also, all the "Fags will burn in hell" is pretty blatantly hate speech.

[QUOTE=Dukov Traboski;44480667]One of these days they are gonna picket the wrong place and just get shot.[/QUOTE] I'm really surprised it hasn't happened yet.

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;44481275]We should just add "unless you're an asshole" to the end of the 1st amendment. Perfect.[/QUOTE]yeah but its hard to prove someone is an asshole if its something the whole country has to debate over. so how is the clock on one of these guys some how not getting shot/killed yet going since it WILL happen if they go to the right place

[QUOTE=Slarav;44481425]There should be passed a law that considers WBC members subhuman and vermin. I wanna shoot some varmints dammit.[/QUOTE] I wish I could be as edgy as you.

[QUOTE=Maegord;44481910]I wish I could be as edgy as you.[/QUOTE] I was trying to be funny, but I failed miserably looking at the box shower :v:

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44481081]Just like how I wouldn't cry out how much I love to have sex with corpses and how it should be legal to marry a corpse.[/QUOTE] You should probably keep that to the "what turns you on the most" thread. [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;44481115]I get that it's hate speech but that doesn't matter to me. I don't care if they hate people. I don't care if they hate me. They are just opinions.[/QUOTE] You might not care but others are going to. They may be words but words are one of the bigger things setting us aside from animals, they're very important to people and can hurt a lot more than people want to accept. [QUOTE=Explosions;44481213]2. Freedom of speech doesn't only mean the freedom of speech, but the freedom to listen as well. When you bar people like Holocaust deniers, creationists, or the WBC from speaking, you make yourself a prisoner of your own action.[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech means plain and simple the freedom to say whatever you want. Except even in the US there are still things that you're not allowed to say such as screaming out fire in a crowded theater. Regardless though freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences for what you say. Sure, running the WBC out of town through violence isn't okay. But the WBC brings this sort of thing on itself. If they weren't assholes to innocent people then things like this wouldn't even have to be an issue. People were already running high emotionally there, the WBC came in and stirred shit up in what was essentially a powder keg. No shit people reacted badly.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44481081]All because people have no idea what the First Amendment means. Yes we have a right to protest. The people America are not saying that the WBC couldn't picket things saying people deserved it. The people of America were saying that they probably shouldn't. [b]Just like how I wouldn't cry out how much I love to have sex with corpses and how it should be legal to marry a corpse. Freedom of Speech, does not mean TOTAL freedom of speech.[/b][/QUOTE] time to start a new blackmail bookmark folder [editline]e[/editline] for freedom

I appreciate the WBC in a silver-lining sort of way. I mean, they protest all this awful shit, causing people to hate them for it. They also protest gay stuff This means that people would actively or subconsciously associate bigoted homophobia with this group of awful subhumans. I wouldn't be surprised if some people were on the fence regarding homophobia, and after seeing the worst of the worst, were pushed over to tolerance.

[QUOTE=dai;44482140]time to start a new blackmail bookmark folder [editline]e[/editline] for freedom[/QUOTE] The things I put up with to [b]BONE[/b] someone. :v:

A man I know once said (Although he was probably quoting someone): "Rights are relative, not absolute. You have your rights until they infringe upon the rights of others." Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Man, the freedom of speech you guys have in America just sounds super weird to me. Could I legally go around and say that black people are below white people and should be our slaves?

[QUOTE=Kristviljan;44482499]Man, the freedom of speech you guys have in America just sounds super weird to me. Could I legally go around and say that black people are below white people and should be our slaves?[/QUOTE] No, that would classify as hate speech likely, possibly even "fighting words".

[QUOTE=deadoon;44482535]No, that would classify as hate speech likely, possibly even "fighting words".[/QUOTE] Replace black with gay and you'd be more likely to get away with it though. Even more so if you replaced it with transgender instead. (Though both those are becoming more and more unacceptable as time passes.)

Doing anything to defend these people is fucking pathetic. They're a bunch of disgusting, useless, ignorant people who deserve to be shot. Go tell any well minded person you're in defence of the WBC and see what they think of you.

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