Israelis back discrimination against Arabs: poll - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Megafan;38180352]Do you know what a reasonable sample size is?[/QUOTE] In a state like Israel, 503 people is definitely not a reasonable sample size.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;38180109]and that you might consider holding Israel to the same standard as you do other nations in the region[/QUOTE] we hold israel to a high standard because they at least pretend to be a civilized country the other countries in the region do no such thing

[QUOTE=Kero_;38180829]In a state like Israel, 503 people is definitely not a reasonable sample size.[/QUOTE] It's statistically valid, assuming it was a truely random sample. If you want to call the sample into question, you would have to find a factor in the people that were polled that made it distinctly non-random. [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;38179551][URL="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman"]No true Israeli?[/URL] Hate to break it to you, but given the population of Israel, 503 people is enough to get a confidence interval of about 5 with 99% certainty. This shit is accurate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kero_;38180829]In a state like Israel, 503 people is definitely not a reasonable sample size.[/QUOTE] And in what position are you to say this?

[QUOTE=Glorbo;38177737]Yeah, because Iraq, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, and Egypt were all known to excel in the Human Rights department.[/QUOTE] Oppressing one's own citizens is not the same as oppressing another's citizens. Those countries may well be the scum of the Earth, but it's not the people's fault that their lives are such a mess. Israel and it's citizens (apparently) have no problem with being what they are. [editline]25th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kero_;38180829]In a state like Israel, 503 people is definitely not a reasonable sample size.[/QUOTE] Do you not understand how statistics work?

[QUOTE=Kero_;38180829]In a state like Israel, 503 people is definitely not a reasonable sample size.[/QUOTE] Not really, with a population of about 8 million people, you don't need much.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;38180109]I just think that using ridiculous rhetoric like apartheid state and concentration camp is a stupid oversimplification and its not productive in any kind of conversation about anything [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]a·part·heid/əˈpärtˌ(h)āt/ Noun: 1 (in South Africa) A policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race. 2 [B]Segregation in other contexts[/B].[/QUOTE] Now where the fuck are you getting 'oversimplification'? Segregation is segregation. There's no, [I]'Yeah but they [B]kiiindda[/B] get equal rights to israeli-jews'[/I]. [editline]25th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kero_;38180829]In a state like Israel, 503 people is definitely not a reasonable sample size.[/QUOTE] Go take stats.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38181155]we hold israel to a high standard because they at least pretend to be a civilized country the other countries in the region do no such thing[/QUOTE] UAE isn't civilized? Along with Qatar, Bahrain, etc? What do you mean by civilized mean at this point?

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;38186915]UAE isn't civilized? Along with Qatar, Bahrain, etc? What do you mean by civilized mean at this point?[/QUOTE] civilized as in western values

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38190700]civilized as in western values[/QUOTE] You have a narrow view of "civilized" then.

[QUOTE=laserguided;38191038]You have a narrow view of "civilized" then.[/QUOTE] Well yes that's kind of the point.

Unsurprising. That entire region has been at each others throats for longer than the oldest person on Facepunch can remember. The society they grow up in teaches them to hate each other on both and all sides, which is a big contributor and fuel to the seemingly never-ending conflicts.

[QUOTE=mac338;38191548]Unsurprising. That entire region has been at each others throats for longer than the oldest person on Facepunch can remember. The society they grow up in teaches them to hate each other on both and all sides, which is a big contributor and fuel to the seemingly never-ending conflicts.[/QUOTE] I think it's more that being in such a situation, told for decades that everyone around you is out to get you, makes a person far more conservative and right-wing. It doesn't matter what country you're from, having an enemy and fear is a huge boost for conservatives and this kind of xenophobic garbage goes well with conservatism.