Charter makes a bid to buy Time Warner Cable for $78.7B ($56B without debt)
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[QUOTE=woolio1;47812110]Good lord... That's terrible.[/QUOTE]
The worst part? We're literally one street away from Charter's district and this is our only option.
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At this point I'd take a couple of tin cans connected with fucking strings if they were uncapped.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck is this bullshit? Jesus christ that's even worse than mine.
[QUOTE=Maas;47811798]Getting 50/5 for over 100$, so that's nice[/QUOTE]
I know Comcast is terrible but here in Houston they offered me 150/10 for $72.
These companies are adding caps because they're scared of loosing cable TV subscribers.
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At this point I'd take a couple of tin cans connected with fucking strings if they were uncapped.[/QUOTE]
how is this legal
[QUOTE=woolio1;47811007]Apparently the base speed for Charter residential is 60/4 for $30 a month, with a 250GB soft cap. Business tier 1 is 75/4 with no soft cap for $80. Is that better than what you're getting now?[/QUOTE]
A Cap? For home internet? What the fuck is this, Canada?
I hate it when companies do this. I should be able to download as much as I want on the service I pay for. How the hell are you going to restrict my usage based on an arbitrary number of imaginary 1's and 0's?
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812532]A Cap? For home internet? What the fuck is this, Canada?
I hate it when companies do this. I should be able to download as much as I want on the service I pay for. How the hell are you going to restrict my usage based on an arbitrary number of imaginary 1's and 0's?[/QUOTE]
Caps for US home internet have been a thing for several years now and are rapidly growing.
[QUOTE=mralexs;47811547]Yeah my router kept going out so they bought us a new one and upgraded our speed to 5 Mbps[/QUOTE]
...TO 5mbps or BY 5mbps?
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[QUOTE=Levelog;47812543]Caps for US home internet have been a thing for several years now and are rapidly growing.[/QUOTE]
Since when? In the 23 years I've had internet in 15 cities in 5 states I've never, ever had a cap.
And just because it's "becoming" a thing doesn't make it acceptable. How the fuck can you put a cap on something that is infinite? It's not a resource. That's like a florist telling customers they can only sniff the flowers they buy once a day, or the florist will come and take the flowers away from the customer unless they pay an additional fee to sniff the flowers more.
[QUOTE=Maas;47810991]As somebody whose only ISP in my area is TWC, I really hope this turns out good.[/QUOTE]
Charter services in my area is good. I would prefer Charter + TWC than Comcast + TWC. Their service prices are lower than TWC, Comcast, and AT&T. They have no equipment or installation costs (unless its super special, like laying down +150ft of Cat11 Coax). I contracted for them and they were always trying to buyout TWC in Wisconsin. It's shame though I'm moving and will have to choose between TWC or AT&T for my new house doesn't have charter services in the area.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812556]...TO 5mbps or BY 5mbps?
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Since when? In the 23 years I've had internet in 15 cities in 5 states I've never, ever had a cap.
And just because it's "becoming" a thing doesn't make it acceptable. How the fuck can you put a cap on something that is infinite? It's not a resource. That's like a florist telling customers they can only sniff the flowers they buy once a day, or the florist will come and take the flowers away from the customer unless they pay an additional fee to sniff the flowers more.[/QUOTE]
Since shortly after they started introducing caps on phones. It was a pretty big deal at the time. ATT does it, Comcast does it, but doesn't enforce it everywhere. My local ISP does, as do a lot of smaller ones. It's a shitty thing, but I wouldn't exactly consider bandwidth infinite.
[QUOTE=Maas;47810991]As somebody whose only ISP in my area is TWC, I really hope this turns out good.[/QUOTE]
It really depends on where you are and if you are a new customer or not. They have a lot of bullshit promos for new customers, but no loyalty programs, so in areas such as Wisconsin where they are a monopoly ISP older customers get the shaft big time when it comes to prices.
[QUOTE=.Lain;47812508]how is this legal[/QUOTE]
free market capitalism baby
[QUOTE=unrezt;47812597]It really depends on where you are and if you are a new customer or not. They have a lot of bullshit promos for new customers, but no loyalty programs, so in areas such as Wisconsin where they are a monopoly ISP older customers get the shaft big time when it comes to prices.[/QUOTE]
TWC for me is actually great. They just rolled out here, so their lines are FAR from over saturated, I consistently get 10% up/down more than I pay for, and I think I've had downtime maybe 4 times in the last year?
[QUOTE=Levelog;47812585]Since shortly after they started introducing caps on phones. It was a pretty big deal at the time. ATT does it, Comcast does it, but doesn't enforce it everywhere. My local ISP does, as do a lot of smaller ones. It's a shitty thing, but I wouldn't exactly consider bandwidth infinite.[/QUOTE]
AT&T does not. I've had them for years, no cap. Brighthouse doesn't. Verizon doesn't. None of the Bell companies I had back in the 90's did it. Century Link doesn't.
Cellular carriers cap data because it's a completely different ball game than residential data. It actually matters on mobile networks because of how the infrastructure is set up and runs. It matters much, much, much less on residential and commercial networks.
I haven't encountered a cap in 23 years of residential internet. We have AT&T now and they DO NOT have a cap. I'll believe that comcast does because they're the fucking devil.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812671]AT&T does not. I've had them for years, no cap. Brighthouse doesn't. Verizon doesn't. None of the Bell companies I had back in the 90's did it. Century Link doesn't.
Cellular carriers cap data because it's a completely different ball game than residential data. It actually matters on mobile networks because of how the infrastructure is set up and runs. It matters much, much, much less on residential and commercial networks.
I haven't encountered a cap in 23 years of residential internet. We have AT&T now and they DO NOT have a cap. I'll believe that comcast does because they're the fucking devil.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm saying that AT&T DOES cap here. They have a 250gb cap. Apparently they don't seem to enforce it if you have the full home phone/cable/internet package, but all of my friends who just have the internet get enforced caps. So why don't you do a bit more research before you give a wide sweeping statement like they don't cap?
[QUOTE=Levelog;47812680]Well I'm saying that AT&T DOES cap here. They have a 250gb cap. Apparently they don't seem to enforce it if you have the full home phone/cable/internet package, but all of my friends who just have the internet get enforced caps. So why don't you do a bit more research before you give a wide sweeping statement like they don't cap?[/QUOTE]
Where is "here" that they cap? And can you provide proof?
I live in central florida in a very densely populated area. They do not cap here. If they don't cap here where it might actually make a bit of difference I find it extremely hard to believe they cap wherever it is you say they do.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812720]Where is "here" that they cap? And can you provide proof?
I live in central florida in a very densely populated area. They do not cap here. If they don't cap here where it might actually make a bit of difference I find it extremely hard to believe they cap wherever it is you say they do.[/QUOTE]
Here ya go.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/la983gj.png[/img]
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It's almost like I said they don't enforce it everywhere.
Edit: And oh yeah, here is Northwest Ohio.
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At this point I'd take a couple of tin cans connected with fucking strings if they were uncapped.[/QUOTE]
Wow. In what world is this acceptable?
at&t only enforces the old dsl services. They don't enforce adsl2+ and vdsl2 customers.
The old dsl services have a 150GB cap.
[QUOTE=ghost901;47812776]at&t only enforces the old DSL services. They don't enforce adsl2+ and vdsl2 customers.[/QUOTE]
Ours here isn't DSL. Actually AT&T finally just shut down all their old DSL lines.
[QUOTE=Levelog;47812747]Here ya go.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/la983gj.png[/img]
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It's almost like I said they don't enforce it everywhere.
Edit: And oh yeah, here is Northwest Ohio.[/QUOTE]
Weird. Our agreement doesn't even mention a cap in it in Florida. Why the fuck do they have it in yours?
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[QUOTE=Levelog;47812785]Ours here isn't DSL. Actually AT&T finally just shut down all their old DSL lines.[/QUOTE]
Same. AT&T here has a fiber network from the main offices to the hubs and trunks, with high speed stranded copper coax running from the trunks on the street to the houses.
When I lived in Clearwater I had Brighthouse and they used a similar system.
I had Verizon Fios in Sarasota. Supposed to be all fiber but it fucking sucked. Went down all the time and they gave us the shittiest routers that barely got to the entire house.
[QUOTE=Levelog;47812785]Ours here isn't DSL. Actually AT&T finally just shut down all their old DSL lines.[/QUOTE]
Unless it's a high end area I call bullshit. At&t would never do that.
The customers that have fiber to their home are likely to get GigaPower which is uncapped.
[QUOTE=ghost901;47812810]Unless it's a high end area I call bullshit. At&t would never do that.
The customers that have fiber to their home are likely to get GigaPower which is uncapped.[/QUOTE]
Why do you find that so hard to believe? DSL is an old technology. Most carriers are running on coaxial now. It offers higher speed and less signal decay, and coaxial is fucking everywhere.
I always thought Comcast was bad. Then I got my job and had to deal with TWC at one of our locations. Their "business" prices are flat out rape. $80 a month, 7 down, 768kb up? Then $10 on top for a static IP? I love my $60 Comcast with 100 down, 12 up but average 130 down and 15 up.
[QUOTE=ghost901;47812810]Unless it's a high end area I call bullshit. At&t would never do that.
The customers that have fiber to their home are likely to get GigaPower which is uncapped.[/QUOTE]
My area isn't going to get GigaPower anytime soon. I don't see a nationwide rollout happening of that. They'll do what they want because the only ISP in the area that doesn't have caps is only available in very limited areas. (TWC)
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812891]Why do you find that so hard to believe? DSL is an old technology. Most carriers are running on coaxial now. It offers higher speed and less signal decay, and coaxial is fucking everywhere.[/QUOTE]
At&t does not use coaxial. They only use dsl and fiber.
The only time you would see coaxial with at&t is when a tech decides to reuse existing coax outlets from the gateway to the TV receivers on the premises.
[QUOTE=ghost901;47812960]At&t does not use coaxial. They only use dsl and fiber.
The only time you would see coaxial with at&t is when a tech decides to reuse existing coax outlets from the gateway to the TV receivers on the premises.[/QUOTE]
Uh. AT&T very much DOES use coaxial. They did our entire house with coaxial.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812996]Uh. AT&T very much DOES use coaxial. They did our entire house with coaxial.[/QUOTE]
Whats the model of your at&t gateway?
[QUOTE=ghost901;47813009]Whats the model of your at&t gateway?[/QUOTE]
The "Oh look it uses Coaxial"
[t]http://i.cubeupload.com/3R0hDl.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813033]The "Oh look it uses Coaxial"
[t]http://i.cubeupload.com/3R0hDl.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Better view of the back connections would be better. Like I said earlier they sometimes use coax for u-verse TV from the gateway
[QUOTE=ghost901;47813069]Better view of the back connections would be better.[/QUOTE]
Not gonna happen, sorry. It's extremely tight for some ungodly fucking reason. That was about as far out as I could pull/turn it.
Anyway I was more posting it as proof that they do in fact use coaxial. Not to satiate your question about what model it is.
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