[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25411655]Yusuf is alt of banned user Afgman and I guess is trolling us
Just an FYI[/QUOTE]
Oh, that makes sense. Thought it was some other guy as we've had a few other Muslim guys here with similar attitudes but Afgman seems likely.
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I'm leaving in minutes so I'm going to use pretty pictures so hopefully Yusuf understands better
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25411668]No, he hates Islam, not Muslims. People like Dawkins who hate Christianity do not hate Christians so why should it apply here? He's got a lot of extremist views on it that are bordering fascist but it seems he has no issue with Muslims who do not follow Islam.[/QUOTE]
He hates Muslims, it's obvious. Saying that he only hates Islam is just beating around the bush.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25411696]Oh, that makes sense. Thought it was some other guy as we've had a few other Muslim guys here with similar attitudes but Afgman seems likely.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I am AFGMAN, but what does this have to do with the topic?
Sorry guys But I am back to kick your asses.
So go ahead post your best sources cause all you are doing right now is posting shit without any SOURCES!
Go to AliSina's website and go find me something to go debate about. This is the most mind numbing Debate I have ever had.
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411730]Yes, I am AFGMAN, but what does this have to do with the topic?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411688]
Who is AFGMAN?[/QUOTE]
please, if you're being totally serious shut the fuck up already, but if you're trolling keep posting
[QUOTE=cccritical;25411745]please, if you're being totally serious shut the fuck up already, but if you're trolling keep posting[/QUOTE]
I am serious.
Don't loose your cool easy now.
[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;25411729]He hates Muslims, it's obvious. Saying that he only hates Islam is just beating around the bush.[/QUOTE]
Well it's obvious that some hate of Islam would spill over to people who follow it strictly but it's an ideological thing, not a race thing. Any Westerner who follows Islam would be just as hated while an Atheist Arab would be ok in his book. Hating people for political/religious/personal reasons =/= racist.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25411791]Well it's obvious that some hate of Islam would spill over to people who follow it strictly but it's an ideological thing, not a race thing. Any Westerner who follows Islam would be just as hated while an Atheist Arab would be ok in his book. Hating people for political/religious/personal reasons =/= racist.[/QUOTE]
You are hating our way of life. I mean it does not take rocket science to figure out Gert Williams is a closet racist and most likely fail.
BTW Ethug moar.
All your points are weak and easily debatable I mean is this all you can do? People who are left wings must have a lower IQ than the rest of the parties.
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411771]I am serious.
Don't loose your cool easy now.[/QUOTE]
it's not that I'm mad, first I'm disappointed, then I'm in disbelief because of the denial, then I'm depressed because you have no factual basis on anything you type, then I'm in disbelief again because of your irony, then I'm impatient because you won't bother arguing, you just want to yell "NOBODY FORCED VILKS" and "ISLAMOPHOBE"
ps you say you hate American culture but we absolutely cannot hate Islamic culture because..?
[editline]14th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411810]
All your points are weak and easily debatable I mean is this all you can do? People who are left wings must have a lower IQ than the rest of the parties.[/QUOTE]
stricter immigration and enforcement is part of right-wing ideology
so now not only can you not argue successfully or intelligently about your own religion but you don't understand what politics are :bravo:
[QUOTE=cccritical;25411833]it's not that I'm mad, first I'm disappointed, then I'm in disbelief because of the denial, then I'm depressed because you have no factual basis on anything you type, then I'm in disbelief again because of your irony, then I'm impatient because you won't bother arguing, you just want to yell "NOBODY FORCED VILKS" and "ISLAMOPHOBE"
ps you say you hate American culture but we absolutely cannot hate Islamic culture because..?[/QUOTE]
If someone hates American culture he hates American people.
If you payed attention and heard some of my points.
Vilks is not lawful for any punishments because he is not bound by islamic law, but if he was in a Islamic state than that would be a diff. story.
Posting the Vilks story makes you look like a dumb ass. Please move a long and bring up a new point.
Heh, I knew that would piss you off.
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411810]You are hating our way of life. I mean it does not take rocket science to figure out Gert Williams is a closet racist and most likely fail.
BTW Ethug moar.
All your points are weak and easily debatable I mean is this all you can do? People who are left wings must have a lower IQ than the rest of the parties.[/QUOTE]
Haha, oh wow. And we're the ones who are trolling.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25411873]Haha, oh wow. And we're the ones who are trolling.[/QUOTE]
Yup Cause It was a bait. Like a bunch of rabid dogs trying to catch me trolling.
How could you give a name to Allah? You are limiting his power by giving him a set name. You can no longer mention him, or think of him, because if you think of him, you are limiting his power.
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Vilks is not lawful for any punishments because he is not bound by islamic law, but if he was in a Islamic state than that would be a diff. story.[/QUOTE]
ohhh I get it it's just a group of radicals that did that stuff to him but if he were in an islamic state it would've been perfectly okay and everybody would join in
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411858]
Heh, I knew that would piss you off.[/QUOTE]
should've called troll when you kept posting
[editline]14th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Explosions;25411902]How could you give a name to Allah? You are limiting his power by giving him a set name. You can no longer mention him, or think of him, because if you think of him, you are limiting his power.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand the whole "name power" thing some cultures have
I didn't even realize there was such a thing until [b]bible study[/b] last week
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411858]If someone hates American culture he hates American people.[/QUOTE]
Nope.
Hating all Americans relies on the asumption that they all follow American culture and are all people who you would hate. Not everyone is the same and generalising them as such is not productive. Hating Muslims relies on them all being fanatical lunatics who would rather suicide bomb than help someone.
[QUOTE=Explosions;25411902]How could you give a name to Allah? You are limiting his power by giving him a set name. You can no longer mention him, or think of him, because if you think of him, you are limiting his power.[/QUOTE]
Full name is Allah SWT
SWT means lord and creator of all the universe.
How? You have been watching to much star wars, son.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25411929]Nope.
Hating all Americans relies on the asumption that they all follow American culture and are all people who you would hate. Not everyone is the same and generalising them as such is not productive. Hating Muslims relies on them all being fanatical lunatics who would rather suicide bomb than help someone.[/QUOTE]
Technically a American would follow American culture.
Like how a Muslim would follow muslim laws.
ohhh I get it it's just a group of radicals that did that stuff to him but if he were in an islamic state it would've been perfectly okay and everybody would join in
He would not have done that in a Islamic state most likely, and please stay on topic. You can draw pictures just get out of our muslim country.
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411621]I am talking about the other guy Ecarnacion.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck did I do?
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411688][B]I hate America[/B] but I do not hate Americans.
I hate American culture [B]but I do not hate America[/B].[/quote]
What?
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411688]Islam is our way of life if you hate Islam you hate Muslims.[/quote]
What?
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411688]Who is AFGMAN?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411730]Yes, I am AFGMAN[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411931]You can draw pictures just get out of our muslim country.[/QUOTE]
ahahahahahaha
you should get this as a title
I am back?
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411931]Technically a American would follow American culture.
Like how a Muslim would follow muslim laws.[/QUOTE]
I know several Turks who could outdrink me and have more tattoos than me. Just because they are Muslims does not mean they have to follow Islam. You are basing it on a horribly flawed premise and you have nothing else.
[QUOTE=cccritical;25411971]ahahahahahaha
you should get this as a title[/QUOTE]
You can wear burkas just get out of our european country.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25411976]I know several Turks who could outdrink me and have more tattoos than me. Just because they are Muslims does not mean they have to follow Islam. You are basing it on a horribly flawed premise and you have nothing else.[/QUOTE]
Than they are not Muslims.
Muslims are people who Submit to God, and if you want to submit to God you gotta follow God's Law.
[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25411997]You can wear burkas just get out of our european country.[/QUOTE]
Should have never started expanding.
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411999]Than they are not Muslims.
Muslims are people who Submit to God, and if you want to submit to God you gotta follow God's Law.
Should have never started expanding.[/QUOTE]
So if someone doesn't follow Islam the exact way you call it, they aren't really a Muslim? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman]That sounds familiar.[/url]
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411931]Full name is Allah SWT
SWT means lord and creator of all the universe.
How? You have been watching to much star wars, son.
Technically a American would follow American culture.
Like how a Muslim would follow muslim laws.
ohhh I get it it's just a group of radicals that did that stuff to him but if he were in an islamic state it would've been perfectly okay and everybody would join in
He would not have done that in a Islamic state most likely, and please stay on topic. You can draw pictures just get out of our muslim country.[/QUOTE]
This isn't relevant to the post but whatever. I'm tired of your "you don't have to draw the picture" bullshit, so answer me this.
Is it justifiable to kill a person for such an offense? Or in clearer terms, do you condemn any violence stemming from free expression? If not, or if you say "you don't have to draw the picture", then you support the [B]murder of a person for expressing their opinion. [/B]
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;25412027]This isn't relevant to the post but whatever. I'm tired of your "you don't have to draw the picture" bullshit, so answer me this.
Is it justifiable to kill a person for such an offense? Or in clearer terms, do you condemn any violence stemming from free expression? If not, or if you say "you don't have to draw the picture", then you support the [B]murder of a person for expressing their opinion. [/B][/QUOTE]
You can draw the picture just don't draw it in a Muslim Country. Their you go problem solved now everyone is happy.
Most people want to profit out of this so they publish it.
you uploaded it. Lmao!
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412059]You can draw the picture just don't draw it in a Muslim Country. Their you go problem solved now everyone is happy.
Most people want to profit out of this so they publish it.
you uploaded it. Lmao![/QUOTE]Ok cool you support murder. Good to know.
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412059]You can draw the picture just don't draw it in a Muslim Country. Their you go problem solved now everyone is happy.
Most people want to profit out of this so they publish it.
you uploaded it. Lmao![/QUOTE]
Lars Vilks doesn't live in a Muslim country.
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412059]You can draw the picture just don't draw it in a Muslim Country. Their you go problem solved now everyone is happy.
Most people want to profit out of this so they publish it.
you uploaded it. Lmao![/QUOTE]
lmao it takes like 10 seconds
[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412059]You can draw the picture just don't draw it in a Muslim Country. Their you go problem solved now everyone is happy.
Most people want to profit out of this so they publish it.
you uploaded it. Lmao![/QUOTE]
As I recall there were tens of thousands of Muhammad drawings submitted on draw Muhammad day for the sole purpose of expressing freedom of opinion. Compared to a few authors who did it originally to also express their opinion, I don't know where you come up with the figure that 3/4 of people do it for fame or profit.
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