Multicultural Germany turning against Muslims - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;25412083]Ok cool you support murder. Good to know.[/QUOTE] Murder is unlawful killing. You broke the law technically. [QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25411997]You can wear burkas just get out of our european country.[/QUOTE] 1 Muslim = all the Muslims. [QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25412112]As I recall there were tens of thousands of Muhammad drawings submitted on draw Muhammad day for the sole purpose of expressing freedom of opinion. Compared to a few authors who did it originally to also express their opinion, I don't know where you come up with the figure that 3/4 of people do it for fame or profit.[/QUOTE] Fame. [QUOTE=Tetracycline;25412094]lmao it takes like 10 seconds[/QUOTE] Thanks now it looks like a scandal I am afgman, but ya know thats pretty epic you know My reveals are epic.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412119][B]Murder is unlawful killing. You broke the law technically. [/B] 1 Muslim = all the Muslims. Fame.[/QUOTE] Even through I know you're a troll now this comment still made me :psyduck:

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;25412136]Even through I know you're a troll now this comment still made me :psyduck:[/QUOTE] You broke the law. It is a muslim law. Do not come into a Muslim law if you do not wish to abide to its laws. Tell me what do you gain out of this drawing? What do you gain when you draw this picture?

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25411999]Than they are not Muslims. Muslims are people who Submit to God, and if you want to submit to God you gotta follow God's Law. Should have never started expanding.[/QUOTE] And what about America's laws? Are American Muslims supposed to follow those too?

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412119]Fame.[/QUOTE] I don't know the names of any of those people, in fact most of them remain anonymous so they do not incur the murderous rage of Muslims. Do you know the names of any of those people? Then how are they famous? [editline]14th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mane;25412186]And what about America's laws? Are American Muslims supposed to follow those too?[/QUOTE] Not if it involves guarding Israelis

[QUOTE=Mane;25412186]And what about America's laws? Are American Muslims supposed to follow those too?[/QUOTE] of course. You are suppose to respect the laws it is in the holy book. Unless it something stupid like you must draw a picture or say anti Islamic things. [QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25412188]I don't know the names of any of those people, in fact most of them remain anonymous so they do not incur the murderous rage of Muslims. Do you know the names of any of those people? Then how are they famous? [editline]14th October 2010[/editline] Not if it involves guarding Israelis[/QUOTE] For the lulz?

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412156]You broke the law. It is a muslim law. Do not come into a Muslim law if you do not wish to abide to its laws. Tell me what do you gain out of this drawing? What do you gain when you draw this picture?[/QUOTE] Rights sometimes conflict eg. right to freedom subdued by others right to live in the case of a murder. When this occurs, you have to place it in a hierachy of what is a more important right to decide which one should be subdued. Someone's right to free expression is ALWAYS placed above someone elses right to not be offended. Sometimes it comes to harassment but that is affecting their life instead of a single instance. Sometimes it's threatening in which case it is affecting their right to live a safe life and should be subdued. When it is a case of someone being offended greatly for religious reasons, TOUGH SHIT. It is not an example of it's different in your country, it shouldn't be a law in your country either. It is based from religious tyranny and only serves to keep people in control. Religious rights are not more important than human rights and if anything they should be less important.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25412245]Rights sometimes conflict eg. right to freedom subdued by others right to live in the case of a murder. When this occurs, you have to place it in a hierachy of what is a more important right to decide which one should be subdued. Someone's right to free expression is ALWAYS placed above someone elses right to not be offended. Sometimes it comes to harassment but that is affecting their life instead of a single instance. Sometimes it's threatening in which case it is affecting their right to live a safe life and should be subdued. When it is a case of someone being offended greatly for religious reasons, TOUGH SHIT. It is not an example of it's different in your country, it shouldn't be a law in your country either. It is based from religious tyranny and only serves to keep people in control. Religious rights are not more important than human rights and if anything they should be less important.[/QUOTE] Ok I like to masturbate outside at walmart, but America wont allow me to do that. Where are my freedoms?

Hey guys, its obvious that Yusuf is a troll. He obviously hates Muslims just as much as we do.

[QUOTE=FHamster;25412265]Hey guys, its obvious that Yusuf is a troll. He obviously hates Muslims just as much as we do.[/QUOTE] Ermm no I am a muslim.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412259]Ok I like to masturbate outside at walmart, but America wont allow me to do that. Where are my freedoms?[/QUOTE] That doesn't really count as freedom of expression so it's not really applicable. If you were having a protest that involved jacking off in public then I guess that's ok.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412259]Ok I like to masturbate outside at walmart, but America wont allow me to do that. Where are my freedoms?[/QUOTE] Public indecency, ergo, sexual acts in public ins't a freedom.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25412312]Public indecency, ergo, sexual acts in public ins't a freedom.[/QUOTE] Its freedom. I mean I can't run around I mean what's wrong with it? Why cant I Do it?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;25412312]Public indecency, ergo, sexual acts in public ins't a freedom.[/QUOTE] In some cases it's ok. Remember the topless protest? It counts as freedom of expression/speech so it's ok then. [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7557632/Women-walk-topless-through-US-city-in-protest.html[/url] [editline]15th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Yusuf;25412329]Its freedom. I mean I can't run around I mean what's wrong with it? Why cant I Do it?[/QUOTE] Freedom isn't absolute and all encompassing. Some thing you are freer than other things. Freedom of speech is higher up than freedom to do whatever you want.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25412348]In some cases it's ok. Remember the topless protest? It counts as freedom of expression/speech so it's ok then. [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7557632/Women-walk-topless-through-US-city-in-protest.html[/url] [editline]15th October 2010[/editline] Freedom isn't absolute and all encompassing. Some thing you are freer than other things. Freedom of speech is higher up than freedom to do whatever you want.[/QUOTE] Than its fake. I want to go run around nude but I cant where is my freedom? Why do I have to use a protest? Why where is my freedom? Why can't I make America Communist I mean this is a country of dreams and free speach.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412439]Than its fake. I wan't to go run around nude but I cant where is my freedom? Why do I have to use a protest? Why where is my freedom? Why can't I make America Communist I mean this is a country of dreams and free speach.[/QUOTE] The right to do what you want and others right to not be offended overlap a lot. It's up to the government to decide which act is more important when something is done for amusement. When it comes to free speech and free expression (masturbation is not expression), neither right can trump it. You have to use a protest because then you have a reason for doing something and the government can't just silence you because you are doing something undesirable. It's strange but makes sense. If you were to start a revolution and get enough support for it, you could turn America Communist. No-one's stopping you but damn if it's gonna be hard.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25412505]The right to do what you want and others right to not be offended overlap a lot. It's up to the government to decide which act is more important when something is done for amusement. When it comes to free speech and free expression (masturbation is not expression), neither right can trump it. You have to use a protest because then you have a reason for doing something and the government can't just silence you because you are doing something undesirable. It's strange but makes sense. If you were to start a revolution and get enough support for it, you could turn America Communist. No-one's stopping you but damn if it's gonna be hard.[/QUOTE] Ever seen the video interior semitoics that is art. So I wanna express myself by sticking rotting spagheti o's inside my genitals. At a Walmart. Srsly man we can go both ways. Just don't draw Muhammad in a Muslim state i am not asking for your arm or your leg.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412521]Ever seen the video interior semitoics that is art. So I wanna express myself by sticking rotting spagheti o's inside my genitals. At a Walmart.[/quote] You must really hate Walmart. Well you would need to get Public permission to do it but I have seen stranger forms of art. It's completely permitted dude so there really isn't a conflict here. [quote]Srsly man we can go both ways. Just don't draw Muhammad in a Muslim state i am not asking for your arm or your leg.[/QUOTE] It shouldn't be illegal in a Muslim country either, it is as a principle wrong. Blasphemy in general is retarded. Placing religious things (or anything) in a position of value so they cannot be criticised gives them license to do whatever they want. Everything required criticism in order to be functional and Muhammad is not exempt.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412521]Ever seen the video interior semitoics that is art. So I wanna express myself by sticking rotting spagheti o's inside my genitals. At a Walmart. Srsly man we can go both ways. Just don't draw Muhammad in a Muslim state i am not asking for your arm or your leg.[/QUOTE] Walmart is a private business. In an Islamic country I couldn't even blaspheme in my own home if they Muslims knew about it.

Holocaust Muslim edition.

[QUOTE=firstblood;25413416]Holocaust Muslim edition.[/QUOTE] Coming soon to a city near you.

[QUOTE=cccritical;25410797]and this is when starpluck decides he doesn't have to have factual evidence to be right[/QUOTE] Try reading further into the thread ([URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?1012063-Multicultural-Germany-turning-against-Muslims&p=25335271&viewfull=1#post25335271"]Here's a hint[/URL]) before continuing to make stupid ass comments. Reminds me when you PM'd me begging for a debate about something about Israel. I gave you a reply. Unable to counter it with any logic, you posted it in the labs in a pathetic attempt to "troll" me. Only to get banned.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412232]of course. You are suppose to respect the laws it is in the holy book. Unless it something stupid like you must draw a picture or say anti Islamic things. [/QUOTE] I've always wondered, didn't sharia come always before the regular laws in the eyes of the (really religious) muslims? And I'd feel that I can draw Muhammed, it should be my right to draw what the fuck ever I want.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25412245]Rights sometimes conflict eg. right to freedom subdued by others right to live in the case of a murder. When this occurs, you have to place it in a hierachy of what is a more important right to decide which one should be subdued. Someone's right to free expression is ALWAYS placed above someone elses right to not be offended.[/quote] Try saying N***er in public or to a cameraman of a telivision station and see what happens Mr."freedom of expression."

[QUOTE=Random94;25415367]Try saying N***er in public or to a cameraman of a telivision station and see what happens Mr."freedom of expression."[/QUOTE] Yeah, you still don't understand. There was an episode of South Park in the last few years in which they said, uncensored, niggers. It was partially possible due to censorship laws but they didn't just say it constantly just because they could. It was an expression, it wasn't unrelated or course and it was perfectly allowed. If it is as freedom of expression and not just random idiocy, IT IS ALLOWED.

Turkey has the right idea about Religion, they keep it out of politics (or at least try) Sariah law does not belong in a Democratic state (or any other form of government with multiple religions and cultures) of any-kind, Now if the country has an overwhelming majority of Muslims and it's an Islamic state then Sariah law is perfectly acceptable.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25412119]Murder is unlawful killing. You broke the law technically. 1 Muslim = all the Muslims. Fame. Thanks now it looks like a scandal I am afgman, but ya know thats pretty epic you know My reveals are epic.[/QUOTE] Fame? Are you a fucking idiot, people done that because that was the first shot in a social war, a lot of people are unhappy with Islam being surged into their local areas, fuck there are entire segments of britian that you are advised to avoid because they have effectively became muslim strongholds and the fact that they attract extremists. Fame my ass, people are fucking through with all the complacence.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25415417]Yeah, you still don't understand. There was an episode of South Park in the last few years in which they said, uncensored, niggers. It was partially possible due to censorship laws but they didn't just say it constantly just because they could. It was an expression, it wasn't unrelated or course and it was perfectly allowed. If it is as freedom of expression and not just random idiocy, IT IS ALLOWED.[/QUOTE] I doubt that, because they only said half of the word, ive seen the episode, but if that was possible, explain this. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURRzofbMc0[/url]

[QUOTE=Random94;25415499]I doubt that, because they only said half of the word, ive seen the episode, but if that was possible, explain this. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURRzofbMc0[/url][/QUOTE] You're free to say it until directed at a person dumbass.

[QUOTE=Random94;25415499]I doubt that, because they only said half of the word, ive seen the episode, but if that was possible, explain this. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURRzofbMc0[/url][/QUOTE] Nope. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkmaN7f3gKs[/url] That guy wasn't using it as freedom of speech, he was just being stupid. He offended some people and was mildly punished but he got nothing really. Something you don't understand is the difference between using it with purpose and using it randomly. If you want to say something and need to use offensive language to do it, it's still protected. If you want to say something offensive for no reason, then it's just stupid. The government cannot stop you from saying something if you have a reason for saying it, anything else is subjective. [editline]15th October 2010[/editline] Hell, the news report was allowed to say nigger tons of times because they had a reason for using it. It was used with reason so no-one cares.