Multicultural Germany turning against Muslims - Polidicks

I want to punch Greet really hard in the face whenever I see a picture of him.

[QUOTE=lukepker;25436004]Right, sure whatever.[/QUOTE] Dont believe me? Heres the article Ive got it from. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwaiti_Army#Vehicles[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandur_I#Operators[/url] [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=lukepker;25436004]Right, sure whatever.[/QUOTE] Apparently you think the typical Arab soldier looks like this: [img]http://iraqslogger.powweb.com/images_full_column/77452965_10.jpg[/img] Well guess what? Our troops look this this: [img]http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/lancero2007/dezembro1/20081203174441ENLUS0156730812283262.jpg[/img] Dont mix stereotypes with facts.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436025]Ok then how about this idiot, you support what he is saying? [img_thumb]http://www.topnews.in/files/Geert-Wilders1.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Grown up men who dye their hair look ridiculous.

But still, they wouldn't win. Look at their weapons. Who made them? Europe. If they attack us, well though luck, no more guns for them. Same goes for ammo, tanks, planes, etc. So they will eventually run low on supplies, and lose. Also, we have leopard 2, so they don't even have a chance. /joke

[QUOTE=Scar;25436375]But still, they wouldn't win. Look at their weapons. Who made them? Europe. If they attack us, well though luck, no more guns for them. Same goes for ammo, tanks, planes, etc. So they will eventually run low on supplies, and lose. Also, we have leopard 2, so they don't even have a chance. /joke[/QUOTE] And those guys have all the oil. I don't think any of those fighters/tanks run on air. /joke

[QUOTE=Random94;25435669]Screw you eurofag, we can take over europe anytime and we have the guns, the missles, the planes and the men to do it. Convinced yet? Oh and also we have missiles with the capability of carrying nuclear warheads. [/QUOTE]You seem to have conveniently forgotten where you get those from. Us. We designed them. We manufacture them. We have more of them, and we have actual nuclear warheads. It's nice to feel good about your country, but don't get delusional. Though of course, I ask myself why i'm responding to a blatant troll. Honestly, "eurofag"?

[QUOTE=Scar;25436375]But still, they wouldn't win. Look at their weapons. Who made them? Europe. If they attack us, well though luck, no more guns for them. Same goes for ammo, tanks, planes, etc. So they will eventually run low on supplies, and lose. Also, we have leopard 2, so they don't even have a chance. /joke[/QUOTE] Nope we still have a few vehicles we can manufacture: [img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Egyptian_Armored_personnel_carrier_'Fahd'.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/ALFahad_ACP.jpg[/img_thumb] Also AKMs can be locally manufactured once we lose alot of equipment so we can use these and be supplied with ammo for them, so with that ammo wont be an issue and that could serve as the last line of defense. Also some of the equipment ive shown you guys is american made, and has nothing to do with europe. [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25436402]You seem to have conveniently forgotten where you get those from. Us. We designed them. We manufacture them. We have more of them, and we have actual nuclear warheads. It's nice to feel good about your country, but don't get delusional. Though of course, I ask myself why i'm responding to a blatant troll. Honestly, "eurofag"?[/QUOTE] No im not trolling but he was pissing me off, also Europe didnt manufacture most of what you saw in those pictures.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436025]Ok then how about this idiot, you support what he is saying? [img_thumb]http://www.topnews.in/files/Geert-Wilders1.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." It doesn't matter if I support or agree with him, he's got a right to say it regardless. He's not going to be convicted because of what he says no matter how many people disagree or find it offensive because he's got a right to express his political views just as much as anyone. Throw some more racists out, it doesn't matter. Freedom of speech isn't supressed just because it's controversial.

[quote=Random94]No im not trolling but he was pissing me off, also Europe didnt manufacture most of what you saw in those pictures.[/QUOTE]I say "we" in reference to Western nations. Europe's trade and military ties with the US run deeper than with most countries, especially on account of most European nations being members of NATO.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25436524]"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." It doesn't matter if I support or agree with him, he's got a right to say it regardless. He's not going to be convicted because of what he says no matter how many people disagree or find it offensive because he's got a right to express his political views just as much as anyone. Throw some more racists out, it doesn't matter. Freedom of speech isn't supressed just because it's controversial.[/QUOTE] For a man who calls for a ban on the Qur'an to act as the champion of free speech is a bit rich.

I think you are also forgetting that the Ruskis love killin dem Muslims. Also NATO means that attacking Europe would force the USA to get involved. There is no way in hell that a few Arab countries could take on several world superpowers at the same time so forget your Arab pride, it's impossible.

[QUOTE=starpluck;25436615]For a man who calls for a ban on the Qur'an to act as the champion of free speech is a bit rich.[/QUOTE]Him or Geert?

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25436665]Him or Geert?[/QUOTE] Geert.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25436581]I say "we" in reference to Western nations. Europe's trade and military ties with the US run deeper than with most countries, especially on account of most European nations being members of NATO.[/QUOTE] But i have a feeling that as the European union becomes stronger it will distance itself from the united states.

[QUOTE=aydin690;25436394]And those guys have all the oil. I don't think any of those fighters/tanks run on air. /joke[/QUOTE] We could use electric powered tanks. :downs:

[QUOTE=starpluck;25436615]For a man who calls for a ban on the Qur'an to act as the champion of free speech is a bit rich.[/QUOTE] He's not, he just happens to be covered by free speech just like everyone else. [QUOTE=Random94;25436716]But i have a feeling that as the European union becomes stronger it will distance itself from the united states.[/QUOTE] Not really. They will probably compete economically and exclude the US from a bit of stuff but in reality, they know they are one of their best allies around. They might have their own military (and have had for fucking ages) but that doesn't mean they want to tell the US to fuck off.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436716]But i have a feeling that as the European union becomes stronger it will distance itself from the united states.[/QUOTE]In the sense we become more self-reliant in military equipment and other high-tech stuff e.g. ESA. Trade between us and the US is not likely to evaporate, nor will military co-operation in the aforementioned hypothetical invasion scenario. [QUOTE=starpluck;25436712]Geert.[/QUOTE] Dude's a hypocritical cunt, hiding behind free speech to have a go at Muslims. Not saying he should be censored, but should certainly be exposed to all as a hypocritical bigot.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25436642]I think you are also forgetting that the Ruskis love killin dem Muslims. Also NATO means that attacking Europe would force the USA to get involved. There is no way in hell that a few Arab countries could take on several world superpowers at the same time so forget your Arab pride, it's impossible.[/QUOTE] It isint the pride that is speaking, it's just the fact that when i mean arab countries im talking about this: [img_thumb]http://ambientallyours.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/arab_world_today.jpg[/img_thumb] And because of that we have the manpower and resources to take on europe. Also who said the russians liked killing us? If they did they wouldnt have helped us fight israel in the Yom kippur and 6 day war.

[QUOTE=Scar;25436759]We could use electric powered tanks. :downs:[/QUOTE] Oil isn't exclusive to the middle east you know. There's a fair bit in Saudi Arabia but there's plenty of other places they can get oil. Most countries also have an emergency stash in case something like that does happen. [img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Oil_Reserves.png[/img_thumb]

[QUOTE=Random94;25436777]It isint the pride that is speaking, it's just the fact that when i mean arab countries im talking about this: And because of that we have the manpower and resources to take on europe. Also who said the russians liked killing us? If they did they wouldnt have helped us fight israel in the Yom kippur and 6 day war.[/QUOTE]Arab nations: 358 million Europe: 731 million. Combined with the aforementioned disparity in equipment, lolno. Russia would probably sell Arab nations equipment in that scenario, but realise it'll certainly not be their best stuff; Russia and the US have a tendency to sell only "export models", since one does not want to create an army more powerful than one's own. The PRC, while their military is modernising at a fast pace, isn't as technologically advanced as either the US or Russia, and would probably follow the same export model plan as well.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25436766]He's not, he just happens to be covered by free speech just like everyone else. Not really. They will probably compete economically and exclude the US from a bit of stuff but in reality, they know they are one of their best allies around. They might have their own military (and have had for fucking ages) but that doesn't mean they want to tell the US to fuck off.[/QUOTE] What i meant was that overall cooperation will lessen between them, probabley the US probabley wouldnt send their troops to Europe but they could supply them with weapons and some other military assistance, that's what i meant.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25436766]He's not, he just happens to be covered by free speech just like everyone else. [/QUOTE] Of course he's not a champion of free speech. However, he tries too hard to act as if he is.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436777]It isint the pride that is speaking, it's just the fact that when i mean arab countries im talking about this: And because of that we have the manpower and resources to take on europe. Also who said the russians liked killing us? If they did they wouldnt have helped us fight israel in the Yom kippur and 6 day war.[/QUOTE] Cool Image bro. You own a bunch of third world countries in the north of africa, that isn't really a big deal. But I guess with Somalia and Morocco on your side no-one could take you out. I'm sure you remember how European countries dominated the entire region and colonised your asses, it's not particularly difficult to do it again. It's also invalid having a heap of troops when modern weaponry makes numbers almost irrelevant. Ever hear of Chechnya? Remember back when Russia invaded Afghanistan? They killed a fuckload of people and not a single fuck was given. They might give you weapons because they want the money but if you fuck with them, they will torture and kill every last one of you.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25436782]Oil isn't exclusive to the middle east you know. There's a fair bit in Saudi Arabia but there's plenty of other places they can get oil. Most countries also have an emergency stash in case something like that does happen. [img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Oil_Reserves.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I know that but the fact is that you could cut off weapons, but we will cut off the oil for you to use them, also so the largest oil producers (us) wouldn't give it to you, and also you couldn't rely on the Russians to help because they are unfriendly and more diplomatically allienged with us, so we have allies too, and they are in Europe, so Europe can be defeated also. Also that "emergancy stash" will eventually run out.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25436841]Cool Image bro. You own a bunch of third world countries in the north of africa, that isn't really a big deal. But I guess with Somalia and Morocco on your side no-one could take you out. I'm sure you remember how European countries dominated the entire region and colonised your asses, it's not particularly difficult to do it again. It's also invalid having a heap of troops when modern weaponry makes numbers almost irrelevant. Ever hear of Chechnya? Remember back when Russia invaded Afghanistan? They killed a fuckload of people and not a single fuck was given. They might give you weapons because they want the money but if you fuck with them, they will torture and kill every last one of you.[/QUOTE]I'm sensing a whole lot of racial superiority complex here.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436801]What i meant was that overall cooperation will lessen between them, probabley the US probabley wouldnt send their troops to Europe but they could supply them with weapons and some other military assistance, that's what i meant.[/QUOTE] Because that's what they always do, right? NATO means attack one, attack them all. The US almost has an obligation to asist if not from NATO, from the numerous times they were assisted by them in a coalition. Who's to say they wouldn't [b]want[/b] to go though, they love themselves a war and if it's an actual threat like the scenario you are talking about, there's no way they could resist.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436851]I know that but the fact is that you could cut off weapons, but we will cut off the oil for you to use them, also so the largest oil producers (us) wouldn't give it to you, and also you couldn't rely on the Russians to help because they are unfriendly and more diplomatically allienged with us, so we have allies too, and they are in Europe, so Europe can be defeated also. Also that "emergancy stash" will eventually run out.[/QUOTE]Russia doesn't give a damn who they sell fuel to, and I highly doubt they are more favourable to Arab nations. The only reason they aren't as friendly with Eastern European nations (relations with the West have warmed since the fall) anymore is the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union; they are no longer guaranteed friendliness from bordering nations. I probably also needn't remind you that the vast majority of fuel consumption in Europe is for cars and other personal transportation. In the event of the continent being under threat, fuel rationing would almost certainly be enacted, as it was during the world wars when supplies of fuel were threatened. On top of that, less fuel is very likely needed in a defensive war. As you can probably see, there are numerous nations friendly to Europe on that map with large oil reserves e.g. Canada.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436851]I know that but the fact is that you could cut off weapons, but we will cut off the oil for you to use them, also so the largest oil producers (us) wouldn't give it to you, and also you couldn't rely on the Russians to help because they are unfriendly and more diplomatically allienged with us, so we have allies too, and they are in Europe, so Europe can be defeated also. Also that "emergancy stash" will eventually run out.[/QUOTE] No, they hate you too, they just want to sell weapons and get cash. If you had actually looked at the stash, you would see that there are numerous places to get oil and the graph just shows where the reserves are, not how much is supplied. They could easily keep themselves going until they beat the shit out of you. [QUOTE=starpluck;25436872]I'm sensing a whole lot of racial superiority complex here.[/QUOTE] Honestly it's just realistic. Everyone except this guy understands that they have no chance in a direct fight. If there was someone on here saying that eastern european countries could kick western european countries ass, it would be the same situation.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436777][img_thumb]http://ambientallyours.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/arab_world_today.jpg[/img_thumb] And because of that we have the manpower and resources to take on europe. [/QUOTE] So you have the power of being poor? I did a tour through Africa last year. Never saw a single firearm. Besides, you may have the people to take on Europe, but not the resources nor equipment, and definitively not the food. [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] Besides, Random, you maybe be talking about your countries. They absolutely have no intention of allying, from what I've seen. We are talking about the NATO countries. That means multiple countries, and most of those countries already decided that war against each other is pointless. Fuck with one, fuck with all. Get fucked by one, get fucked by all.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25436841]Cool Image bro. You own a bunch of third world countries in the north of africa, that isn't really a big deal. But I guess with Somalia and Morocco on your side no-one could take you out.[/QUOTE] Actually they are valuable because they have natural resources to offer us (i heard there was coal mining in Somalia, and also lots of metal ore in Morocco) Therefore it will increase industrial output and therefore give us the ability to counter the Europeans. [QUOTE=Devodiere;25436841]I'm sure you remember how European countries dominated the entire region and colonised your asses, it's not particularly difficult to do it again. It's also invalid having a heap of troops when modern weaponry makes numbers almost irrelevant.[/QUOTE] Also i remember how Arabs kicked their asses and got them out (Ever heard of Algeria's independence dumbass or how Egypt protested English rule and forced them out, and kicked them out of the Suez canal in the 60's) [QUOTE=Devodiere;2543684]1Ever hear of Chechnya? Remember back when Russia invaded Afghanistan? They killed a fuckload of people and not a single fuck was given. They might give you weapons because they want the money but if you fuck with them, they will torture and kill every last one of you.[/QUOTE] What they wanted wasn't money, they wanted influence in the Arab world, also yes i know what happened in Chechnya, but even though the Russians took over chechnya they faced massive losses, also in Afghanistan they failed and the mujaheedin won.