Multicultural Germany turning against Muslims - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Random94;25437059]Actually they are valuable because they have natural resources to offer us (i heard there was coal mining in Somalia, and also lots of metal ore in Morocco) Therefore it will increase industrial output and therefore give us the ability to counter the Europeans.[/QUOTE] Riggght, you keep thinking that mate.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437059]Also i remember how Arabs kicked their asses and got them out (Ever heard of Algeria's independence dumbass or how Egypt protested English rule and forced them out, and kicked them out of the Suez canal in the 60's)[/QUOTE] You know why that happened? The countries got bored of the colonies, effectively keeping them with minimal military power.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437059]Actually they are valuable because they have natural resources to offer us (i heard there was coal mining in Somalia, and also lots of metal ore in Morocco) Therefore it will increase industrial output and therefore give us the ability to counter the Europeans. Also i remember how Arabs kicked their asses and got them out (Ever heard of Algeria's independence dumbass or how Egypt protested English rule and forced them out, and kicked them out of the Suez canal in the 60's) What they wanted wasn't money, they wanted influence in the Arab world, also yes i know what happened in Chechnya, but even though the Russians took over chechnya they faced massive losses, also in Afghanistan they failed and the mujaheedin won.[/QUOTE]The differences between conventional and insurgent warfare are blatantly obvious. For example, the swift defeat of the Iraqi Army, compared to the insurgency that followed. Indeed, in the highly unlikely event European armies were defeated and Europe was occupied by Arab nations, you'd quickly find [i]yourselves[/i] fighting an insurgency. Some countries like Sweden pursue their military acquirements with this specifically in mind.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;25437125]You know why that happened? The countries got bored of the colonies, effectively keeping them with minimal military power.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_independence_war[/url]

[QUOTE=Maximo13;25437125]You know why that happened? The countries got bored of the colonies, effectively keeping them with minimal military power.[/QUOTE]The world wars effectively put the nail in the coffin of European imperialism.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25437148]The world wars effectively put the nail in the coffin of European imperialism.[/QUOTE] As Europe needed the troops back at home.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437146][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_independence_war[/url][/QUOTE]Again, not a conventional war. You also fail to take into account French political instability.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437146][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_independence_war[/url][/QUOTE] I can guarantee you that the colonists had less than one eighth of the troops they have at their home country.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;25437169]Again, not a conventional war. You also fail to take into account French political instability.[/QUOTE] They were occupied, how could they have an army? And no, France sent soldiers to fight the rebels obviously.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437220]They were occupied, how could they have an army? And no, France sent soldiers to fight the rebels obviously.[/QUOTE]You do know the difference between conventional and insurgent warfare, don't you?

[QUOTE=Random94;25437220]They were occupied, how could they have an army? And no, France sent soldiers to fight the rebels obviously.[/QUOTE] You know that no country had interest in keeping their colonies, right? It was after World War II, they couldn't afford keeping stuff in Algeria.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437059]Actually they are valuable because they have natural resources to offer us (i heard there was coal mining in Somalia, and also lots of metal ore in Morocco) Therefore it will increase industrial output and therefore give us the ability to counter the Europeans.[/quote] You need to actually have an industry before you can develop one. If you were aware, all of the development is done by western countries taking your resources and giving you a bit of pocket money so you feel special. Unless we had already built the plants, you would have a hard time making use of the resources. [quote]Also i remember how Arabs kicked their asses and got them out (Ever heard of Algeria's independence dumbass or how Egypt protested English rule and forced them out, and kicked them out of the Suez canal in the 60's)[/quote] Yeah, eurpoean countries cbf babysitting your asses anymore and you proved you were too annoying to keep a hold of. If the british really wanted to hold onto that region then they could of sent more troops but then they would have to deal with your shit so they didn't bother. [quote]What they wanted wasn't money, they wanted influence in the Arab world, also yes i know what happened in Chechnya, but even though the Russians took over chechnya they faced massive losses, also in Afghanistan they failed and the mujaheedin won.[/QUOTE] lol, no. Russia is trying to be powerful around europe and they need money for that. They have repeatedly said if push comes to shove, they will take the Wests side. If money comes with free influence, who are they to complain. In the first Chechnyan war, they lost a lot of guys but they killed more than half of the Chechnyan forces. In the Second Chechnyan war, it was even more one sided with the issue being not enough Chechnyans to kill. They aren't pulling out any time soon because they still consider the insurgency there a threat so don't think that their spirits have been dampened. The first part of the Afghanistan war involved Russia destroying everything in sight and killing anywhere from 200,000 to 2 million civilians. Then the US supplied the Mujahadeen with Stingers and they were finally able to do something. Russia gave up because it was becoming too costly to keep up such a war with the country in such poor economic state. The Arabs did shit all really.

[QUOTE=Random94;25436099] Apparently you think the typical Arab soldier looks like this: [img_thumb]http://iraqslogger.powweb.com/images_full_column/77452965_10.jpg[/img_thumb] Well guess what? Our troops look this this: [img_thumb]http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/lancero2007/dezembro1/20081203174441ENLUS0156730812283262.jpg[/img_thumb] Dont mix stereotypes with facts.[/QUOTE] Well guess what? In any eventual war Kuwait would support us, not beforementioned towelheads. Their existence depends on the goodwill of the US. European nations have domestic arms industries that are capable of producing every manner of war machinery you can dream up, their armed forces are superior in discipline and professionalism to anyone but the US and we have the logisticial means to fight far beyond our borders. Remember the Yom Kippur War? Now imagine that against an enemy that is so far beyond you in every measurable way, that is geographically isolated from you instead of surrounded by you and so on and so forth.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437146][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_independence_war[/url][/QUOTE] I know that one. France sent a big army to Algeria to keep down some rebels and blew a shitload of stuff up. They lost the public support because they had killed more people than the rebels to they gave up and left. If they had stayed, they would of just ended up killing a lot more civies. The only real way Algeria won that is that they died the most.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25437289]You need to actually have an industry before you can develop one. If you were aware, all of the development is done by western countries taking your resources and giving you a bit of pocket money so you feel special. Unless we had already built the plants, you would have a hard time making use of the resources.[/QUOTE] We do have industry and manufacturing, and thats why i said they would be valuable resources [QUOTE=Devodiere;25437289]Yeah, eurpoean countries cbf babysitting your asses anymore and you proved you were too annoying to keep a hold of. If the british really wanted to hold onto that region then they could of sent more troops but then they would have to deal with your shit so they didn't bother.[/QUOTE] Not really after all, we did have the thing that is causing some of the deficits over there (Oil) and the fact that cars and oil hungry industries existed at the time meant that the people were too belligerent for them to take hold of the Arab world. [QUOTE=Devodiere;25437289]lol, no. Russia is trying to be powerful around europe and they need money for that. They have repeatedly said if push comes to shove, they will take the Wests side. If money comes with free influence, who are they to complain. In the first Chechnyan war, they lost a lot of guys but they killed more than half of the Chechnyan forces. In the Second Chechnyan war, it was even more one sided with the issue being not enough Chechnyans to kill. They aren't pulling out any time soon because they still consider the insurgency there a threat so don't think that their spirits have been dampened.[/QUOTE] But the terror attacks in Russia is slightly letting them loosen their grip on Chechnya. [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=VintageDinger;25437319]Well guess what? In any eventual war Kuwait would support us, not beforementioned towelheads. Their existence depends on the goodwill of the US. European nations have domestic arms industries that are capable of producing every manner of war machinery you can dream up, their armed forces are superior in discipline and professionalism to anyone but the US and we have the logisticial means to fight far beyond our borders. Remember the Yom Kippur War? Now imagine that against an enemy that is so far beyond you in every measurable way, that is geographically isolated from you instead of surrounded by you and so on and so forth.[/QUOTE] This isnt about Kuwait itself, but the fact that the overall Arab military power you idiot, and by combined industrial capabilities, there can be mass production of arab military equipement, that is what i am saying.

Not every group of Muslim in the world does that. Look at Malaysia, where I live, these things don't happen.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437462]We do have industry and manufacturing, and thats why i said they would be valuable resources[/quote] You have nothing. You require western nations to build everything and it's even western nations who tell you that there is coal or oil in those places. Unless you take over the facilities they built, you have nothing. [quote]Not really after all, we did have the thing that is causing some of the deficits over there (Oil) and the fact that cars and oil hungry industries existed at the time meant that the people were too belligerent for them to take hold of the Arab world.[/quote] The only problem we have with Oil is why do we keep having to kill Arabs to get it. America wasn't hurt by Iraq being stingy with oil, they fucking invaded. We predict that it's not going to last forever and are trying to get off it, there is no issue at all with defecit related to oil. It's also been shown that it's surprisingly easy to take over Arab nations, you guys are just really annoying and no-one wants to govern you except dictators and monarchs. [quote]But the terror attacks in Russia is slightly letting them loosen their grip on Chechnya.[/QUOTE] Not only do I doubt tha validity of that, it's hardly anything to be proud of. They would happily go and kill more of them if they could and just because you are setting off bombs (in your own territory) occassionally, you've done nothing to be proud of. Terrorism and Guerrilla warefare is absurdly easy against someone who isn't a fascist so your biggest achievement is continuing to blow up your own people despite getting killed a lot. [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Random94;25437462]This isnt about Kuwait itself, but the fact that the overall Arab military power you idiot, and by combined industrial capabilities, there can be mass production of arab military equipement, that is what i am saying.[/QUOTE] You seem to forget that a, there are more countries to combine in europe, b, each of those countries have much better manufacturing capabilities and c, Arab military equipment is horrible. You have licensed some stuff from the Russians who can build it better and cheaper than you. Everything else you actually made is utter rubbish and surpassed by european weaponry tenfold.

[QUOTE=Random94;25437462]We do have industry and manufacturing, and thats why i said they would be valuable resources[/quote] Why not use the most powerful nation in the Arab world, Saudi Arabia. "The petroleum sector accounts for roughly 45% of budget revenues, 55% of GDP, and 90% of export earnings. About 40% of GDP comes from the private sector. Roughly five and a half million foreign workers play an important role in the Saudi economy, for example, in the oil and service sectors. [QUOTE=Random94;25437462] This isnt about Kuwait itself, but the fact that the overall Arab military power you idiot, and by combined industrial capabilities, there can be mass production of arab military equipement, that is what i am saying.[/QUOTE] Even IF all of the Arab world united against their biggest source of foreign investment, food and so on and so forth (you would most likely be sold out by half the countries involved to save their own skins and precious money flow) you have to realize that your combined industrial capacity, even if retooled for military purposes, has absolutely nothing on the European armaments industry. You have close to zero advanced technical knowledge regarding these things, which is why you need American and European contractors to run it for you (guess what's gonna happen to them when you go to war against the West?) which is why all you can really produce is old Soviet equipment. Furthermore, if you look at the unemployment numbers in the Arab world you'll see they are skyrocketing, you're already in a demographic trap coupled with massive food shortages as you have no way of dealing with a Western naval blockade. All that political instability. Mmhm.

[QUOTE=Random94;25435669]Screw you eurofag, we can take over europe anytime and we have the guns, the missles, the planes and the men to do it. [/QUOTE] Why haven't you done it then.

[QUOTE=Vasili;25437762]Why haven't you done it then.[/QUOTE] Because he is bluffing. And everyone knows that is not true.

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25413297]Walmart is a private business. In an Islamic country I couldn't even blaspheme in my own home if they Muslims knew about it.[/QUOTE] You've never been to a Muslim country. Matter of fact, can you even name a Muslim country?

I think he's mad because the British Empire owned most of the important areas of his region and turned it into what it is today - a shit hole.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25437844]You've never been to a Muslim country. Matter of fact, can you even name a Muslim country?[/QUOTE] Can you name a country that is not in Africa or Asia that will help Arabic and/or Muslim countries in war? [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Vasili;25437856]I think he's mad because the British Empire owned most of the important areas of his region and turned it into what it is today - a shit hole.[/QUOTE] More like, they drove the British away and made it into a shithole.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;25437875]Can you name a country that is not in Africa or Asia that will help Arabic and/or Muslim countries in war?[/QUOTE] Well Hugo Chavez is butt buddies with Ahmadinejad so Venezuela might. Really though, Venezuela would be like the Falklands only easier.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;25437875]More like, they drove the British away and made it into a shithole.[/QUOTE] The Arabian Peninsula was always a shithole.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;25437875]Can you name a country that is not in Africa or Asia that will help Arabic and/or Muslim countries in war?[/QUOTE]That's got nothing to do with his point, it's clear he's not referring to that debate.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25437908]Well Hugo Chavez is butt buddies with Ahmadinejad so Venezuela might. Really though, Venezuela would be like the Falklands only easier.[/QUOTE] The King of Spain made Chavez shut up once. He might do it again. With a gun.

[QUOTE=Maximo13;25437875]Can you name a country that is not in Africa or Asia that will help Arabic and/or Muslim countries in war?[/quote] Your question makes no sense. [quote]More like, they drove the British away and made it into a shithole.[/QUOTE] lol, oppression and occupation makes countries p. shitty. [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Maximo13;25437939]The King of Spain made Chavez shut up once. He might do it again. With a gun.[/QUOTE] Juan Carlos is useless

[QUOTE=starpluck;25432333]Errr no... The fact you thought I got people to rate you dumb is laughable. You were genuinely being a dumbass by trying to counter a logical argument about the UN and the Jews/Israel by posting a thread about it so you got rated accordingly. [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] "O no I got rated dumb for being a dumbass! Wait I can brush it off by saying it was Starpluck's friends! " Like seriously is that what you actually thought.[/QUOTE] hate to rain on your parade but [list] was implemented already when I posted that hahaha [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Random94;25436099]Dont believe me? Heres the article Ive got it from. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwaiti_Army#Vehicles[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandur_I#Operators[/url] [editline]16th October 2010[/editline] Apparently you think the typical Arab soldier looks like this: [img_thumb]http://iraqslogger.powweb.com/images_full_column/77452965_10.jpg[/img_thumb] Well guess what? Our troops look this this: [img_thumb]http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa277/lancero2007/dezembro1/20081203174441ENLUS0156730812283262.jpg[/img_thumb] Dont mix stereotypes with facts.[/QUOTE] [img]http://gyazo.com/20a53fc66ce82a4e886b158e85144973.png[/img] "what the fuck is this thing why'd they take my stick and rocks away"

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