[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25465773]yeah fuck, i mean we should just put down our guns and surrender right?[/QUOTE]
You missed the point by a mile, brosteak
[QUOTE=starpluck;25465660]Then why use drone strikes? :downs:[/QUOTE]
Assassination of enemy leaders and commanders is not the only method of eliminating them. It is however the one method that causes the most media interest and speculation. If correctly planned and executed, it remains a highly effective action. When these targeted killings disrupt or impact in part on the enemy’s Centre of Gravity they become even more effective.
Using drone attacks removes most of the risk involved for field operatives, it's cost effective and has a higher chance of success than your action movie dreams of sending in lone operatives to assassinate high value targets. Why don't you go ahead and try a snatch and grab on the streets of whereverthefuckistan and you'll have a riot on your hands. And if you'll allow me to elaborate on my last point, I haven't heard of a single drone attack in an urban environment. These things happen on long stretches of dirt road in the middle of nowhere, or if it can't be helped, in some remote village.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25465798]Discouraging the use of drone strikes /=/ putting guns down and surrendering.[/QUOTE]
because we should send in loads of soldiers because who the fuck cares about the families at home and soldiers have android biotech eyes that can instantly tell apart civillian from disguised enemy
youre really smart.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25465870]because we should send in loads of soldiers because who the fuck cares about the families at home and soldiers have android biotech eyes that can instantly tell apart civillian from disguised enemy
youre really smart.[/QUOTE]
"Sending soldiers in" would be more effective and safer then the horribly inaccurate drone strike, XxxKillerXxx^2.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25465870]because we should send in loads of soldiers because who the fuck cares about the families at home and soldiers have android biotech eyes that can instantly tell apart civillian from disguised enemy
youre really smart.[/QUOTE]
So the obvious option is just to fucking bomb civilian centre's and hope it hits the bad guys?
[QUOTE=starpluck;25465949]"Sending soldiers in" would be more effective and safer then the horribly inaccurate drone strike, XxxKillerXxx^2.[/QUOTE]
yeah we saw that in vietnam, it worked amazingly well :)
[QUOTE=starpluck;25465949]"Sending soldiers in" would be more effective and safer then the horribly inaccurate drone strike, XxxKillerXxx^2.[/QUOTE]
Did you read my post at all? I hope you realize this, but American soldiers are not allowed to operate on Pakistani soil. That's why militants hide there in the first place.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25465980]yeah we saw that in vietnam, it worked amazingly well :)[/QUOTE]
Please, shut up and let the adults speak, you're embarrasing our side of the debate with your lack of geostrategic know-how.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25465954]So the obvious option is just to fucking bomb civilian centre's and hope it hits the bad guys?[/QUOTE]
as if you care about civilian casualties as you sit in front of your computer, shoving some doritos in your face, readying up a few tabs of furry porn for tonights wank session and paying lip service to civilian casualties on an internet forum.
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25465867]Assassination of enemy leaders and commanders is not the only method of eliminating them. It is however the one method that causes the most media interest and speculation. If correctly planned and executed, it remains a highly effective action. When these targeted killings disrupt or impact in part on the enemy’s Centre of Gravity they become even more effective.
Using drone attacks removes most of the risk involved for field operatives, it's cost effective and has a higher chance of success than your action movie dreams of sending in lone operatives to assassinate high value targets. Why don't you go ahead and try a snatch and grab on the streets of whereverthefuckistan and you'll have a riot on your hands. And if you'll allow me to elaborate on my last point, I haven't heard of a single drone attack in an urban environment. These things happen on long stretches of dirt road in the middle of nowhere, or if it can't be helped, in some remote village.[/QUOTE]You're getting a bit off topic. Most of this post has nothing to do with what I was arguing about. What is your main point?
[QUOTE=starpluck;25466038]You're getting a bit off topic. Most of this post has nothing to do with what I was arguing about. What is your main point?[/QUOTE]
You asked me, why use drone attacks? "Using drone attacks removes most of the risk involved for field operatives, it's cost effective and has a higher chance of success than your action movie dreams of sending in lone operatives to assassinate high value targets."
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25466003]
lack of geostrategic know-how.[/QUOTE]
Hey nice words you used there. Maybe they'd be more effective next time when they actually make sense in the context.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25466227]Hey nice words you used there. Maybe they'd be more effective next time when they actually make sense in the context.[/QUOTE]
See, if you knew what I was talking about, you'd realize that they do make sense in the context as you wouldn't have to rely on crude logical fallacies to get your point across.
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25466075]You asked me, why use drone attacks? "Using drone attacks removes most of the risk involved for field operatives, it's cost effective and has a higher chance of success than your action movie dreams of sending in lone operatives to assassinate high value targets."[/QUOTE]
Nice closing statement you got there, dick. :) (Referring to Steam)
I'll reply when I return.
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25466300]See, if you knew what I was talking about, you'd realize that they do make sense in the context as you wouldn't have to rely on crude logical fallacies to get your point across.[/QUOTE]
They don't. He was saying illogical things about sending more soldiers in being effective, I cited a historic event 'backing' his marvellous claim, and your 14 year old brain felt the need to become involved with the help of your Urban Dictionary Word of the Day vocabulary for no apparent reason. Bonus points for trying though.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25466387]They don't. He was saying illogical things about sending more soldiers in being effective, I cited a historic event 'backing' his marvellous claim, and your 14 year old brain felt the need to become involved with the help of your Urban Dictionary Word of the Day vocabulary for no apparent reason. Bonus points for trying though.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I get it, you're implying that the situation on the ground in Pakistan is the same as Vietnam back in the day? Brilliant exposition comrade.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25465660]Then why use drone strikes? :downs:[/QUOTE]
To... I don't know, not get our own soldiers killed when something else could easily do the job?
Prove me wrong. Tia.
@ that vintage guy
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
Plus we were generalizing. Why are you involved?
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25466453]Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]
Where to begin? Vietnam was partitioned into two different governments, it wasn't religiously homogenous, the geography is so different it's not even funny, the main conflict wasn't being fought in a neighbouring country and so on and so forth.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25466453]Plus we were generalizing. [/QUOTE]
This is my point.
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25466603]Where to begin? Vietnam was partitioned into two different governments, it wasn't religiously homogenous, the geography is so different it's not even funny, the main conflict wasn't being fought in a neighbouring country and so on and so forth.[/QUOTE]
Nice wikipedia copy paste mate but we're still talking about sending in more troops being efficient (when it clearly isnt) no matter the "geostrategic differences" so I still don't know why you felt spoken to.
[QUOTE=starpluck;25454841]When you depict a picture of an Arab with modern military weaponry then make a racist remark under by saying “What is this?? Where are my sticks stones” [I]is [/I]racist. You were implying that the Arab people are uncivilized backwards cavemen who get confused at the sight at modern weaponry. Yes, it is racist.
[/QUOTE]
I thought it would've been blatantly obvious to anyone bothering to read what I was replying to it was a joke but I guess I should start explaining the pun with spoiler tags so people don't get their vaginas in a twist
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Warhol;25460321]Yusef is arguing in support of moderate Islam[/QUOTE]
so now moderate muslims support murder over pictures and illegal sharia courts?
you're really not helping yourself here
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Warhol;25460393]
Not to mention in the past, you've acted racist as fuck.
[/QUOTE]
where
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25463117]Finally, took you long enough to realize it. Or as a famous writer once said - "Many have imagined republics and principalities which have never been seen or known to exist in reality; for how we live is so far removed from how we ought to live, that he who abandons what is done for what ought to be done, will rather bring about his own ruin than his preservation."[/QUOTE]
I would like to know what you're smoking.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;25466992]I would like to know what you're smoking.[/QUOTE]
For humanities sake, let it be rat poison.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
For his sake, let it be the cure for his aspergers.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25467012]For his sake, let it be the cure for his aspergers.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you mad because you jump into a discussion with absolutely no clue about the subject and now you don't know what to do.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25466671]Nice wikipedia copy paste mate but we're still talking about sending in more troops being efficient (when it clearly isnt) no matter the "geostrategic differences"[/QUOTE]
I know big words can be mighty difficult for you, which is probably why you have to put them in scare quotes, but please bear with me.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25466671]I still don't know why you felt spoken to.[/QUOTE]
Because you're a fucking child who's making our side of the discussion look bad. Now go make a Lady Gaga thread or whatever it is you people do.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;25466992]I would like to know what you're smoking.[/QUOTE]
Camel.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25464867]no innocents died ever
god bless america
fuck people with darker skin then me, vintagedinger
[url]http://rethinkafghanistan.com/blog/2010/03/report-one-in-three-killed-by-drones-in-pakistan-is-a-civilian/[/url][/QUOTE]gb2 reddit
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
btw moslems smell
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25468705]Sounds like you mad because you jump into a discussion with absolutely no clue about the subject and now you don't know what to do.
I know big words can be mighty difficult for you, which is probably why you have to put them in scare quotes, but please bear with me.
Because you're a fucking child who's making our side of the discussion look bad. Now go make a Lady Gaga thread or whatever it is you people do.
Camel.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://imgur.com/Dlhfd.gif[/IMG]
You look so cute when you run out of arguments so you have to resort to using insults.
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25465980]yeah we saw that in vietnam, it worked amazingly well :)[/QUOTE]
So did napalm and Agent orange? OH WAIT LOL
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25466075]You asked me, why use drone attacks? "Using drone attacks removes most of the risk involved for field operatives, it's cost effective and has a higher chance of success than your action movie dreams of sending in lone operatives to assassinate high value targets."[/QUOTE]
And it also kills 1/3 of civilians in its general kill rate. That's reason enough to NOT use them
Although, if the people were white, i'm sure you'd think Drones are horrible devices.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25466446]To... I don't know, not get our own soldiers killed when something else could easily do the job?[/QUOTE]
So a few soldiers lives are so much more important than hundreds of civilians?
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=pognivet;25468853]gb2 reddit
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
btw moslems smell[/QUOTE]
gb2 wearing dresses
VintageDinger
Can you justify the death of one of my friends uncle? Please he worked as a butcher and he went home and he got blown up in a drone attack.
Come on man justify this one human life and than you can justify the 400 more.
Can't we just let this thread die?
[QUOTE=Warhol;25469928]So did napalm and Agent orange? OH WAIT LOL
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
And it also kills 1/3 of civilians in its general kill rate. That's reason enough to NOT use them
Although, if the people were white, i'm sure you'd think Drones are horrible devices.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
So a few soldiers lives are so much more important than hundreds of civilians?
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
gb2 wearing dresses[/QUOTE]
If they had for sure expected to be killing hundreds of civilians then I'm sure they would have sent in soldiers, but as you can assume...these are all accidents, and the people are fault are the people that have terrible judgment and a bad sense of morality and priorities
[QUOTE=XxXKillErXxxX^2;25469533][img_thumb]http://imgur.com/Dlhfd.gif[/img_thumb]
You look so cute when you run out of arguments so you have to resort to using insults.[/QUOTE]
:irony:
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Warhol;25469928]
Although, if the people were white, i'm sure you'd think Drones are horrible devices.
[/QUOTE]
you scream racism until you're hoarse but you haven't got a single bit of [b]actual[/b] evidence ("BUT YOU MADE A JOKE EARLIER! ONLY RACISTS JOKE!" no) to back it up
I'd be fine if you called me an anti-extremist but you seem to think it's the color of their skin and NOT their culture that makes me hate them
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[img]http://gyazo.com/2a8979eb187169aaed91fd2dee48a7ec.png[/img]
PLEASE NO GOD NO
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
