Multicultural Germany turning against Muslims - Polidicks

[QUOTE=johan_sm;25405297]And you either can't read or can't process the information because that's totally not what he said.[/QUOTE] saying "this is not middle-east" kind of implies he's thinking all muslims are from barbaric backwards arab countries. sort of like if i said to a black guy "this is not africa."

I think that immigrants should stay in their country. If some random fucks ran it into the ground, how about they rebuild it instead of coming to Europe?

[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25331673]so apparently 85% of Europe;s population growth was solely from immigration. That's pretty fucking crazy, why can't they just use that as a pretext to push big limits on immigration? [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe[/URL] [/QUOTE] I don't think you realize how much Europe's population is dropping. Immigration is the only thing that will keep many European countries stable, as it's birthrates continue to fall below replacement levels. People just aren't having enough children to keep filling their jobs as they retire, without bringing in workers from foreign countries. Immigration is the only reason the United States is the exception to the declining populations experienced by the rest of the highly developed countries.

[QUOTE=jeimizu;25405528]I don't think you realize how much Europe's population is dropping. Immigration is the only thing that will keep many European countries stable, as it's birthrates continue to fall below replacement levels. People just aren't having enough children to keep filling their jobs as they retire, without bringing in workers from foreign countries. Immigration is the only reason the United States is the exception to the declining populations experienced by the rest of the highly developed countries.[/QUOTE] There are no jobs. Especially not for analphabetic goat herders. [QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;25405206]also way to assume all muslims are filthy arabs from the middle east. you are racist as fuck.[/QUOTE] The muslim immigrants we get are filthy arabs from the middle east, with a few filthy somalis to spice things up.

[QUOTE=VintageDinger;25405614]There are no jobs. Especially not for analphabetic goat herders.[/QUOTE] Fucking this. Maybe if they didn't migrate citizens would actually have a job and would not be forced to either go homeless or leech government welfare.

I'm moving to Germany.

[QUOTE=jeimizu;25405528] Immigration is the only reason the United States is the exception to the declining populations experienced by the rest of the highly developed countries.[/QUOTE] US barely breaks even with a little bit of increase. Population growth is mostly caused by immigration in the US too.

If you want to move to a different country, then you move there and you do what they do. You left yours because it was bad, if you don't like what we think, get out and go home. If we go to the UAE our women have to dress the way theirs do, so why not have them dress as we do? Where the hell do they get off anyways? They move from a country they don't like to ours and then ask us to make our country like their old one? Sorry, thats just wrong, if you love it so much go back.

Muslims are very open to people living in their countries. Just pay Jiyza and don't do anything ant Islamic and the Muslims will protect you with their lives. Like when the Ottomans defended the Christians from the invading Christians from the North.

Deport them to Belgium.

[QUOTE=The golden;25408540]Germany is multicultural, it's the Muslim culture that isn't.[/QUOTE] Explain Jews and Christians living in Ottoman empire with no complaints. Jews and Muslims were best buddies back than, and Muslims will protect them with their lives if they pay jiyza and obey the laws.

I have to admit, the racial group I feel most at threat from..... ....is other British people. I spent a year living in Mile End, where about 53% of the population is white, according to Wikipedia, yet whilst out and about I felt perfectly safe (or at least as you can feel in a large city). And I still do where I live now, Portsmouth. But I've encountered far more problems from other white Britons than any other racial group. Futhermore, economic migrants from outside the EU don't recieve benefits or the like from the government, but still have to pay tax, generating income for the country. I've never quite understood the hostility to imigrants in the UK.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25408606]Explain Jews and Christians living in Ottoman empire with no complaints. Jews and Muslims were best buddies back than, and Muslims will protect them with their lives if they pay jiyza and obey the laws.[/QUOTE] Who gives a fuck about back then? The Ottoman empire don't exist any more and you can't speak for the treatment of all Christians and Jews around the Muslim world. It's hard to say they treated the Jews well though as they moved them all to the Jerusalem area where they mistreated both the Arabs and the Jews.

[QUOTE=The golden;25408688]Maybe that was hundreds of years ago and things have changed? Also: "pay jiyza and obey the laws". They're not exactly obeying Germany's laws right now.[/QUOTE] Ermm ok I guess I can go get up in Germany and run around naked saying I love Violent Pornography at a Elementary school. We Muslims don't obey the laws:) [QUOTE=Devodiere;25408715]Who gives a fuck about back then? The Ottoman empire don't exist any more and you can't speak for the treatment of all Christians and Jews around the Muslim world. It's hard to say they treated the Jews well though as they moved them all to the Jerusalem area where they mistreated both the Arabs and the Jews.[/QUOTE] Poor ones where mistreated by the rich muslims and jews but the ones with wealth not so much.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25408315]Muslims are very open to people living in their countries. Just pay Jiyza and don't do anything ant Islamic and the Muslims will protect you with their lives. Like when the Ottomans defended the Christians from the invading Christians from the North.[/QUOTE] Or talk publicly about your religion ever again. Or testify against Muslims in court. Or get in their way on a sidewalk. Whatever you say 'Yusuf'.

[QUOTE=FHamster;25404483]I herd that somewhere in england muslims actually are allowed to follow muslimlaw over UK. Is this true?[/QUOTE] I know this post is too stupid to reply to, but whatever. Sharia Courts are a form of civil law that doesn't overlap with criminal law/courts in any fashion, unless possibly agreed to by both parties. The same would happen in America if a pseudo-assault offense lead to a lawsuit for emotional and physical damages, instead of an assault conviction. There are only like 30 sharia courts throughout the country, and all they decide are interpersonal conflicts just like any other civil court, except it's done through the lens of the Sharia system. It's not something I really support (it can majorly fuck a kid over in a custody case), but it's not the creeping menace stupid people make it out to be.

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25408778]Or talk publicly about yuor religion ever again. Or testify against Muslims in court. Or get in their way on a sidewalk. Whatever you say 'Yusuf'.[/QUOTE] Ya Obey the laws. * Do not Defame Islam * you can ask questions against Islam but not in a rude manner * You can testify against Muslims in courts? What does a side walk have to do with this?

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25408838]Ya Obey the laws. * Do not Defame Islam * you can ask questions against Islam but not in a rude manner * You can testify against Muslims in courts? What does a side walk have to do with this?[/QUOTE] You're quite right, I apologize, I forgot to mention that if you blaspheme Islam you will be killed.

[QUOTE=Ecarnacion;25408877]You're quite right, I apologize, I forgot to mention that if you blaspheme Islam you will be killed.[/QUOTE] You will be given a Shirah trial. Simple do not do it? I mean honestly your body does not make you say bad things about Islam. If you mean Blaspheme as * Some man draws Muhammad and says he is Ect. Ect. Ect. - guilty. * Some man says good points and asks questions. - Not guilty. If you spill state secrets what happens? If you go around and say lets kill everyone who is American than what will happen? Promoting Communism in America at the political level is also very dangerous :).

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25408767]Ermm ok I guess I can go get up in Germany and run around naked saying I love Violent Pornography at a Elementary school. We Muslims don't obey the laws:)[/quote] Herp derp, not all Turks are doing it but the ones who are shouldn't be allowed to hide behind multiculturalism. If they break the law, they get the same shit as normal germans. If they are pests and hindering the country, they shouldn't be allowed a visa. If germans were doing the same thing in a Muslim country, they wouldn't be tolerated to why should they be here? [quote]Poor ones where mistreated by the rich muslims and jews but the ones with wealth not so much.[/QUOTE] Rich Jews? In my Ottoman empire?

[quote]If they are pests and hindering the country, they shouldn't be allowed a visa. [/quote] Can we also kick out the country-hindering pests who were born here? Or is that only for people of a different color?

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25408948]You will be given a Shirah trial. Simple do not do it? I mean honestly your body does not make you say bad things about Islam. If you mean Blaspheme as * Some man draws Muhammad and says he is Ect. Ect. Ect. - guilty. * Some man says good points and asks questions. - Not guilty. [B] If you spill state secrets what happens? If you go around and say lets kill everyone who is American than what will happen? Promoting Communism in America at the political level is also very dangerous :).[/B][/QUOTE] That's a terrible, disingenuous comparison. Fucking treason or betrayal of state secrets is nowhere on the level of drawing a damn picture and calling it something, and you know that. To compare the two just shows how little you think of actual freedom of speech. And this isn't saying I agree with racist boy over there, just not you either.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25408997]Herp derp, not all Turks are doing it but the ones who are shouldn't be allowed to hide behind multiculturalism. If they break the law, they get the same shit as normal germans. If they are pests and hindering the country, they shouldn't be allowed a visa. If germans were doing the same thing in a Muslim country, they wouldn't be tolerated to why should they be here? What? No if you break an Islamic law you do not get out of jail card for being Muslim. Rich Jews? In my Ottoman empire?[/QUOTE] They where Rich and flourished in Spain and did fairly well in the Ottoman Empire. [QUOTE=Xen Tricks;25409039]That's a terrible, disingenuous comparison. Fucking treason or betrayal of state secrets is nowhere on the level of drawing a damn picture and calling it something, and you know that. To compare the two just shows how little you think of actual freedom of speech. And this isn't saying I agree with racist boy over there, just not you either.[/QUOTE] You are doing an act of treason against an Islamic State. Freedom of speech can only go so far :). Pretty damn Simple DO NOT DRAW THE PICTURE! Honestly Do not smoke the crack Do not stab the Man Do not rape the women It all takes a few hand moments to do all these things. 3/4 of the people who draw Prophet Muhammad PBUH do it for a.) Fame b.) Money Rarely for a display of freedom

Wait, why can freedom of speech only go so far when a cartoon is not hurting anyone?

[QUOTE=Mane;25409138]Wait, why can freedom of speech only go so far when a cartoon is not hurting anyone?[/QUOTE] What? Freedom of Speech can only go so far. I want you to go outside and start preaching anti american and stuff about talking about blowing up the white house and schools.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25408606]Explain Jews and Christians living in Ottoman empire with no complaints. Jews and Muslims were best buddies back than, and Muslims will protect them with their lives if they pay jiyza and obey the laws.[/QUOTE] It was fucking huge. And having the same god but believing in different messias also helps a bit.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25409062]They where Rich and flourished in Spain and did fairly well in the Ottoman Empire. [/quote]Some of them did fairly well everywhere including the Christian world, that doesn't mean they were all treated well. [quote]You are doing an act of treason against an Islamic State. Freedom of speech can only go so far :). Pretty damn Simple DO NOT DRAW THE PICTURE! Honestly Do not smoke the crack Do not stab the Man Do not rape the women It all takes a few hand moments to do all these things.[/QUOTE] Obviously Freedom of speech has to be restricted by other rights but I much prefer placing secular human rights over religious ones. Christians actively put secular values ahead of religous ones, why don't Muslims do the same?

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25409156]What? Freedom of Speech can only go so far. I want you to go outside and start preaching anti american and stuff about talking about blowing up the white house and schools.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand the idea of protected free speech and what falls outside of that. I can say anything I want that is anti-American unless it is directly advocating violence against anyone. Now, tell me who gets their lives threatened by a cartoon? Oh right, no one except for the person who drew the cartoon. And that's only due to Muslim fundamentalists. [quote]Obviously Freedom of speech has to be restricted by other rights but I much prefer placing secular human rights over religious ones. Christians actively put secular values ahead of religous ones, why don't Muslims do the same?[/quote] Perhaps in Europe, but in America, Christians in politics are pretty much insane.

[QUOTE=Yusuf;25409062]They where Rich and flourished in Spain and did fairly well in the Ottoman Empire. You are doing an act of treason against an Islamic State. Freedom of speech can only go so far :). Pretty damn Simple DO NOT DRAW THE PICTURE! Honestly Do not smoke the crack Do not stab the Man Do not rape the women It all takes a few hand moments to do all these things. 3/4 of the people who draw Prophet Muhammad PBUH do it for a.) Fame b.) Money Rarely for a display of freedom[/QUOTE]You are terrifyingly insane. I mean seriously, look at what you just posted, and try and think with the small little bit of rational brain you have left. "Treason against the islamic state" for literally doing this: O->-< This is Mohammad, the Islamic Prophet. If you think a goddamn drawing with a name is anywhere on the level of drug abuse, stabbing, [B][I]rape[/I][/B], you're fucking batshit. And stop using smileys in a sarcastic way. EDIT: Also you have no idea what treason is.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;25409199]Some of them did fairly well everywhere including the Christian world, that doesn't mean they were all treated well. Jews fled to the Muslim Countries to seek refuge from them from the invading Christian armies back than. Obviously Freedom of speech has to be restricted by other rights but I much prefer placing secular human rights over religious ones. Christians actively put secular values ahead of religous ones, why don't Muslims do the same?[/QUOTE] Christians are really complicated and I do not wish to get into a topic about Christians duo to the fear I may offend some people. [QUOTE=Xen Tricks;25409251]You are fucking terrifyingly insane. I mean seriously, look at what you just posted, and try and think with the small little bit of rational brain you have left. "Treason against the islamic state" for literally doing this: O->-< This is Mohammad, the Islamic Prophet. If you think a goddamn drawing with a name is anywhere on the level of drug abuse, stabbing, [B][I]rape[/I][/B], you're fucking batshit. And stop using smileys in a sarcastic way.[/QUOTE] Dude don't draw the damn pictures, and I am pretty sure if you just draw a smiley face with a turban that say Muhammad on it you won't get a trial. Just don't draw the picture and post it up and say Look at me world I drew a picture of Prophet Muhammad. Why in the hell would you gain from this? Only thing you will gain is more people thinking you are a dick. Just don't draw the damn picture. It's like a kid asking his dad why can't he smoke cigars or do crack.