Portal 2 Metacritic User Score Pounded - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mokkan;29344342]I thought it was a good game and that should be all that matters. Why have you all spent 23 pages arguing over little inconsequential items?[/QUOTE] Because they're idiots.

For all the people complaining about how Portal 2 is a really bad game, what did you expect it to be? Did it not meet your expectations? You must have really high ones, then.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29344621]People actually believed it would be released days earlier? Can you imagine the kind of stir that could cause? People were overly optimistic and suffered for it, their own fault for having absurd expectations.[/QUOTE] they expected about a day early. No one expected to get the game sometimes even after the console gamers got theres. They expected it to be a big change were they would be able to play it the day before at around 6 at least.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29344857]they expected about a day early. No one expected to get the game sometimes even after the console gamers got theres. They expected it to be a big change were they would be able to play it the day before at around 6 at least.[/QUOTE] And those expectations weren't met but they still got it a bit early, what's the problem here exactly?

[QUOTE=Gabe Newell;29344624]also timezones [/QUOTE] For a lot the time zones made it worse since and thats why a lot of people got it after the console gamers. If you lived in valve time you would be lucky enough to get it at about 9 and then wait almost an hour for it to decrypt. Do you think anyone would really go through all this if it meant getting it at best 3 hours before midnight?

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29344903]For a lot the time zones made it worse since and thats why a lot of people got it after the console gamers. If you lived in valve time you would be lucky enough to get it at about 9 and then wait almost an hour for it [/quote]you don't make any sense

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29344869]And those expectations weren't met but they still got it a bit early, what's the problem here exactly?[/QUOTE] The problem is that people bought games and spent much time doing stuff that sometimes almost felt like work so they could get a game a day early not 3 hours early. its like saying if you and your friends paint a house you would get a surprise and then getting a nickle or something for your hard work. Im a huge valve fanboy but they really tricked a lot of people and if you cant see that then your a bigger fanboy then me.

[QUOTE=Gabe Newell;29344918]lol decryption doesn't take an hour 20 mins at most also you don't make any sense[/QUOTE] Actually, there were some people who took longer than that to have their game files decrypted. [QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29344903]For a lot the time zones made it worse since and thats why a lot of people got it after the console gamers. If you lived in valve time you would be lucky enough to get it at about 9 and then wait almost an hour for it to decrypt. Do you think anyone would really go through all this if it meant getting it at best 3 hours before midnight?[/QUOTE] So some people got the short end of the stick, can't have it all. [editline]22nd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29344923]The problem is that people bought games and spent much time doing stuff that sometimes almost felt like work so they could get a game a day early not 3 hours early.[/QUOTE] Work that wasn't demanded of you, might I add.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29344923]The problem is that people bought games and spent much time doing stuff that sometimes almost felt like work so they could get a game a day early not 3 hours early. its like saying if you and your friends paint a house you would get a surprise and then getting a nickle or something for your hard work.[/QUOTE] and what's wrong with that

In reality the SP was around 4 hours, however it felt like I was playing for far more than just 4 measly hours. More like 8.

[QUOTE=Gabe Newell;29344918]lol decryption doesn't take an hour 20 mins at most also you don't make any sense[/QUOTE] Mine took an hour, Bengay.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29344937]Work that wasn't demanded of you, might I add.[/QUOTE] Again just because they were not forced does not mean they were not ripped off. They committed no crime but they still hurt there fans. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Amez;29344970]In reality the SP was around 4 hours, however it felt like I was playing for far more than just 4 measly hours. More like 8.[/QUOTE] Then I must be stupid it took longer then that for me.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29344991]Again just because they were not forced does not mean they were not ripped off. They committed no crime but they still hurt there fans. [/QUOTE] If you actually felt hurt because you didn't get Portal 2 released as early as you wanted it to, I think it's safe to say that you need to get outside more.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29345034]If you actually felt hurt because you didn't get Portal 2 released as early as you wanted it to, I think it's safe to say that you need to get outside more.[/QUOTE] If your going to be defending valve this hard then you need to get out more.But really its normal to get angry when you realize you and many others spent hours of your life for nothing.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29345080]If your going to be defending valve this hard then you need to get out more.But really its normal to get angry when you realize you and many others spent hours of your life for nothing.[/QUOTE] Way to completely miss my point.

It's a great game, but the fact that there is a day 1 DLC makes them seem like simple money whores.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29345111]Way to completely miss my point.[/QUOTE] Your point was that I shouldn't be wasting my time getting angry or that you want to take me out on a date. If its the first one then the angrier the fans get the less valve will try to pull stuff like this off if its the 2nd thing then meet me at covina burger in one hour and put on something nice.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;29326409]I cut myself off from gaming until I have a life (as in healthy, preferably outdoors hobbies, and friends, because currently I have no friends and sit in my room literally all day, never leave except to go to classes then come home). For now that means I'm not buying or playing any new PC games, and if I don't have any friends by the end of the semester I'm deleting my Steam account (spent about $400 on it...) so I can't spend the entire summer shuttered in my room staring at a goddamn computer screen. if episode 3 comes out tomorrow, i won't buy it. as i said, long story[/QUOTE] "I'm going to deny myself a hobby I enjoy in order to find myself hobbies I don't enjoy just because most people enjoy those hobbies instead of my hobbies" You realize you can play video games AND have a job/exercise/go out with friends right If you want to play video games on your own time just fucking do it who cares

[QUOTE=Zeke129;29345186]"I'm going to deny myself a hobby I enjoy in order to find myself hobbies I don't enjoy just because most people enjoy those hobbies instead of my hobbies" [/QUOTE] Holy fuck, that was hard to read at first.

[QUOTE=gunpocket;29345127]It's a great game, but the fact that there is a day 1 DLC makes them seem like simple money whores.[/QUOTE] what no

[QUOTE=gunpocket;29345127]It's a great game, but the fact that there is a day 1 DLC makes them seem like simple money whores.[/QUOTE] DLC that was purely cosmetic, that you didnt have to buy, and that has no function on the game whatsoever, mind you.

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;29345255]DLC that was purely cosmetic, that you didnt have to buy, and that has no function on the game whatsoever, mind you.[/QUOTE] Yes but again this is the first time valve has really made you pay for any add on to a game. This could pave way for other money costing dlc instead of it being free like always and because they are spending developer time making things like this which could be used making other games. Also whenever I buy a valve game I came to expect all there dlc to be free so thats a big reason why people buy there games. Its not like the dlc ruined the game or anything but its a small complaint which gives me fear of valves future.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29345327]Yes but again this is the first time valve has really made you pay for any add on to a game. .[/QUOTE] add-on != cosmetic item that doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever

[QUOTE=Gabe Newell;29345351]add-on != cosmetic item that doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever[/QUOTE] At least read the whole post if your going to reply with that.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29345327]Also whenever I buy a valve game I came to expect all there dlc to be free so thats a big reason why people buy there games. Its not like the dlc ruined the game or anything but its a small complaint which gives me fear of valves future.[/QUOTE] There is such a thing as being paranoid, you know. Besides, cosmetic items, no actual use. If you don't care, don't buy them. If you do like them, you buy it, you support Valve.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29345409]There is such a thing as being paranoid, you know. Besides, cosmetic items, no actual use. If you don't care, don't buy them. If you do like them, you buy it, you support Valve.[/QUOTE] Well you know that buying dlc will only ecourage them to make more dlc that costs money. This is why consoles get away with it. Really sure valve is a good company but the fact that pc gamers wont stand for many things is the reason we get so many benefits.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29345504]Well you know that buying dlc will only ecourage them to make more dlc that costs money. This is why consoles get away with it. Really sure valve is a good company but the fact that pc gamers wont stand for many things is the reason we get so many benefits.[/QUOTE] Holy shit you don't get it. Read my latest post, you asking me to read you post doesn't matter because that stems from what I quoted. Addons and maps and gameplay changing elements ARE NOT COSMETIC ITEMS.

I never said they were but if you want to have a circular argument then get a tape recorder and a mirror. edit ok I feel like a prick for posting that so basically its the fear that they will turn other things into Dlc and the fact that everything else they made even cosmetic stuff did not cost money.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29345327]Yes but again this is the first time valve has really made you pay for any add on to a game. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29343671]Sorry for what's coming up, but I need to get this out of my system. Some people who know me in real life will know that I am quite fond of PC gaming. Having grown up on them, I have developed a not entirely unpredictable preference to them. But apparently, said fondness has noticeably gone down, something I've noticed myself as well. In conversations, I find myself reluctant or even embarrassed to say I'm a PC gamer. I've had someone ask me 'what happened, you don't like PC gaming that much anymore'. My response amounted to 'well, with shit like this...' If console gamers are all drooling inbred retards, then PC gamers are all whiny entitled cunts. Let me give some examples. What I despise about a lot of PC gamers is that they seem to think that they have some sort of power over developers, that developers should listen and cater to them because they obviously know everything best. And if they don't listen to you? Well, you'll often hear the phrase 'X has sold out to the console tards' or 'What happened to you X? You used to be good'. A good, if slightly excessive example of this is the World of Warcraft community, particularly as of late. For instance, I more often than not hear WoW players whine about how WoW was at its best during the Burning Crusade expansion and how the game is now casualized to shit and how Blizzard are a bunch of money hungry whores and all that nice stuff. Now I can already hear you say 'Whoopsalot, you tit, that's nothing new, there's always people whining about how everything was better in the earlier days'. Well yes, I know but the WoW community takes a special award and here's why: A while ago, it was announced that the next patch will be having 2 old dungeons return with the same bosses but with new loot you can get. Hell, if at least one of your party members has a high enough level in a profession introduced in Cataclysm, you can get another one out of 4 random bosses which drop unique loot. Sounds good, right? Fun dungeons return with new stuff. Well, no apparently. I wouldn't advise you to go to the forums (unless you have an urge to get some serious headache) but most, if not all of the replies, can be summed up with the following phrase: 'WoW sucks now and Blizzard has ruined it. They're just trying to keep the tards happy with old content instead of listening to us'. Yet these people still have their subscriptions fully going and they're still playing. No guys, totally not hypocritical! That's another thing I hate about a good amount of PC gamers. They sometimes are the biggest hypocrites you'll see. The Portal 2 debacle is a good, nay, excellent example. People bitch at the Wii, Kinect and Move for being gimmicky bullshit, yet they get their panties in several bunches because they don't get hats for free, hats being probably the second biggest gimmick of this gaming generation. Honestly, when you're complaining about something as stupendously trivial as hats or any purchasable items that are 100% cosmetic and provide no gameplay benefits whatsoever, that's a sign you need to rethink your priorities. Not to mention the almost astounding elitism that takes place at times, such as here. While I haven't seen it myself, people are apparently popping arteries over a message that tells you 'not to turn off your console', immediately branding Portal 2 as a console port, with the same tone of voice they'd saw 'raw sewage'. First off, what's so bad about a console port at the very core? Does it automatically bring horrendous features? Does it mean the gameplay is dumbed down? It doesn't mean shit, except maybe lesser graphics (you know, for a group that's so fast to shout 'gameplay over graphics', these guys sure get wound up about console graphics being ported to PC, still not hypocritical), big whoop, nothing to go out and murder people over. And what do you know, I can flow into another point again! Something that's happening on all platforms, but PC most prevalently is the complete and utter lack of a middle ground or grey area if you will. Go visit some sites that allow user reviews. Go to IGN, Gamespot, Metacritic, I don't care which. Now pick any random game you've played. Found one? Okay, question here. Roughly how many of the user reviews for said game are neutral (for consistency's sake, let's consider 5.5-6 neutral)? Chances are your answer is 'not a whole bloody lot'. There seems to be no such thing as having a neutral-ish opinion on a game, either it's like a hot model who wants steamy sex with you all night and she doesn't have STD's or it's a complete and utter pile of shit and/or a great example of why PC gaming is dying/going down the shitter/insert insult of choice. Don't bother going asking for an advice on whether to buy it or not, the results you'll get or so stupidly inconclusive you might as well not bother. This next point is somewhat related to my previous one and also my first one, but it's an issue I consider far more infuriating. It's called entitlement. Somebody on FP once said 'it must suck being a current gen games developer, especially when you're making a sequel. Either you stay fateful to the original and get scalded because you're pumping out an easy sequel because you're a bunch of assholes who just want money or you try to move things forward and again get scalded, only this time for raping their beloved franchise to appeal to the legions of twats that are console players.' While this doesn't apply to all PC gamers (then again, what point so far does apply to all PC gamers?), there are a good amount of severely entitled PC gamers who have an attitude that can be summed up in 5 words, 'my way or the highway'. Most of these seem to be stuck in the old days, since frequent complaints are how the devs are milking the game with DLC rather than bringing out expansion packs with 'actual content like they did in the 90s', 'casualizing the game to appeal to the tards out there' (again, saying 'casualizing' like they would say 'raw sewage', you guys do know you're not better than everyone else, right?) or whatever other complaint they seem to like to throw around. You might argue this could be fused with the whiny argument but there's a difference here. The whiny gamer wants the developer to listen to him and only. The entitled gamer feels that his favorite game series or developer is almost rightfully his and thus only HE is allowed to make changes to the formula. If it doesn't cater to his very VERY specific tastes, the developer has sold out, the game series is now 'ruined forever' (a term which is about as dumb as you can get it) and it's another step to the edge for PC gaming and by god does he want everyone to know! Because if you like it now, you obviously have absolutely 0 taste and are part of the cancer that is killing PC gaming! You might say 'Holy jesus Whoopsalot, close the whine valve already'. I say fuck you, I've had enough. I'm sick and tired of PC gamers that say their platform is the best without joking. I'm sick and tired of the disgusting condescending attitudes so many PC gamers have to consoles and the people who play them. I'm sick and tired of that group of people who, if they had their way, would have game series stagnate because they seem to be like the Japanese and can't bear changes to their precious game series. But most of all, I'm sick and tired of a pathetic excuse for a community that claims to be so mature but is so quick to remind me of a fucking kindergarten, having some of the saddest, whiniest and juvenile pricks I've ever seen. Keep going guys, bitch and whine the way you're doing now! Continue demanding that developers conform to your sometimes ridiculous standards. But don't complain to us when developers leave the PC en masse in favor of an audience that's easier to please. You can complain to yourselves for a change.[/QUOTE] My good sir...I know that feel bro. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=imasillypiggy;29345327]Yes but again this is the first time valve has really made you pay for any add on to a game. This could pave way for other money costing dlc instead of it being free like always and because they are spending developer time making things like this which could be used making other games. Also whenever I buy a valve game I came to expect all there dlc to be free so thats a big reason why people buy there games. Its not like the dlc ruined the game or anything but its a small complaint which gives me fear of valves future.[/QUOTE] So a slippery slope scenario?