‘Machinery of Death’: Gas chamber may be revived in Missouri

[Skarphedinn]

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;41336909]Are you sure about that? How much does a length of rope cost, and how many times can it be reused?[/QUOTE]

He said fastest.

When you hang someone, there is generally a good chance they don't die instantly, most of the time they just sit there and dangle intill they suffocate.

[ayejayjay]

maybe we should (and don't mind me this is a crazy idea)...

get rid of the death penalty because it's cruel and barbaric

[Flapadar]

I think a much nicer method would be finding a nice high cliff, and making them go off the edge.

If they somehow survive, they get another chance to not fuck up.

[editline]6th July 2013[/editline]

And hey, how many times can you re-use a cliff.

[No_Excuses]

[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;41337743]maybe we should (and don't mind me this is a crazy idea)...

get rid of the death penalty because it's cruel and barbaric[/QUOTE]
Because god forbid we be cruel to those on death row that have been absolutely proven of their crimes.

[Rangergxi]

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41337928]Because god forbid we be cruel to those on death row that have been absolutely proven of their crimes.[/QUOTE]

Plenty of people on Death row have been found to be innocent when near their execution date.

[Conely]

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41337928]Because god forbid we be cruel to those on death row that have been absolutely proven of their crimes.[/QUOTE]

but what do you get out of this other than satisfaction? the justice system needs to always be pragmatic and objective, and i don't see how what you're saying is in any way either of those things - i don't really care about your freaky sense of morals, and nobody who's supposed to carry out the law should either.

[No_Excuses]

[QUOTE=Cone;41338034]but what do you get out of this other than satisfaction? the justice system needs to always be pragmatic and objective, and i don't see how what you're saying is in any way either of those things - i don't really care about your freaky sense of morals, and nobody who's supposed to carry out the law should either.[/QUOTE]
Mass shooter gets shot and killed by stranger, stranger considered a hero.

Mass shooter lives and ends up on death row and now stranger is considered morally deranged for supporting death penalty.

Is that correct?

[Hellduck]

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41338254]Mass shooter gets shot and killed by stranger, stranger considered a hero.

Mass shooter lives and ends up on death row and now stranger is considered morally deranged for supporting death penalty.[/QUOTE]

because the killer has already been stopped from killing if he's been put on death row. unless they someone managed to herd him into an execution cell whilst he was still killing people

[Ban Evasion Alt]

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41337928]Because god forbid we be cruel to those on death row that have been absolutely proven of their crimes.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, like all these guys!

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates#United_States[/url]

[evilweazel]

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41338254]Mass shooter gets shot and killed by stranger, stranger considered a hero.

Mass shooter lives and ends up on death row and now stranger is considered morally deranged for supporting death penalty.

Is that correct?[/QUOTE]

Oh come on, I'm personally pretty torn when it comes to capital punishment and even I can see the flaw in what you said.

[Conely]

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41338254]Mass shooter gets shot and killed by stranger, stranger considered a hero.

Mass shooter lives and ends up on death row and now stranger is considered morally deranged for supporting death penalty.

Is that correct?[/QUOTE]

if the shooter gets killed then it's for a court of law to decide whether it was justified or not, not a bunch of people calling the stranger a hero for the ages or whatever.

and yeah, i would say that anyone who supports the death penalty is at the least ignorant, if not immoral - if anything, the stranger would be more biased towards being irrational because of how heavily involved with the case they are. you just can't have someone like that in a system that's supposed to be reasoned, just, and factual.

[editline]6th July[/editline]

also yeah there's pretty much no point to killing a dude who's already in jail unless he's like smuggled in an M60 up his ass or something. you can't appeal to emotion when i'm specifically telling you that emotion is 100% irrelevant

[LoganIsAwesome]

[QUOTE=Charchar;41335560]Firing Squad is the best, it's the cheapest and fastest method.[/QUOTE]
Bringing someone in to the backroom, telling them to get on their knees, then shooting them in the back of the head, is the cheapest and fastest type of execution.

[editline]6th July 2013[/editline]

I thought you lost consciousness the first 3 seconds of the gas chamber? Then you're practically dead?

[Charchar]

[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;41339353]Bringing someone in to the backroom, telling them to get on their knees, then shooting them in the back of the head, is the cheapest and fastest type of execution.

[editline]6th July 2013[/editline]

I thought you lost consciousness the first 3 seconds of the gas chamber? Then you're practically dead?[/QUOTE]

I don't see anything wrong with that either.

[Hellduck]

[QUOTE=Charchar;41339394]I don't see anything wrong with that either.[/QUOTE]

because its not an effective deterrent, leaves no opportunity for reform, and has no allowance for miscarriages of justice

[editline]7th July 2013[/editline]

and speaking specifically about the back-room method: the only sort person that would volunteer to carry that out would be the sort of person you wouldnt want to let have a weapon anyway

[Bazsil]

[QUOTE=xxMarathonxx;41337499]it should only be for people are PROVEN guilty and not be wrongfully executed.[/QUOTE]

As opposed to what? Those who were proven innocent?

"Proven" means nothing.

[zukriuchen]

may i ask, why is facepunch against death penalty? surely many people would find it better to die than to live their whole lives in a cell?

[LoganIsAwesome]

[QUOTE=Hellduck;41339405]because its not an effective deterrent, leaves no opportunity for reform, and has no allowance for miscarriages of justice

[editline]7th July 2013[/editline]

and speaking specifically about the back-room method: the only sort person that would volunteer to carry that out would be the sort of person you wouldnt want to let have a weapon anyway[/QUOTE]

Well now I feel like a dumbass.
I agree with you on that, too.

[Desuh]

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41339522]may i ask, why is facepunch against death penalty? surely many people would find it better to die than to live their whole lives in a cell?[/QUOTE]

The death penatly doesn't give one a choice.

[Rangergxi]

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41337951]Plenty of people on Death row have been found to be innocent when near their execution date.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ban Evasion Alt;41338358]Yeah, like all these guys!
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates#United_States[/url][/QUOTE]

Even worse.
Plenty of people have been found to be innocent after being executed.

[Bat-shit]

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;41336889]The useful thing about a firing squad is you don't have to give one guy the responsibility of killing someone. With beheading you have to find a person willing to take another's life and live with it. For a firing squad you just have to hire 4-5 guys and tell them all they're going to have blanks and it's the man next to them who has the real bullet. That way they don't even know who actually did the execution, less guilt. Also a lot less blood flying everywhere.[/QUOTE]

It's not any less guilt really when they all sign up for executing a prisoner in the first place anyway, knowingly so.

Also are you absolutely sure firing a real shot is indistinguishable from firing a blank? Because I'm suspecting that you can feel the real round when you shoot it, and then you would keep it to yourself, as in "living" with it, like you said.
Or maybe it's all like "Let's do it and be done with it" without really caring who fired the real round.

But ye, I would say firing squad is one of the few execution methods that are the most humane, maybe even more so than beheading. But anything past that, like flaying and burning.. a huge nope, even if the criminal was convicted of doing something like that.

[Whiterfire]

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;41335561]Get rid of the death penalty you assholes[/QUOTE]

I am against the death penalty because it takes fucking forever and the legal fees from appeals cost us taxpayers millions its cheaper to just locm em up forever

[FunnyStarRunner]

I kept telling myself I lived in a fucking backwater state, and now I have all the evidence I need.

[KarloMcMarlo]

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41337226]Yeah, won't someone think of the poor kidnappers, murderers and rapists...[/QUOTE]

I'd much rather have someone rotting in prison for the rest of their life, THINKING about what they've done and regretting it, rather than just "getting off" and dying quickly.

Atleast, insofar as people who have done really horrible things, such as molestation and serial murderers, it's my opinion that they shouldn't even get the release of death. As far as I'm concerned, they should be forced to forever live with the things they've done. :v:

[danelo]

It's fast and efficient, I don't see what the problem is.

[Dori]

[QUOTE=Whiterfire;41340881]I am against the death penalty because it takes fucking forever and the legal fees from appeals cost us taxpayers millions its cheaper to just locm em up forever[/QUOTE]

you should be against the death penalty because of governments asserting that they own the lives of their citizens

[editline]6th July 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=KarloMcMarlo;41340938]I'd much rather have someone rotting in prison for the rest of their life, THINKING about what they've done and regretting it, rather than just "getting off" and dying quickly.
[/QUOTE]

life sentences are more inhumane and pointless than the death penalty

[zukriuchen]

but a lot of people say that prison only makes matters worse in many cases. if instead of having a death penalty or life sentences they just put people in for longer periods of time, I'm sure that wouldn't be helpful either. so, should the top priority be coming up with a better system or what?

[amute]

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;41337026]
Gas chamber could be fine, knock them out peacefully, and then fill it with lethal gas.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't work like that kiddo

[editline]6th July 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=danelo;41340975]It's fast and efficient, I don't see what the problem is.[/QUOTE]

I mean it's only the methodical killing of another human being, what's the big deal?

[Dori]

[QUOTE=amute;41341092]Doesn't work like that kiddo[/QUOTE]

it's extremely painful and slow. there's a lot of drooling and convulsing

[amute]

[QUOTE=Whiterfire;41340881]I am against the death penalty because it takes fucking forever and the legal fees from appeals cost us taxpayers millions its cheaper to just locm em up forever[/QUOTE]

You should be against it because you don't live in 1750 BC

[fruxodaily]

It's inhumane and I think if it was brought back people on deathrow would fight this on the high court

You have to suffer for a good while and you could be in complete fucking pain

And the death penalty it useless anyway, its not even a deterrence people will continue being bad like it or not

[editline]7th July 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41339522]may i ask, why is facepunch against death penalty? surely many people would find it better to die than to live their whole lives in a cell?[/QUOTE]

It's barbaric and stupid, it solves nothing and only causes more grief, sure people will say its good revenge but is it really?