• Donald Trump elected President of the United States - Deal with it, lmao
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[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51341878]You don't see the irony in being in favour of personal freedom... but apparently not when it comes to sex?[/QUOTE] You have the freedom to be irresponsible, and you should be willing to accept the consequences.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51341873]It does work in general but the fact is it'll still fail 4% of the time even if you pull out before complete ejaculation, or if the pre-ejaculate still had viable sperm in it. That's what I'm trying to make wystan understand that no method is 100% foolproof except for depot injections and tubectomy[/QUOTE] So what options would that 4% have if they miss the morning after pill then?
[QUOTE=wystan;51341858]You could use a combination of the two, redundancies aren't bad. Seriously, if you're using a condom and she's on the pill the chances of a pregnancy are next to nothing.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but Pence campaigned against condoms. Be responsible for your own actions and you know, make policy decisions that work together as a whole
[QUOTE=Killer monkey;51341884]Why are people honestly replaying to this bait?[/QUOTE] Is it really bait when wystan is a 100%? This is a guy who's in favour of torture, I don't think he's trolling on this either, as it's comparatively [I]very[/I] tame.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341831]How does one fail to pull out?[/QUOTE] Clearly you've never had sex
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51341894]So what options would that 4% have if they miss the morning after pill then?[/QUOTE] mifepristone with or without misoprostol, preferably under the guidance of a trained physician qualified to perform abortions
[QUOTE=wystan;51341871]What about the human life their ending?[/QUOTE] What if that human life is going to end anyway? What if that human life is going to take the life of the mother? Why is the life of an unborn baby worth more than the life of someone else? Is there a priority system? Why do conservatives then turn around and say "Well the baby's born, time to stop helping the mother and the family entirely and blame them for not being able to afford anything!" Where does it end? Why is everything someone else's fault? Why do conservatives tote that they are pro-life and then continue to strip away basic human rights for people? Why do they want to defund Planned Parenthood that continues to educate people on pregnancy prevention techniques and help people afford proper contraception? What is the end game? What is the actual purpose?
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51341883]An early fetus has more in common with a cancerous growth then a human being.[/QUOTE] Doesn't make it not a human, even at it's earliest stage.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341846]Urinate prior, clean the pipes. Not pulling out in time is a failure of self control and responsibility. This can all be avoided.[/QUOTE] Hahaha
Just like Brexit, our young voters were in overwhelming agreement: [img]http://i.imgur.com/DOblBQr.png[/img]
[QUOTE=wystan;51341831]How does one fail to pull out?[/QUOTE] this explains a lot, thx
[QUOTE=wystan;51341892]You have the freedom to be irresponsible, and you should be willing to accept the consequences.[/QUOTE] Imagine if someone arbitrarily decided to make airbags illegal. You're arbitrarily increasing the risk of the consequences they should be willing to accept.
This is why trump wants the wall [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY[/media] what a fucking affront to rational thought
[QUOTE=wystan;51341892]You have the freedom to be irresponsible, and you should be willing to accept the consequences.[/QUOTE] So if the government you elect makes that harder and their freedoms are impinged then how are you for small government
[QUOTE=Kylel999;51341898]Clearly you've never had sex[/QUOTE] What? It's worked fine for me pal, I don't see what you're getting at.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341892]You have the freedom to be irresponsible, and you should be willing to accept the consequences.[/QUOTE] Yes, lets subject countless people to being born into families that don't want them and/or can't support them. I'm sure that'll go super well for everybody and won't result in any negative repercussions.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341892]You have the freedom to be irresponsible, and you should be willing to accept the consequences.[/QUOTE] Pulling out, which you've suggested as a method of avoiding pregnancy, bas a 4% failure rate as Zonesylvania has outlined above. That means that if you fuck your girlfriend 2 or 3 times a week shes likely to become pregnant within a year. Sex ed and common sense have failed you.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341908]Doesn't make it not a human, even at it's earliest stage.[/QUOTE] hello an embryo is a potential human, and so is a fetus the life argument only works when it starts showing actual brain activity so dont push the envelope
[QUOTE=wystan;51341908]Doesn't make it not a human, even at it's earliest stage.[/QUOTE] What stage is that? Zygote? Morula? Blastocyst?
[QUOTE=wystan;51341920]What? It's worked fine for me pal, I don't see what you're getting at.[/QUOTE] If you'd had swx before you'd know there can be difficulties in that
[QUOTE=wystan;51341920]What? It's worked fine for me pal, I don't see what you're getting at.[/QUOTE] it's almost like anecdotal evidence is unacceptable in the medical field without actual evidence
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51341915]Imagine if someone arbitrarily decided to make airbags illegal. You're arbitrarily increasing the risk of the consequences they should be willing to accept.[/QUOTE] I think using seatbelt would be more apt, since depending where you go, it is illegal to not wear one, and some people had a real problem with it.
Hey wystan, does life begin at conception to you
[QUOTE=wystan;51341920]What? It's worked fine for me pal, I don't see what you're getting at.[/QUOTE] What if I don't want to pull out Also, typical "doesn't affect me so its not a problem :smug:" attitude, would expect nothing less.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341871]What about the human life their ending?[/QUOTE] Hey nerdburgler, there's a thing called MORAL STATUS that ethicists use to measure how many degrees of personhood a type of life has. Fetuses and embryos, while human life, still are not equivalent to a child or grown person because they cannot feel pain and die outside their parent's womb. Since this human life has less moral status than the parent, the parent is fully within their rights to be against being a host to an organism they don't want within their body, and can seek out abortion should they wish to
[QUOTE=wystan;51341908]Doesn't make it not a human, even at it's earliest stage.[/QUOTE] How so? What human traits apply to it? Should copper IUDs that work partly by preventing implementation of the embryo into the endometrium be illegal? Should pregnant women, unaware of their pregnancy, be charged with involuntary manslaughter because they played football and happened to force the abortion that way?
[QUOTE=1legmidget;51341926]What stage is that? Zygote? Morula? Blastocyst?[/QUOTE] Better not cum ever, guys. Every single one of those sperms that fails to fertilise an egg is [I][B]A HUMAN LIFE YOU MONSTER!!!!!!!!![/B][/I] I mean, at this point, we're all mass murderers on par with Hitler, right? I know I must be.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341908]Doesn't make it not a human, even at it's earliest stage.[/QUOTE] It also doesn't give you any leeway to tell a woman what to do with her fucking body lol Up until something like 12 weeks a fetus doesn't even have a nervous system. Its literally just a parasitic ball of human cells. Stop acting like a baby is a punishment for sex because it's not
[QUOTE=wystan;51341892]You have the freedom to be irresponsible, and you should be willing to accept the consequences.[/QUOTE] You wanted Trump in. Your responsible for an anti-condom anti-abortion and anti-sex education America But you're never going to be willing to accept the consequences.
[QUOTE=wystan;51341930]I think using seatbelt would be more apt, since depending where you go, it is illegal to not wear one, and some people had a real problem with it.[/QUOTE] Then they shouldnt complain when they get flung through the windshield in an RTA because it was their own fault they refused to use safety measures.
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