• Donald Trump elected President of the United States - Deal with it, lmao
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[QUOTE=Duck M.;51342089]People are going to call you out for "overreacting" and "fearmongering" but you're giving a completely realistic scenario I mean for fucks sake its been less than 12 hours and they've already promised to disenfranchise millions of people [IMG]https://68.media.tumblr.com/2eaa3832b589ea7bd23b0641a6491d23/tumblr_inline_ogdaewScN41r57afa_540.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] His running mate relaying the words of Trump himself is just the rigged media.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;51342089]People are going to call you out for "overreacting" and "fearmongering" but you're giving a completely realistic scenario I mean for fucks sake its been less than 12 hours and they've already promised to disenfranchise millions of people [IMG]https://68.media.tumblr.com/2eaa3832b589ea7bd23b0641a6491d23/tumblr_inline_ogdaewScN41r57afa_540.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] And so the jenga brick is removed and the whole tower starts to crumble. I honestly, sincerely pity all of you poor souls who are stuck in America right now.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51342096]His running mate relaying the words of Trump himself is just the rigged media.[/QUOTE] Even in death CROOKED SHILLARY continues to manipulate the media from the shadows... lock her up
remember: cut down, not across. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Shitpost, ran out of chances" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=J!NX;51341991]Or what if the mother was raped?[/QUOTE] I want to see your answer to this. You can't just stand by something and then ignore the good questions people ask you. What if she's raped and gets pregnant from it? [sp]Or was she just asking for it? According to your vision of shit[/sp]
[QUOTE=Duck M.;51342098]Even in death CROOKED SHILLARY continues to manipulate the media from the shadows... lock her up[/QUOTE] I bet it was all obongo's fault - four years later after dolan trump leaves america more broke than India
I'm seeing the same whinning on the U.S. that I saw here when Dilma was impeached. "Not my president!", "He doesn't represent me!". You didn't elect a Supreme Leader, there's no genocide and no facism comming, calm down.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51342085]Eclampsia and Preeclampsia Ectopic Pregnancy Failed labor[/QUOTE] And how many of these must be treated by aborting the baby?
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;51342110]I'm seeing the same whinning on the U.S. that I saw here when Dilma was impeached. "Not my president!", "He doesn't represent me!". You didn't elect a Supreme Leader, there's no genocide and no facism comming, calm down.[/QUOTE] No but social progress was set back by two decades thats totally not concerning
the fires of greed will burn the weak, so we'll make freedom obsolete.
[QUOTE=Bugga12;51342105]I want to see your answer to this. You can't just stand by something and then ignore the good questions people ask you. What if she's raped and gets pregnant from it? [sp]Or was she just asking for it? According to your vision of shit[/sp][/QUOTE] Clearly she was just being irresponsible and should deal with the consequence of her actions. Right, wystan?
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;51342110]I'm seeing the same whinning on the U.S. that I saw here when Dilma was impeached. "Not my president!", "He doesn't represent me!". You didn't elect a Supreme Leader, there's no genocide and no facism comming, calm down.[/QUOTE] No genocide but promising to forcibly strip all of my rights away from me is really only one or two steps below that And considering his party (see: likeminded individuals) are in complete control of the government and the courts theyre pretty likely to follow through
[QUOTE=Duck M.;51342092]It is really that fucking bad Congress is on his side. They can do whatever they want[/QUOTE] I read somewhere that Republicans don't even like Trump?
[QUOTE=Bugga12;51342105]I want to see your answer to this. You can't just stand by something and then ignore the good questions people ask you. What if she's raped and gets pregnant from it? [sp]Or was she just asking for it? According to your vision of shit[/sp][/QUOTE] Jumping straight to these sort of shock hypotheticals and cancer comparisons really doesn't help much. The fact of the matter is most zygotes never implant, and plenty of 'human lives' never make it past later stages of development. The chances go up as you make it past each benchmark, but early on things are far less certain. Human life from a numbers game as defined by people like wystan ends up being far, far less special than we would like to believe.
[QUOTE=Richoxen;51342065]So does my fucking jizz in the toilet.[/QUOTE] That's the point, dude. Jizz is a bunch of cells. Eggs are a cells. A zygote is also just a cell, but apparently now it's a person because... I don't know.
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;51341348]I don't care what the constitution says, guns are not more important than equal rights.[/QUOTE] You give the Constitution too little credit. The Constitution was what protected equal rights and still is now.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;51342110]I'm seeing the same whinning on the U.S. that I saw here when Dilma was impeached. "Not my president!", "He doesn't represent me!". You didn't elect a Supreme Leader, there's no genocide and no facism comming, calm down.[/QUOTE] This "there's no genocide!" argument seems pretty popular this morning. You realize that he can do incredible damage to our country without lining people up and shooting them, right? Legislating the persecution and marginalization of minority groups doesn't have to have violence as its vehicle in order to be fucking horrifying.
[QUOTE=Bucketboy;51342133]I read somewhere that Republicans don't even like Trump?[/QUOTE] There are definitely a lot that dont but dont get it twisted, Republicans will absolutely vote in favor for legislation that benefits them and their agenda and Trump falls in line with a lot of that agenda, including LGBT disenfranchisement and the complete and total disregard for environmental policy
[QUOTE=wystan;51342111]And how many of these must be treated by aborting the baby?[/QUOTE] A ruptured ectopic will almost certainly kill the fetus and cause the mother to go into shock when it doesnt wind up as, in very rare cases, a secondary abdominal pregnancy, which has sometimes led to a full term baby delivered via a laparotomy Eclampsia and preeclampsia are deadly conditions and can kill a mother through stroke or hemorrhage/heart attacks and sometimes if the mother goes into an eclamptic fit it can kill the fetus or at least push it past viability - sometimes there is no choice except to abort the child to save the mother's life, or try to keep it alive if it's past the point of viability and survives the whole thing A failed labor can cause death by maternal hemorrhage and death of the fetus if improperly handled (read: immediate caesarean) and in some events when the labor has progressed too far the fetus may have to be extracted from the mother after it dies [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342142]This "there's no genocide!" argument seems pretty popular this morning. You realize that he can do incredible damage to our country without lining people up and shooting them, right? Legislating the persecution and marginalization of minority groups doesn't have to have violence as its vehicle in order to be fucking horrifying.[/QUOTE] But put your faith in God Emperor Trump and he'll make America great like it should have been! :downs:
[QUOTE=1legmidget;51342134]Jumping straight to these sort of shock hypotheticals and cancer comparisons really doesn't help much. The fact of the matter is most zygotes never implant, and plenty of 'human lives' never make it past later stages of development. The chances go up as you make it past each benchmark, but early on things are far less certain. Human life from a numbers game as defined by people like wystan ends up being far, far less special than we would like to believe.[/QUOTE] The shock hypotheticals and cancer comparisons are the only response possible to something so blindly idiotic and insane as what apparently passes for "logic" in wystan's head. And on that note, rape is not a "shock hypothetical". Sadly it's one of the most common crimes in the world, because human beings are terrible, horrible, cruel creatures and [I]good god this is a depressing day.[/I]
[QUOTE=1legmidget;51342134]Jumping straight to these sort of shock hypotheticals and cancer comparisons really doesn't help much. The fact of the matter is most zygotes never implant, and plenty of 'human lives' never make it past later stages of development. The chances go up as you make it past each benchmark, but early on things are far less certain. Human life from a numbers game as defined by people like wystan ends up being far, far less special than we would like to believe.[/QUOTE] It's not a shock hypothetical, it's an actual thing that happens an astounding number of times. Come on.
[QUOTE=wystan;51342111]And how many of these must be treated by aborting the baby?[/QUOTE] Not overly familiar with the others, but ectopic pregnancy 100% requires an abortion, as it is impossible to carry to term and is often fatal if ignored. [quote]An ectopic pregnancy results when a fertilized egg implants outside the uterus. Unfortunately, there's no way to transplant an ectopic pregnancy into your uterus, so ending the pregnancy is the only option.[/quote] Under your definition of a "human life" this unviable clump of fatal cells has the same right to life as the mother. That seems appropriate to you?
Rape is definitely not "shock hypothetical" lol. It happens way too often for it to be considered a remote chance anymore. Rape isn't just violent encounters with strangers in back alleys. It's forced sex by someone who you thought you could trust. It's physical and emotional and domestic abuse behind closed doors between presumed happy married couples. It's someone taking advantage of you at a party of a friend. Rape is all too common and to discount it when talking about circumstances surrounding abortion is silly.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;51342089]People are going to call you out for "overreacting" and "fearmongering" but you're giving a completely realistic scenario I mean for fucks sake its been less than 12 hours and they've already promised to disenfranchise millions of people [IMG]https://68.media.tumblr.com/2eaa3832b589ea7bd23b0641a6491d23/tumblr_inline_ogdaewScN41r57afa_540.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Is there a reason why he's doing this? LGBT people having rights doesn't seem harmful. MAGA doesn't start with removing rights from people in my opinion.
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51342139]You give the Constitution too little credit. The Constitution was what protected equal rights and still is now.[/QUOTE] Has it? So where is the lgbt rights amendment?
[QUOTE=Pascall;51342164]Rape is definitely not "shock hypothetical" lol. It happens way too often for it to be considered a remote chance anymore. Rape isn't just violent encounters with strangers in back alleys. It's forced sex by someone who you thought you could trust. It's physical and emotional and domestic abuse behind closed doors between presumed happy married couples. It's someone taking advantage of you at a party of a friend. Rape is all too common and to discount it when talking about circumstances surrounding abortion is silly.[/QUOTE] yeah but being supportive of RAPE VICTIMS doesn't fit the agenda so ignoring them and pretending they don't exist works better than being a human being who isn't a huge shitter
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342155]Not overly familiar with the others, but ectopic pregnancy 100% requires an abortion, as it is impossible to carry to term. If ignored, it is often fatal to the mother. Under your definition of a "baby" this unviable clump of fatal cells has the same right to life as the mother. That seems appropriate to you?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51342148]A ruptured ectopic will almost certainly kill the fetus and cause the mother to go into shock when it doesnt wind up as, in very rare cases, a secondary abdominal pregnancy, which has sometimes led to a full term baby delivered via a laparotomy Eclampsia and preeclampsia are deadly conditions and can kill a mother through stroke or hemorrhage/heart attacks and sometimes if the mother goes into an eclamptic fit it can kill the fetus or at least push it past viability - sometimes there is no choice except to abort the child to save the mother's life, or try to keep it alive if it's past the point of viability and survives the whole thing A failed labor can cause death by maternal hemorrhage and death of the fetus if improperly handled (read: immediate caesarean) and in some events when the labor has progressed too far the fetus may have to be extracted from the mother after it dies [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] But put your faith in God Emperor Trump and he'll make America great like it should have been! :downs:[/QUOTE] From what it seems that in most of these situations the fetus is doomed regardless, so yes the logical move is to abort in case there is a chance to safe a least one life and it isn't a total loss. Do they ever ask mothers if they're willing to deliver the baby at the risk of their own life? That sounds like some bullshit in a movie but I'd like to know.
[QUOTE=Roger Waters;51342099]remember: cut down, not across.[/QUOTE] Now that's fucking edgy right there, friendo. Great post, nice meme.
[QUOTE=Domokun;51342168]Is there a reason why he's doing this? LGBT people having rights doesn't seem harmful. MAGA doesn't start with removing rights from people in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Because Pence is a disgusting, hateful goblin with zero desire to help anyone except religious zealots.
I'm so fucking irritated. I post today about how worried I am for the future and suddenly a plethora of people are yelling at everyone to chill out about the results, totally dismissing anyone's concerns, insisting shit's not gonna change. Like literally 4 of my Facebook friends just ganged up on my status to mock my concerns and condescendingly tell me that everything is going to be business as usual and that I'm overreacting. Fuck me for having the same concerns they all had yesterday, today, I guess.
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