• Donald Trump elected President of the United States - Deal with it, lmao
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[QUOTE=Lunakrypt;51342763]Man I guess I just wish I was as politically correct 24/7 since the beginning of my life as you. I have in the past said things I now regret. I apologize that I cannot live up to these standards.[/QUOTE] Are you saying it's an impossible ideal to not brag about sexually abusing women because of your fame, wealth and story? It's just gonna happen at some point? Couldn't you say exactly what you said about literally anything? [I]"Well excuse me for not being law abiding every day of my life, jesus christ dude, it was just one robbery"[/I]. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying his words were on the level of a robbery, but I am saying that it's ridiculous to claim that time should absolve you of responsibility. Especially since Trump [I]hasn't changed[/I].
[QUOTE=Lunakrypt;51342763]Man I guess I just wish I was as politically correct 24/7 since the beginning of my life as you. I have in the past said things I now regret. I apologize that I cannot live up to these standards.[/QUOTE] It's not about political correctness or not, some things should not be given the time of day or any justification at all politically in a civilized society that includes religious discrimination, xenophobia, homophobia, racism, and all those other unifying factors tacitly supported by the alt-right and religious right
[QUOTE=Lunakrypt;51342763]Man I guess I just wish I was as politically correct 24/7 since the beginning of my life as you. I have in the past said things I now regret. I apologize that I cannot live up to these standards.[/QUOTE] Since when is someone bragging about potential felonies an issue to be categorized under political correctness?
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51342776]When reading stuff like this I like to replace "Politically correct" with "Capable of showing people basic respect". It's hilarious how often it checks out in the original context.[/QUOTE] Man so many people who never said anything they regret.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342784]Oh, I see. Yeah, his comments regarding women were only one small square in a massive quilt of reasons not to vote for him. I don't think I've ever in my life been as personally, politically, and culturally repulsed by any one person more than I am by Donald Trump.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this, if you don't see why it's a bad idea to vote for trump - all the reasons are out there - you're either too lazy to research, simply dont care about the consequences, or voted him for your belief there was no better candidate.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342774]Yeah, I recognize that he was democratically elected, and I will respect the results of that election. However, I think we're going to fundamentally disagree on the subject of [I]why[/I] he won. Your claim that Democrats are authoritarian and regressive doesn't seem to be even remotely grounded in reality to me, especially when we're considering the fact that president elect himself is the one who has personally and officially promised to restrict 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 14th amendment rights. Democrats didn't lose election because we, as generalized entity, are authoritarian, regressive, and out of touch. We lost it because Hillary Clinton herself was an inherently dislikeable person with a massive closet of, at the very least, highly suspicious activity. Had Donald been face to face with [I]any[/I] other candidate, he would have been absolutely buried. This election was a battle between the two most unpopular candidates in electoral history. The "winner" is still a despised loser, he was just [I]slightly less[/I] of a despised loser.[/QUOTE] I wasn't speaking about the Democrats, I meant why people lost faith in the left in general. When it comes to the Democrats, I agree with you completely. I am glad he won simply because certain things about Hillary are so deplorable I'd rather that liberals struggle against Trump than have her in office, and because I hope it will force real change in the left.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342736]This isn't about Hillary. This isn't about Trump. This is about [B]your comment.[/B] Stop deflecting and address that, please. Your comment was explicitly comparing the allegations against Trump to the allegations against Hillary, and strongly implying that sexual assault doesn't matter. All you gotta do here is say, "I didn't mean to make that implication, and I can see how that's pretty fucked up. Obviously, sexual assault is very serious," and we can defuse this situation into something a bit more honest and civil.[/QUOTE] Well I guess I should thank you for proving my point. Focus on one thing, and ignore everything else. Thank you. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Lunakrypt;51342763]Man I guess I just wish I was as politically correct 24/7 since the beginning of my life as you. [B]I have in the past said things I now regret[/B]. I apologize that I cannot live up to these standards.[/QUOTE] Is your implication that sexual assault is A-okay one of those things? Cause, like, I'm still waiting for you to address the one actual point I've been trying to make here. Sexual assault is serious business, and defending it in any capacity is fucked. [editline]9th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Lunakrypt;51342809]Well I guess I should thank you for proving my point. Focus on one thing, and ignore everything else. Thank you.[/QUOTE] Okay, nevermind.
I saw a tweet early this morning pointing out the horrible irony that the first black president must hand the presidency over to someone endorsed by the KKK. The differences between Obama and Trump are stark, but what I find interesting is how there is an odd convergence between the “imagined” threat of Obama, and the “real” threat of Donald Trump. A brief summation of the conservative complaints levied at Obama: he is a demagogue, an authoritarian, the “great divider,” a racist, holds deeply un-American values, has allegiances to countries besides the United States, serves big business and corporate interests, and is a habitual liar. And who do these same people cast their vote for? I think you can probably see where I am going with this, but let us continue. ‘Lest we forget, in 2008, a major talking point about Obama was that he had no governing experience. These same people opted for the political outsider. Since his election, Obama has been trying to be “hip” and connect with the American people; as a result, he has taken on a celebrity-like status (singing on Jimmy Kimmel, having coffee with Jerry Seinfeld, selfie sticks and appearances on Buzzfeed). For such acts Obama was called a clown, and the same people who levied such an accusation just opted for a true celebrity, a reality TV star.
Say goodbye to net neutrality, guys.
[QUOTE=wewt!;51342808]I wasn't speaking about the Democrats, I meant why people lost faith in the left in general. When it comes to the Democrats, I agree with you completely.[/QUOTE] Ah, sorry for the mix-up then. I must have misunderstood you! I think I would still disagree with your assessment, of course. I don't believe that there is a significant problem with authoritarianism or regressive ideology among the left. Obviously we have a share of loons in the roost, but the oft-criticized "Tumblrina" mindset just isn't as prevalent in day-to-day life as is implied, and I'd wager that most of the American middle class, especially the Average Joe working class, have probably never personally encountered it beyond the rhetoric of conservative talk radio.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51342775]i can't speak for how serious duck m is being or what else he'd say if he was to expand on that, but it's pretty obvious that he was talking about age not views. i mean, it's an 11 word post, how on earth do you miss that?[/QUOTE] it was obvious that he was saying that most old ppl are republican voters i mean how do you miss that
I'm still surprised at just how much I underestimated the amount of Trump supporters that existed. Every bit of information I heard going into the election was that Trump was way behind in support compared to Hillary. This is going to be an election to look back to for a while with how fucked the stats can be for the predictions.
[QUOTE=1legmidget;51342793]Since when is someone bragging about potential felonies an issue to be categorized under political correctness?[/QUOTE] After re-listening to the original recording to confirm my observations i really think its a stretch to call anything he talked about there a potential felony. Maybe if you assume the absolute worst about "they let me" to mean an unconcious woman not stopping him, rather than the common tongue meaning of "they let me" being "agree to it". Unless you're really one of those people who is about to kiss someone, you both pucker and move closer, then you stop and request explicit consent. The comments he made were rude, disrespectful and make him sound like a complete twat. But, bragging about felonies this was never. As others said he doesnt seem to have changed either, but the entire framing of this issue always kinda rubbed me the wrong way.
[QUOTE=igamiwarr;51342854]it was obvious that he was saying that most old ppl are republican voters i mean how do you miss that[/QUOTE] it's obvious to people wanting to feed their victim complex, but anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills would consider the possibility that he meant younger people have to deal with political decisions for longer
[QUOTE=igamiwarr;51342854]it was obvious that he was saying that most old ppl are republican voters i mean how do you miss that[/QUOTE] Agreed, and statistically true. I obviously disagree with any notion that there should be an upper age limit on voting, because that is fundamentally undemocratic, but I can't help but be a bit bitter about the fact that my generation is overwhelmingly in agreement as to how best to guide our future, and that our perspective has been overridden by that of an aging populace with less personal stake in the outcome. Climate change, for example, is perhaps the single most important issue in the world right now, and it is [I]our[/I] generation, and our preceding generations, that will have to suffer the consequences of it. Not to be morbid, but the upper-middle class retirees who overwhelmingly vote Republican each election cycle no longer have a stake in that issue. They'll be ash and bone before the crisis becomes salient even to those who steadfastly refuse to acknowledge it now. Yet, our generation now must suffer at [I]least[/I] four more years of a president, and a federal government, that systematically denies it [I]even exists[/I], yet alone plans for how to best handle it.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342832]Ah, sorry for the mix-up then. I must have misunderstood you! I think I would still disagree with your assessment, of course. I don't believe that there is a significant problem with authoritarianism or regressive ideology among the left. Obviously we have a share of loons in the roost, but the oft-criticized "Tumblrina" mindset just isn't as prevalent in day-to-day life as is implied, and I'd wager that most of the American middle class, especially the Average Joe working class, have probably never personally encountered it beyond the rhetoric of conservative talk radio.[/QUOTE] I strongly disagree with this sentiment, as I've seen the regressive left slowly grow in my country as well and have been keeping track of the nonsense SJW's have been doing across the US. Just today I saw an old John Oliver episode where he made some very intellectually dishonest claims regarding racism and segregation in schools (he was conflating systemic racism with racism in general in order to prove the systemic side of it exists, allowing him to ignore the evidence to the contrary) (I have no idea how to reference it as it was an older rerun), then there's elements of black lives matter pushing for actual regressive policies such as race segregation in college campuses "to keep black students safe", gender and race quotas in companies regardless of actual competence, statements in the media such as "who cares about water on mars if Trump is gonna be president". The regressive left is a minority, but it is in the media, in college, and other positions of authority over the younger generation. Perhaps the turnout of this election will have a positive effect in the struggle to reform the liberal movement into something that isn't so detatched from reality. I understand you might not see it being so bad, but this is my personal view on the matter.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;51342765]Whoops. Got some names the wrong way around there. Probably should have proof read that. Mentally replace all occurrences of Nixon with Reagan whilst I go fix that![/QUOTE] It's okay bud it happens to all of us sometimes.
So can people stop calling him an orangutan now? I'm pretty sure you would get banned for calling Obama a monkey based on the color of his skin, what makes drumpf different.
[QUOTE=Sally;51342916]So can people stop calling him an orangutan now? I'm pretty sure you would get banned for calling Obama a monkey based on his skin, what makes drumpf different.[/QUOTE] Calling Obama a monkey is based on his race Calling Trump orange is based on him being orange and has nothing to do with race or anything Also he is an Orangutan so
[QUOTE=Sally;51342916]So can people stop calling him an orangutan now? I'm pretty sure you would get banned for calling Obama a monkey based on the color of his skin, what makes drumpf different.[/QUOTE] he wasn't born orange for one
[QUOTE=wewt!;51342905]I strongly disagree with this sentiment, as I've seen the regressive left slowly grow in my country as well and have been keeping track of the nonsense SJW's have been doing across the US. Just today I saw an old John Oliver episode where he made some very intellectually dishonest claims regarding racism and segregation in schools (he was conflating systemic racism with racism in general in order to prove the systemic side of it exists, allowing him to ignore the evidence to the contrary) (I have no idea how to reference it as it was an older rerun), then there's elements of black lives matter pushing for actual regressive policies such as race segregation in college campuses "to keep black students safe", gender and race quotas in companies regardless of actual competence, statements in the media such as "who cares about water on mars if Trump is gonna be president". The regressive left is a minority, but it is in the media, in college, and other positions of authority over the younger generation. [B]Perhaps the turnout of this election will have a positive effect in the struggle to reform the liberal movement[/B] into something that isn't so detatched from reality. I understand you might not see it being so bad, but this is my personal view on the matter.[/QUOTE] At the very least, I can agree with the bolded segment, and would say the same regarding conservatives. We all, as a nation, need to seriously reexamine the way we approach politics, reason, and tolerance. Our nation hasn't been so politically entrenched in living memory. We [I]have[/I] to reform under common ground, without sacrificing the heart of what our nation is supposed to represent.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51341913]Just like Brexit, our young voters were in overwhelming agreement: [img]http://i.imgur.com/DOblBQr.png[/img][/QUOTE] Is this real? Where is this from? Please be fake, I don't want to know that the result of the election was completely outside of the control of some of those most affected by it. Fuck. Even my state which was red by a 20% difference is fucking blue.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51342923]he wasn't born orange for one[/QUOTE] that's one you can keep onto, because I really don't get it.
[QUOTE=Sally;51342940]that's one you can keep onto, because I really don't get it.[/QUOTE] well the way racism works is that if it's not about race, it's not racism. i can further simplify it if you like
[QUOTE=MasterKade;51342931]Is this real? Where is this from? Please be fake, I don't want to know that the result of the election was completely outside of the control of some of those most affected by it. Fuck. Even my state which was red by a large margin is fucking blue.[/QUOTE] Dunno, it was just a tweet. For what it's worth, I can't verify it as fact, so it may be exaggerated or whatever. However, statistically speaking, it seems accurate at first glance. 60%+ of younger voters lean Democratic, which would result in an electoral map exactly like you're seeing if our demographic was the only one that voted.
[QUOTE=igamiwarr;51342768] And you made arguments that Trump was a facist huh...[/QUOTE] It was a joke my brother.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342946][QUOTE=MasterKade;51342931]Is this real? Where is this from? Please be fake, I don't want to know that the result of the election was completely outside of the control of some of those most affected by it. Fuck. Even my state which was red by a 20% difference is fucking blue.[/QUOTE]Dunno, it was just a tweet. For what it's worth, I can't verify it as fact, so it may be exaggerated or whatever. However, statistically speaking, it seems accurate at first glance. 60%+ of younger voters lean Democratic, which would result in an electoral map exactly like you're seeing if our demographic was the only one that voted.[/QUOTE] Source of the original picture is SurveyMonkey apparently.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51342925]At the very least, I can agree with the bolded segment, and would say the same regarding conservatives. We all, as a nation, need to seriously reexamine the way we approach politics, reason, and tolerance. Our nation hasn't been so politically entrenched in living memory. We [I]have[/I] to reform under common ground, without sacrificing the heart of what our nation is supposed to represent.[/QUOTE] Well then I think we both came to the most important conclusion, regardless of how we got to it.
[QUOTE=MasterKade;51342931]Is this real? Where is this from? Please be fake, I don't want to know that the result of the election was completely outside of the control of some of those most affected by it. Fuck. Even my state which was red by a 20% difference is fucking blue.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.surveymonkey.com/elections/map?poll=sm-lv-millennials-cps[/url] It's based on a Survey Money result which sampled 10,000 people before the election. Take it with a grain of salt, all surveys about Trump losing were wrong so this probably isn't very accurate either.
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