[QUOTE=Sparkwire;32256237]How is this not illegal?[/QUOTE]
It is.
So in the event that the planes were hijacked are the fighter jets just supposed to shoot it out of the sky?
How does jet escorts even help? They can't shoot down the plane or anything.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;32257749]So in the event that the planes were hijacked are the fighter jets just supposed to shoot it out of the sky?[/QUOTE]
Military aircraft do not fly completely unarmed. If the plane was hijacked and it looked like it was going to a city, I'm pretty sure the order would be given to shoot the aircraft down. Unless they contacted ATC and demanded shit, then yeah, they'd shoot it down. Before reaching the city.
It'll be clear who's flying (Actual pilots, or the terrorists) based on ATC coms, radar, and procedures being followed (Certain speeds under certain altitudes and within certain airspace) If the pilot's aren't flying it, then my guess is it's going to get shot down before reaching a populated area
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;32254282]So what did you expect the US government to do? Just ignore the threats? Nobody is afraid, and nobody is destabilized, the army just took some measures to prevent civilians dying. Better safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]
did you seriously just fucking say nobody is afraid
They should just do what I believe (Don't quote me on this) they do on Israeli passenger flights which is completely lock the cockpit off during flight so that even if there was a hijacker on board it would impossible for them to reach the cockpit.
[QUOTE=Dierag;32251890]If there were any terrorists they'd be acting normal and following the crowd, while some poor guy who's constipated causes fighter jets to escort planes :V[/QUOTE]
Imagine if a terrorist was on that plane though, o.O
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;32258224]They should just do what I believe (Don't quote me on this) they do on Israeli passenger flights which is completely lock the cockpit off during flight so that even if there was a hijacker on board it would impossible for them to reach the cockpit.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure locked cockpit is mandatory now.
[QUOTE=Rapist;32251914]It would be quite awesome to be in those planes though, seeing jets escorting you.[/QUOTE]
not really, it would really upset me knowing the gov't is taking interest in a specific plane. they can't possibly guard every plane, so something must be up.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;32258011]Military aircraft do not fly completely unarmed. If the plane was hijacked and it looked like it was going to a city, I'm pretty sure the order would be given to shoot the aircraft down. Unless they contacted ATC and demanded shit, then yeah, they'd shoot it down. Before reaching the city.
It'll be clear who's flying (Actual pilots, or the terrorists) based on ATC coms, radar, and procedures being followed (Certain speeds under certain altitudes and within certain airspace) If the pilot's aren't flying it, then my guess is it's going to get shot down before reaching a populated area[/QUOTE]
Actually the planes don't sit around with weapons on them. Not all the time at least, there was a interesting news story about how during 9/11 when the flights got high-jacked some fighter pilots didn't have time to arm with weapons, so they took off literally with no weapons. There orders where once they reached one of the planes that they where to take it down by crashing in to it. One pilot said she would take the tail, and the other guy said he would hit the cockpit. It was a interesting story nonetheless.
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/f-16-pilot-ready-ram-hijacked-plane-9-194138786.html[/url]
[QUOTE=OvB;32258845]Pretty sure locked cockpit is mandatory now.[/QUOTE]
Yep, and a lot of flight rules are added. I recently was flying and we where told to stay seated unless we need to use the restroom or something, they said no congregating in the walkway and all that too. No one is really to go near the cockpit let alone hang around it.
I read somewhere that one of the toilet incidents was some passengers having sex in the toilets. I'll find a source.
oh nevermind it was reported wrongly to begin with
[url=http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/passengers-on-detroit-bound-flight-cleared-on-mile-high-charges/story-e6frev20-1226135711258]source[/url]
[QUOTE=MR-X;32260788]Actually the planes don't sit around with weapons on them. Not all the time at least, there was a interesting news story about how during 9/11 when the flights got high-jacked some fighter pilots didn't have time to arm with weapons, so they took off literally with no weapons. There orders where once they reached one of the planes that they where to take it down by crashing in to it. One pilot said she would take the tail, and the other guy said he would hit the cockpit. [/QUOTE]
Are you really going to buy that?
[QUOTE=duno;32263698]Are you really going to buy that?[/QUOTE]
Germans did it in the final stages of WW2, they could take down bombers that way
[QUOTE=duno;32263698]Are you really going to buy that?[/QUOTE]
What part? The part about them not being armed or them wanting to crash into the plane? Because both make perfect sense. You don't want armed jets laying around, and I'm sure the pilots would be willing to make that kind of sacrifice to save lives. I mean, that's the whole point of enlisting, putting your life on the line to protect people.
9/11 taught me that, when faced with a hostage situation or terrorist attack, everyone should bum rush the shit out of any asshole jihadist pointing weapons at them.
The point of terrorism is to incite fear. If we get to the point where we need two f-16s escorting every jumbo jet that gets into the air then they've already won.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32264064]9/11 taught me that, when faced with a hostage situation or terrorist attack, everyone should bum rush the shit out of any asshole jihadist pointing weapons at them.[/QUOTE]
This could be possible if all of the hostages were somekind of a fearless hivemind.
But they are just normal people.
It would [b]really[/b] suck shit to have to be the Pilot that has to shoot down a passenger jet if it was ever needed. (pls no)
[QUOTE=Tigster;32264055]What part? The part about them not being armed or them wanting to crash into the plane? Because both make perfect sense. You don't want armed jets laying around, and I'm sure the pilots would be willing to make that kind of sacrifice to save lives. I mean, that's the whole point of enlisting, putting your life on the line to protect people.[/QUOTE]
ejector seats. the pilots dont have to die to take out the plane.
[QUOTE=shian;32251700]
Oh, you had to shat for 3 long times on the plane, you must be a terrorist![/QUOTE]
Dear dear! When will you learn, shat is the [b]past[/b] tense of shit.
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