• New £5 note to feature Winston Churchill
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[QUOTE=Kentz;40431553]Winston Churchill was a warmongering, german hating, fat piece of shit.[/QUOTE] Also, I'm pretty sure most people hated Germans around that time.
[QUOTE=Kentz;40431800](Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War)[/QUOTE] Ah yes that book written by the horrible Pat Buchanan. I should totally take that to heart. Seriously Buchanan is, at best, a moron
all about the churchills wait what if it was Jack Churchill on the bill instead of Winston
[QUOTE=Kentz;40431553]Winston Churchill was a warmongering, german hating, fat piece of shit.[/QUOTE] Eh, Bismark was opressive against Poles, yet he is the most fucking badass politician in the XIX century.
[QUOTE=Kentz;40431553]Winston Churchill was a warmongering, german hating, fat piece of shit.[/QUOTE] I prefer Oliver Cromwell over that wrinkled old man.
[QUOTE=Kentz;40431553]Winston Churchill was a warmongering, german hating, fat piece of shit.[/QUOTE] Fuck now my mouse and keyboard have blood all over them. I hope you're happy.
[QUOTE=tr00per7;40432101]I prefer Oliver Cromwell over that wrinkled old man.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the guy who literally murdered a quarter of the population of Ireland at the time, I really want to see him on every fiver.
[QUOTE=Rents;40432180]Yeah, the guy who literally murdered a quarter of the population of Ireland at the time, I really want to see him on every fiver.[/QUOTE] but muh commonwealth
i don't want this man's face on my money. he was a racist, egotistical, misogynist shit. a low-life career politician. he may have had rousing speeches throughout the second world war but he also sent hundreds of thousands to their death in gallipoli in what was one of the most embarrassing defeats in the entire history of this country
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40432225]i don't want this man's face on my money. he was a racist, egotistical, misogynist shit. a low-life career politician. he may have had rousing speeches throughout the second world war but he also sent hundreds of thousands to their death in gallipoli in what was one of the most embarrassing defeats in the entire history of this country[/QUOTE] Yet it was by his own personal intervention that allowed the concept of the tank to be introduced, which helped break the stalemate of trench warfare and save countless lives.
[QUOTE=Rents;40432180]Yeah, the guy who literally murdered a quarter of the population of Ireland at the time, I really want to see him on every fiver.[/QUOTE] yeah but he gave us Parliament and the New model army. Why you always got to focus on the negatives!
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;40431535][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Fry]Elizabeth Fry[/url], she's kinda great.[/QUOTE] I was wondering who that lady was on the fiver; turns out she did a lot in making British prisons more humane. Not so sure about her choice of hat though. Still, ol' Winnie on the fiver will be pretty cool even if Lizzie Fry stops hanging out with Lizzie Windsor.
[QUOTE=tr00per7;40432101]I prefer Oliver Cromwell over that wrinkled old man.[/QUOTE] Cromwell [I]literally[/I] banned christmas. And slaughtered the irish, that was bad too.
[QUOTE=Kentz;40431800][I]Seven Cabinet members were ready to resign rather than go to war. "The Cabinet was absolutely against war and would never have agreed to being committed to war at this moment," wrote Churchill. Those favoring Britain's going to war, should it come, were Grey and Churchill, who had made commitments to France. But only the First Lord relished the prospect. On July 25, when it appeared that Grey's call for a conference of ambassadors to halt the slide to war might succeed, Churchill “exclaimed moodily that it looked after all as we were in for a 'bloody peace.'" "Churchill was the only Minister to feel any sense of exultation at the course of events," writes biographer John Charmley.[17] On July 28, he had written his wife Clementine: “My darling one & beautiful: Everything tends toward catastrophe & collapse. I am interested, geared up and happy. Is it not horrible to be built like that?”[/I] (Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War)[/QUOTE] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Greater_Germanic_Reich.png[/img] Germany a threat England? [b]Never[/b]
"I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat" on money seems quite apt.
We would have gone to war anyway considering they [I]fucking invaded[/I]
Please put this on it: [IMG]http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/53/5323/1R3YG00Z/plakater/winston-churchill-with-tommy-gun.jpg[/IMG]
Oh yeah, Darwin on one note, Winston on the other :D
I think it'd be appropriate to have his ancestor John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, on the other side. He too helped save Europe from collapsing under foreign rule, in this case the Bourbon monarchy. [img]http://www.stepneyrobarts.co.uk/pictures/131273_1_john_churchill.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40432225]i don't want this man's face on my money. he was a racist, egotistical, misogynist shit. a low-life career politician. he may have had rousing speeches throughout the second world war but he also sent hundreds of thousands to their death in gallipoli in what was one of the most embarrassing defeats in the entire history of this country[/QUOTE] It's not just your money. Anyway at least Churchill had good grammar skills.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40432528][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Greater_Germanic_Reich.png[/img] Germany a threat England? [b]Never[/b][/QUOTE] except that quote was said prior to WWI
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40432225]i don't want this man's face on my money. he was a racist, egotistical, misogynist shit. a low-life career politician. he may have had rousing speeches throughout the second world war but he also sent hundreds of thousands to their death in gallipoli in what was one of the most embarrassing defeats in the entire history of this country[/QUOTE] How did we have an embarrassing defeat when we won? How was he racist? He attacked Germany because of a treaty between the UK and Poland that the UK would intervene if Germany invaded. Everyone back then hated the Germans because of Hitler which I agree is unfair but justified.
[QUOTE=007JamesBond007;40433406]How did we have an embarrassing defeat when we won?[/QUOTE] Did you fail history? Gallipoli was a disastrous failed campaign to open a route to Russia, in which the Ottomans spent a few months slaughtering Allied troops on dusty beaches before they left.
[QUOTE=brainmaster;40431588]And a racist! Still got Britain through the war though.[/QUOTE] It's funny because I hear Woodrow Wilson was also Racist. Even so he warned against Versailles Treaty, also somehow the 19th Amendment was passed under him. And Federal Reserve Act.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40432225]i don't want this man's face on my money. he was a racist, egotistical, misogynist shit. a low-life career politician. he may have had rousing speeches throughout the second world war but he also sent hundreds of thousands to their death in gallipoli in what was one of the most embarrassing defeats in the entire history of this country[/QUOTE] It was also him that sent the police to brutally beat women suffragettes during a march. He also wanted to go to war against the Soviet Union straight after defeating the Germans. People can talk about how he got Britain through the war, it wasnt him, it was the countless brave young men who put their lives on the line for their country. The only thing he was good at was writing speeches.
[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;40433615]It was also him that sent the police to brutally beat women suffragettes during a march. He also wanted to go to war against the Soviet Union straight after defeating the Germans. People can talk about how he got Britain through the war, it wasnt him, it was the countless brave young men who put their lives on the line for their country. The only thing he was good at was writing speeches.[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised what effective Propaganda can do.
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;40433684]You'd be surprised what effective Propaganda can do.[/QUOTE] Of course, its why hes so popular today.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;40433451]Did you fail history? Gallipoli was a disastrous failed campaign to open a route to Russia, in which the Ottomans spent a few months slaughtering Allied troops on dusty beaches before they left.[/QUOTE] I meant the war in general, not the individual battles.
[QUOTE=007JamesBond007;40434514]I meant the war in general, not the individual battles.[/QUOTE] Then your post is just as wrong because Chesty was only calling Gallipoli an embarrassing defeat for the nation. And it very much was. [QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;40433701]Of course, its why hes so popular today.[/QUOTE] That propaganda is, arguably of course, a very large factor in British resilience in the face of certain loss after the Fall of France and before the US decided to help win the war. Honestly I don't like the Old Lion much myself, but those edgy as fuck posts always tick me off.
Churchill was a damn good speech writer with a sharp wit, and little else. We don't need to worship him, but we should respect the absolutely [B]huge [/B] positive effect he had on British morale in World War II. They cycle these things every couple decades or so anyway, I think he at least deserves one cycle.
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